It's pretty wild that in 2024, burning multisession DVDs is equally as arcane as trying to use floppy disks.
Both are drives that no longer are built into any new hardware and require an external USB drive to read, which makes using them an act of contrarianism.
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Things like AV1/AVIF/Opus makes sharing things over the internet pretty snappy over wifi-direct and to some extent even bluetooth. I can see people falling back on DVDs/CDs if they're still using baseline H264/JPG/MP3 on their 2500K shitbox that refuses to die though.
I'm glad optical media was an absolute nightmare when it came to reliability. One scratch and the things was fricking junk.
I'm glad optical media is dying*
Now if only these wienerSUCKERS would release 4K movies on read-only SD cards.
You'll rent it from a streaming service. This is what you get for letting go of physical media.
>4K movies on read-only SD cards.
>Black personcattles all over the net and social media engage in microsd slot shaming behavior
It's not coming, anon. All because you chose to be a cloudhomosexual.
>H264/JPG/MP3
lettuce be real, with how storage size has progressed, it's not too bad to still use these
>it's okay to use dogshit obsolete algorithms cause duhhh I have space for it anyway
everything wrong with modern computing in one homosexual
how are they dogshit? mp3 is the only one that I'll agree on because aac is much better in every way.
4k AVIF under 100KB
https://files.catbox.moe/ycknht.avif
Double check it also observe how the image isn't a blocky mess like it is with JPEG. Ultimately this means that something like AVIF is like 90% more efficient than JPEG especially with non-photographic stuff (ie anime).
the difference between those codecs is like 30% at most
it's fricking nothing you moron
DVDs from the 90s with 480i video look better than 4K video on YouTube with the abysmal bitrate they use.
normies dictate everything
Don't care, still burn music cds on the regular.
It is embarrassing to not be able to read and/or write them. If you cannot do it, you live under a rock.
That's my opinion.
see
nobody fricking liked optical media from a convenience standpoint.
its cool that it uses scifi lasers and light to record data and read it back but it just fricking sucked otherwise.
this is not wild.
optical stopped being worthwhile when even the smallest, most space saving HEVC anime encodes ballooned to 4GB for 12 episodes.
My anime collection is 2TB, I would need like 500 DVDs to hold all of it, that's still 85 BDs.
I can hardly fathom how 4.7GB was ever enough.
because 480i xvid episodes used to be 50mb
this was the era of internet I was introduced to, the early 00s were super comfy
>Flash garbage all over the page, often bringing your browser to a near-halt if you tried scrolling on the page
>popups everywhere, browsers could barely keep up
>OHMYGOD, NO WAY
>if you went on the wrong site, a Java exploit in one of the ads would frick your computer
>no adblock yet to prevent all of this
>actually had to work to pirate music, never knew when you'd get Bill Clinton'd as opposed to now where you can get okay quality rips from YouTube
>people going to prison or being charged millions of dollars for pirating crap from Limewire because RIAA still thought making examples out of people was a good idea
Maybe I was just too young at the time and didn't get it
Those parts sucked but the good parts were good, tools, serials, cracks, all on the wild west of the clearnet, same with drug forums/markets, dangerous information out in the open for anyone and everyone to learn, dangerous information like the do/k/ument that teaches how to make kabooms, aks out of shovels, or fun switches with paperclips. Now it's all filtered, consolidated, monetized, and stripped.
Is there still a clearnet for RCs? The last time I attempted I got scammed.
The last private RC forum I had access to got shut down about 4 years ago, the kids still dumb enough to operate on clearnet now do it through social media. Everyone else is too paranoid to operate on the internet anymore, whether it's darknet or clearnet
tranime averages 2-7fps and is mostly simple pastel colors.
Not to mention it leaves the studio at 720p. You should be looking at a 4gb encode and think, damn the chimpanzee moron that encoded this really just hit default settings and ran with it.
That's the real difference between today and the stone ages 20 years ago. We released stuff on irc and every encode was done with care, WITH the dogshit codecs we had back then.
homosexual zoomer.
True. But do we really need anime to be as large as it is?
I still get 720 or even 480, and it's.... so fricking comfy, idk.
>so fricking comfy
any suggestions, comfy bro?
I'll do my besto. What genre do you like fren?
Anything realistic. Like, no crying because the boy at school didn't like you back, and that's the focus on the episode. No magic. No yelling. Sophisticated dialogue would be cool
>Kakegurui - drama, a gambling anime with highly sophisticated strategy in its games
>LOTGH - legendary space opera sci-fi
>Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai - hilarious romance
All of those fit the bill.
Cheers, not even ChatGPT 4o could do that
Cheers anon, nice digits.
That one always held me off, but don't try to deny that the animation-style is trash... so I avoided it. However it's got a pretty high rating, so i'll give it a shot one day.
pic related, non-shit animation and glorious smug of Kagegurui.
Won't deny that FKMT's artstyle is a bit of an acquired taste, but it defo pays off in making despair feel real (picrel). I'd even argue anime adaptations of his work don't fully capture the essence of his style. I actually really like Kakegurui's character's design-wise, it's just that the gambles are awful
Try Liar Game, similar to both but it's a manga. The strategy is crazy good.
It's actually already on my backlog, but thanks for reminding me
>Kakegurui
Easy, a lot of drawing relies on drawing the illussion of detail rather than actually drawing detal. This means that the higher the resolution, the easier it is to tell it's a mere trick, notice how sometimes people go
>ohhh, that's just an unnamed background character, of course they're not gonna draw it with the same care they do the main cast in the foreground, you only noticed because you zoomed in
?
They're half right, it's silly to expect a high level of detail from background shit, but you don't need to pause or zoom in, shit like that is very noticeable in higher resolutions. Solution is watching in 480p or below, all those squiggles blend in and the illussion actually work
>They're half right, it's silly to expect a high level of detail from background shit, but you don't need to pause or zoom in, shit like that is very noticeable in higher resolutions. Solution is watching in 480p or below, all those squiggles blend in and the illussion actually work
This anon gets it.
>multisession
autism
Closest behavior to a rewritable floppy disk, it just hides obsolete versions of files so your disc still fills up as you edit files, the filesystem hides them though.
>Both are drives that no longer are built into any new hardware
They are not included in the mini atx/itx shitters from china you're thinking of. Ask me how I know you don't use a computer for work
>and require an external USB drive to read, which makes using them an act of contrarianism.
You need a lesson on memory volatility. It's one thing if you don't do anything important on the computer and therefore don't have data worth a piss to preserve. In that case don't get ECC RAM or a quadro. Buy an overpriced amd shitter gpu and make sure to use nothing but SSD's. Especially nvme's, specifically with no dram cache. Make sure to put your OS on one of those. Make sure to copy your important files to a usb external flash drive, or be a data cuck and get a cloud service for Rajeed to hack and obtain your info from.
If there was a modern, good layout ITX case with 5.25" drive I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
Why not use ATX? I have a Fractal Design Focus G with two 5.25 bays.
come on
was burning DVDs ever really popular? I can't imagine it. CDs sure you burned CDs for your portable CD players
You already download the movie, why are you gonna burn a DVD of it? No way, you would just play it. Seems like you guys are just making that up I doubt everyone was burning DVDs
>was burning DVDs ever really popular?
CD's yes. It was so popular that companies like Sony had to put DRM in their players that would detect burned disks. It was especially big in countries that these companies didn't give a frick about and wouldn't sell to.
>I can't imagine it. CDs sure you burned CDs for your portable CD players
Cars anon. They even put cassette players in them.
the main reasons I did back in the day was because it was the easiest way to display downloaded movies onto a tv, doing that isn't as easy as it is today
yeah pirated dvds were huge in the early 2000's zoom zoom
Nice troll post, have a u
pirated dvds sold on the street
general back ups
storage wasn't as advanced so you couldn't store just store 30 movies indefinitely on your computer to watch whenever you want, if they were at a good quality.
dvds sold on the street
What a time to be alive lol
those same vendors now sell pirated flash drives and microSD cards full of entire discographies and best of playlists
>was burning DVDs ever really popular
Yes it was, at least around here. Where the frick would you archive your shit? And backups?
HDDs were expensive. DVDs were cheap.
DVDs were not just for movies. Same with CDs.
And how would you share games, anime and other shit with your buds? It was all DVDs. The USB drive was not common yet, or was too small. My first pen drive was 64MB, when a DVD had almost 5 GB.
>floppy disks
>arcane
What's arcane about a floppy? It was so simple to operate. Much simpler than optical media.
Most people didn't have laptops in the early 2000s that they could bring down to their living room, and even if they did it was unlikely they would have analog video output for the TV's of the time, so burning a DVD was the only way you could watch pirated movies in your living room. Also, if you rented movies on Netflix to copy them, you're not going to store 9gb movies on the maybe 100gb hard drive you have, you're going to burn it to a disc and delete it to free up space for other things.
optical media is still king when it comes to quality, too bad they don't make them any more so I can download the remux
I still burn DVD's when I'm messing around with different operating systems because I only have a few flash drives and don't like waiting around for Rufus to do its thing when I need to install multiple operating systems quickly.
>require an external USB drive to read
You can still add DVD drives to computers you're building, unless you got some really specialized gamer case that throws out everything in favor of having more spots for fans. You are building your own PC's, right anon?
Try Ventoy
>which makes using them an act of contrarianism.
don't care, still using them
Who let you out of your retirement home, grandpa?
If you can't collect enough files to fill the disc then simply burn the same file to the disc many times, that way you'll have potential redundancy if the disc is partially damaged. At least one of the copies will be readable, assuming the files aren't too large. Copy your files and clone them inside a ramdrive (before burning to optical, using osfmount) to avoid putting writes on non-volatile storage.
dvdisaster, homie
I still burn DVD iso and watch them on my upscaler. Idc
>burning multisession DVDs
128GB flash drive is $10
I still burn DVDs when I need cold storage, I may not check the files for years and neither magnetic or flash last that long unpowered
>Multisession
Yeah, this is autism, agreed
i still burn cd-rs for small files such as ebooks
in case libgen and zlibrary shutdown
i also burn them in case i have no internet(which has happened a few times before). it's nice to have data when you don't have internet
having a spindle full of data i didn't even notice that my internet was out for a week
why use cds for that purpose instead of just copying to a hard drive or usb stick? Is it the novelty? I have an old stack of 700mb discs with nothing on them, but I can hardly imagine using them for anything nowadays
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i have a laptop so i would have to use an external hdd and external hdds aren't durable. That's why i don't use them
That's old technology for you.
If you own a computer with a DVD drive, you have autism. It's an absolutely flawless way to diagnose the condition. If you don't have your official diagnosis yet, just visit a doctor and say "Multisession DVDs", and you'll be officially registered as disabled. Imagine how many blank DVDs you can buy with your NEETbux.
Autism is when you insist that everybody does as you say. It is the lack of compassion for others, the lack of being able to see the world out of the eyes of others. Read: You have autism, you absolutely NEED us to adapt to your ways. You NEED us to get rid of the DVD drives, or else!!1
very autistic post
Even if there are autistic DVD users, so fricking what?
How is using something that has longer lifespan than shelved flash memory deemed autism?
You're not projecting, right?
Depends on type of flash, wear level, and most importantly storage temperature. Most people have no idea that SSDs will last decades powered off in refrigeration temperatures.
i use optical discs because it's the cheapest and most durable storage option. i can get 50 bd-rs for like 20 dollars
external 1TB hdds are cheap but they aren't durable. that's the problem
i always end up breaking them by accident. i remember taking one with me while traveling and i fricking dropped it on the ground by accident and it wouldn't work after that
i don't want storage that isn't drop proof
>i don't want storage that isn't drop proof
great minds think alike
theres also the fact that if you dont use and sdd long enough you may lose the data.
almost could have become a problem with some pretty important shit
but
everything is backed up on dvds anyways
its just that it would have been a hassle to transfer everything into a new drive (~120 DVDs. the downside of that method)
>50 bd-rs for like 20 dollars
Interesting. I didn't know they were that cheap.
And how much data does each take?
If I find BDXLs at a garage sale or estate sale I'll start archiving important data/media. 100gb/128gb disks are close to $10ea on amazon
a 1tb ssd is $30
price wise physical media makes no sense
also burning a 100gb bd takes eons.
A disk will last as long as I live while an SSD will not. I mainly want to archive the files I've had hoarded for 20 years and not worry about them ever again.
>A disk will last as long as I live
>unless moisture hits it
>unless uv light hits it
>unless you bump it
>unless you scratch it
>unless the ink on the unwritten side degrades
>unless you're a dumb zoomer baby that didn't grow up with optical media
I would put them in a cd binder and forget about them until I'm an old man. You're pretty passionate about this subject
cd binders scratch discs
i would recommend labeling them and leaving them on the spindle that the discs came with.
the discs being stacked on the spindle gives them extra protection.
ask anyone that was alive in the 90s if they have a cd binder full of old games that are all unplayable lmao. especially gamecube games would just rot on you like nothing else
cds left in a car turn to mush fast, let's add heat exposure to the list too
>DURR ITS NOT THE LIGHT THAT DESTROYS THEM
It is. optical media is written with light and they are degraded by light dipshit. that's why they're called optical
in the early 2000s, i would leave my cds out in the hot car while i was at work and nothing happened to them. They still worked
based on personal anecdotes i know you are full of shit
>single anecdote to disprove stastical reasoning
stupid redditor
none of this shit is true.
i have cleaned discs with water and they still work
>unless you bump it
um no, you can bump discs and nothing will happen to them. you are thinking of external hdds
>unless uv light hits it
in the long term yeah but if you put a dvd out in the sun for like 5 minutes nothing will happen to it because it hasn't been out in the sun long enough
it's the heat from the uv light that destroys the disc not the uv light itself
>If I find BDXLs at a garage sale or estate sale
good luck with that
>burning multisession DVDs
USB drives are simply more convenient in almost every way
The only downside is cost if you want to distribute physical media (if you want to mail software on physical media to 100 people for example). Optical still wins for that
But for something personal you keep using to store and transfer data between devices, flash drives are just more practical in general (you can even plug them in tiny devices)
I only ever use discs anymore for movies and they immediately get ripped, compressed a bit with x264, and then placed onto my NAS to be streamed over Plex.
counter argument:
I saw some dedicated cd/dvd burners at goodwill for like 10 bucks a pop
I still use my stockpile of CDs/DVDs to burn install media or to copy old photos. Medical institutions also use them regularly.
>Both are drives that no longer are built into any new hardware and require an external USB drive to read, which makes using them an act of contrarianism.
I don't buy "new hardware" I built a PC which has an optical drive so if I need one I can use it. I'm not really concerned with what the unwashed masses are doing or buying because I don't use those products
Just buy RW.
>which makes using them an act of contrarianism.
I just like playing around with old hardware.
put a cd server on your fricking network
not every computer needs a cd drive
what next,
cd drive in my alarm clock?
cd drive in my microwave?
cd drive in my bathtub?
frick you
>cd drive in my alarm clock?
I miss the 00s
m-discs are a thing
>burning multisession DVDs is autism
do people really burn once and close the disc?
what a waste
>Both are drives that no longer are built into any new hardware
They aren't? DVD and BD drives still exist. Now they're even affordable, being just $60.