>check out some of those: >linux is cool and all, but >i need my photoshop so i can't switch >i really really really want to switch but i need the photoshop
every time
you clearly never used gimp, the gui is awful, it has less options than photoshop or krita, gimp should be trashed for being garbage and never mentioned again, krita need better development
The best thing is that most of those morons use Photoshop once in a blue moon, and they probably use it for very simple purposes that could easily be replicated with something like GIMP, Photopea or whatever the frick.
Pretty much every Adobe suite product has a FOSS alternative that is going to be decent enough for amateurs.
the desktop OS is dying and this is just one of the symptoms.
people fed up with windows being an advertising platform, macos becoming a walled prison, and linux gives misguided ones hope until they realize you'll sink months into tinkering getting basic shit done
are you 15 years old? copilot is a tool that can be turned off or cut out, just like defender or windows update, this is windows, not linux, it's piss easy to get rid of different parts of the system
>turned off
This is how it starts. In 2 years, you'll have to do it from control panel. Another 2 years? Registry edit. Another 5 years? It's perfectly normal, why would you want to turn it off?
also >linux cant get rid of its parts
http://tinycorelinux.net/
linuxgays are embarrasing, you can turn off windows options forever for little to no effort, I been doing this for years since windows 10 release, unlike linux windows has tools for that
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>unlike linux, windows has tools for that
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
5 days ago
Anonymous
yes, with windows you get the tools short after a new build release, click to disable, restart and done, with linux you must search google for hours
>They had gone so far as to add spyware to a personal computer >'Dude they allow you to turn it off, I trust them and believe you can, its all local anyways'
Because >Windows 10 will reach end of life in about a year and will (supposedly) fine people to keep using it after end of life >nobody likes Windows 11 >Windows 12 is probably gonna be worse than Windows 11
So now everyone is looking for alternatives.
there's a subset of """content creators""" who make a living from ragebaiting about new technology. You saw it with the metaverse stuff, the apple glasses thing, etc. Now the target is windows so now they are having a linux shilling trend.
There's a certain type of linux evangelist who does not really use linux or maybe tried it on a live image sometime, but who invokes the name "linux" to try to look like a knowledgeable hackerman.
>linux isn't good it isn't able to be used as a windows alternative it has no software and its devs are useless neckbeards and trannies living with their moms >also they somehow have enough money and resources to make a coordinated effort to get everyone to switch via some secret conspiracy where they are paying yters to promote it
this thread screams "immigrants come here to leech off welfare but also somehow took all of our jobs despite being lazy welfare queens."
>Microsoft is shitting the bed with Windows again >Linuxgays commence the usual circlejerk >le Windows bad le Linux good >Year of the Linux Desktop™ for sure this time >JewTubers get on the grift for easy views and money
Same shit happened back in 2015 when Windows 10 released, everyone called it "muh ebil spyware", and everyone still moved to 10, because much like today, no matter how shit Windows is getting, Linux isn't getting any better, as Linuxgays are some of the most delusional beings that walk this earth.
No it didn't. Elon's been pretty damn clear about the fact that he hates Linux and normies hate Elon now. This makes no sense from both a linux and a microsoft fan's view.
Neither side would want to be associated with that.
The more people that use Linux, the more software will be released to run natively with Linux. Also as people move away from Windows or Mac, the hope is that they will try to be less shitty.
>The more people that use Linux
That's essentially begging the question, the question being WILL more people use Linux. With no apps and its well earned reputation for being shitty, there's no reason for the vast majority of people even to consider Linux when they're perfectly happy with macOS or Windows 11.
Bro the amount of normies I see rocking steam decks is kinda pushing them to try it.
I'm in a group chat where four of them keep sharing "apps" (their words, not mine) they find on discover that they like.
Most people use Linux on their phones or consoles, and Windows11 has terrible rep too. Nobody likes Apple outside USA as well. Reputation doesn't matter really. To become truly mainstream it needs some luck, marketing and way less terminal, but most importantly not break that easily. Average Joe needs to be able to fix shit with a click or two.
Japan was gobbling Apple's dick for a while but then they released that ad and now the country has a hate boner for it.
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Anonymous
Which ad? The VR shit?
5 days ago
Anonymous
"Crush", supposedly it's especially tone deaf to the Japanese culture. something about the spirit of the tools which have served you, this portrayal comes off as disrespectful. or so I've heard. see for yourself:
>Nobody likes Apple outside USA as well.
$3.3T valuation
nobody likes them
You're like fricking Yogi Berra. "Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded."
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Anonymous
Yeah American market is strong and they are successful, nobody claimed otherwise. It has disgusting reputation and that's a fact.
5 days ago
Anonymous
>It has disgusting reputation
on 4chins, which of course is totally representative of the world
5 days ago
Anonymous
Or entire EU after the whole charge port debacle
5 days ago
Anonymous
What charge port debacle?
5 days ago
Anonymous
They fought EU and lost. Made a lame threat to leave EU market before bending over.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-66708571.amp
5 days ago
Anonymous
1. they didn't fight the eu
2. they certainly didn't fight it and lose
3. lightning was always promised to be a 10-year technology, and after 10 years guess what?
5 days ago
Anonymous
>They didn't fight it and lose
Hahahahaha
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/23/apple-opposes-eu-plans-to-make-common-charger-port-for-all-devices
5 days ago
Anonymous
That number will start dropping soon. They waited too long to leave China. They are already buying back their stock.
5 days ago
Anonymous
The only countres that view them as status symbols are india and the US. Most other countries use android.
>The more people that use Linux
For Year of the Linux Desktop™ to truly materialize, Linux will have to become Windows, full stop. You can't have it both ways, either it's as braindead "just werks" for normies as Windows is or it's this esoteric OS for neckbeards that have too much free time on their hands. If you expect a normie to jump to your level of knowledge of an OS just to stick it to Microsoft you're delusional beyond help. Your typical normie doesn't even know how to install Windows even though it's a braindead process.
Bro the amount of normies I see rocking steam decks is kinda pushing them to try it.
I'm in a group chat where four of them keep sharing "apps" (their words, not mine) they find on discover that they like.
>steam decks
Most people use Linux on their phones or consoles, and Windows11 has terrible rep too. Nobody likes Apple outside USA as well. Reputation doesn't matter really. To become truly mainstream it needs some luck, marketing and way less terminal, but most importantly not break that easily. Average Joe needs to be able to fix shit with a click or two.
>Most people use Linux on their phones or consoles
Just because something uses Linux as the kernel doesn't mean it's the same fricking thing, how can you make such moronic statements with a straight face. Linux Desktop sucks dick, period. It's a clusterfrick that's never gonna get better. Android and console systems are not Linux, they have their own abstraction layers where normies don't even need to know what's going on under the hood. SteamOS is the biggest Linux cope of the decade, the only reason it's a success is because it's a distro developed and maintained by Valve for their custom hardware only. The moment you try to turn it into a """Windows killer""" it becomes yet another distro with all the same issues.
Linux community is the reason why Windows will hold market dominance, seethe
5 days ago
Anonymous
Literally schizo if you believe community ever influenced anything. Most moronic post in this thread by far, congrats.
5 days ago
Anonymous
>Literally schizo
You mean how every single thing that holds desktop Linux back is a grand conspiracy of all the large corporations and not the incompetency of Linux devs? Yeah Linux users are mentally ill, I agree.
5 days ago
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What holds it back?
5 days ago
Anonymous
Something seems to be holding it back if it hasn't broke through 10% of global use since three decades and a .5% increase is a massive celebration.
5 days ago
Anonymous
Sure, but what?
5 days ago
Anonymous
I don't know, it's a perfect OS that does everything Windows does, if not better as it respects the user's freedoms. Must be some greater conspiracy of Microsoft and Red Hat and Poettering.
5 days ago
Anonymous
So you know nothing about it? What are you here?
5 days ago
Anonymous
>What are you here?
ESL Black person, opinion discarded
5 days ago
Anonymous
>Never heard of autocorrect
Explains why you know nothing
5 days ago
Anonymous
If Linux users can have strong opinions about Windows without knowing the first thing about it then so can I about Linux, I don't see the issue
5 days ago
Anonymous
This thread is literally about Linux, are you ok anon?
5 days ago
Anonymous
>without knowing the first thing about it
Everyone knows how to use Windows.
5 days ago
Anonymous
Linux users don't even know Windows has a terminal and a package manager, let alone how the rest of the OS works but run their mouth the loudest about it
5 days ago
Anonymous
>Windows has a terminal
That sucks. >and a package manager,
That sucks
Windows became obsolete after Proton, now that it decided to become the largest spyware everyone is switching to Linux, it's really not complicated. The only people staying with Windows are those too stupid to learn Linux, and dozens of people that work with Photoshop or Autocad.
To be fair OP's point is about the new influx of youtubers that are against windows 11 spyware and switching to Linux. I noticed them since I switched to Linux recently (dual boot with Windows). They have been quite useful for me.
I don't watch goytube outside of specific tutorials. Adult men do not care about "opinions" and "recommendations"
You live in your mothers basement and have never had to make informed purchasing decisions of high value equipment,
That's exactly what he's talking about innit, if you want information you go to actual technical review sites not youtuber entertainers.
You probably think le macgay laptop counts as high value equipment.
t. Buying equipment for gym in MY basement.
That's what high value means doesn't it? I doubt a bunch of bar bells costs more than a Mac even if they're more useful and are a better use of money
A machine costs less than a macbook?
You wouldn't even know about this if you weren't a child addicted to youtube feeds.
>lately
idk I use windows 7 but I like to shill loonix mint and xfce
>check out some of those:
>linux is cool and all, but
>i need my photoshop so i can't switch
>i really really really want to switch but i need the photoshop
every time
people who dont use gimp because "it's hard" are morons tbh, i too struggled with sony vegas pro when i first started using it, it happens to everyone
switch to gimp, adobe can go suck my wiener
you clearly never used gimp, the gui is awful, it has less options than photoshop or krita, gimp should be trashed for being garbage and never mentioned again, krita need better development
The best thing is that most of those morons use Photoshop once in a blue moon, and they probably use it for very simple purposes that could easily be replicated with something like GIMP, Photopea or whatever the frick.
Pretty much every Adobe suite product has a FOSS alternative that is going to be decent enough for amateurs.
>switch to affinity photo
>perpetual license (nice)
>runs on linux
issue solved
the desktop OS is dying and this is just one of the symptoms.
people fed up with windows being an advertising platform, macos becoming a walled prison, and linux gives misguided ones hope until they realize you'll sink months into tinkering getting basic shit done
>advertising platform
just use windows 10 IoT LTSC moron
i have a far more stable experience with linux (openSUSE, alpine) on my machines than my main OS (win 10 iot).
pc crashes, application crashes (mostly discord, but it crashes often) keyboard stops working, audio interface stops working.
on linux none of these problems occur. need software for work on windows though. considering upgrading pc and just running a vm
COPILOT IS BEING FORCIBLY INTEGRATED INTO EVERY WINDOWS 11 INSTALL
GOOGLE WINDOWS RECALL
NOW DO YOU WANT TO USE WINDOWS AFTER SEEING THAT LITERAL SPYWARE? YEA DIDNT THINK SO
are you 15 years old? copilot is a tool that can be turned off or cut out, just like defender or windows update, this is windows, not linux, it's piss easy to get rid of different parts of the system
*and then it reinstalls itself next Tuesday
>turned off
This is how it starts. In 2 years, you'll have to do it from control panel. Another 2 years? Registry edit. Another 5 years? It's perfectly normal, why would you want to turn it off?
also
>linux cant get rid of its parts
http://tinycorelinux.net/
well it'll be more like in 5 months it's done in the control panel, another 2 months registry edit, another 1 and a half months it's perfectly normal
linuxgays are embarrasing, you can turn off windows options forever for little to no effort, I been doing this for years since windows 10 release, unlike linux windows has tools for that
>unlike linux, windows has tools for that
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
yes, with windows you get the tools short after a new build release, click to disable, restart and done, with linux you must search google for hours
>They had gone so far as to add spyware to a personal computer
>'Dude they allow you to turn it off, I trust them and believe you can, its all local anyways'
This. Windows is spyware since 7 anyway. Maybe even Vista, I don't remember much from that shitshow.
People want an alternative to Windows because it keeps getting worse and there is basically no hope for it to ever get better again
How does one shill a free product?
If you think loonix is free you haven't really been paying attention.
Because
>Windows 10 will reach end of life in about a year and will (supposedly) fine people to keep using it after end of life
>nobody likes Windows 11
>Windows 12 is probably gonna be worse than Windows 11
So now everyone is looking for alternatives.
there's a subset of """content creators""" who make a living from ragebaiting about new technology. You saw it with the metaverse stuff, the apple glasses thing, etc. Now the target is windows so now they are having a linux shilling trend.
There's a certain type of linux evangelist who does not really use linux or maybe tried it on a live image sometime, but who invokes the name "linux" to try to look like a knowledgeable hackerman.
keep normalBlack folk on windowns where they belong
Big Linux wants to destroy the indie studios Microsoft and Apple
whatever you do dont help, encourage, or guide these gays.
>its shilling if people dont like the newest version of a product that i like
>linux isn't good it isn't able to be used as a windows alternative it has no software and its devs are useless neckbeards and trannies living with their moms
>also they somehow have enough money and resources to make a coordinated effort to get everyone to switch via some secret conspiracy where they are paying yters to promote it
this thread screams "immigrants come here to leech off welfare but also somehow took all of our jobs despite being lazy welfare queens."
>YouTubers
I don't know any
>Microsoft is shitting the bed with Windows again
>Linuxgays commence the usual circlejerk
>le Windows bad le Linux good
>Year of the Linux Desktop™ for sure this time
>JewTubers get on the grift for easy views and money
Same shit happened back in 2015 when Windows 10 released, everyone called it "muh ebil spyware", and everyone still moved to 10, because much like today, no matter how shit Windows is getting, Linux isn't getting any better, as Linuxgays are some of the most delusional beings that walk this earth.
some trend to pull normie views, saw some shit on the recommended the other day that was like "ELON SAYS LINUX IS THE FUTURE"
Screenshot? Link?
I don't recall anything like that.
No it didn't. Elon's been pretty damn clear about the fact that he hates Linux and normies hate Elon now. This makes no sense from both a linux and a microsoft fan's view.
Neither side would want to be associated with that.
The more people that use Linux, the more software will be released to run natively with Linux. Also as people move away from Windows or Mac, the hope is that they will try to be less shitty.
>The more people that use Linux
That's essentially begging the question, the question being WILL more people use Linux. With no apps and its well earned reputation for being shitty, there's no reason for the vast majority of people even to consider Linux when they're perfectly happy with macOS or Windows 11.
Bro the amount of normies I see rocking steam decks is kinda pushing them to try it.
I'm in a group chat where four of them keep sharing "apps" (their words, not mine) they find on discover that they like.
Most people use Linux on their phones or consoles, and Windows11 has terrible rep too. Nobody likes Apple outside USA as well. Reputation doesn't matter really. To become truly mainstream it needs some luck, marketing and way less terminal, but most importantly not break that easily. Average Joe needs to be able to fix shit with a click or two.
Japan was gobbling Apple's dick for a while but then they released that ad and now the country has a hate boner for it.
Which ad? The VR shit?
"Crush", supposedly it's especially tone deaf to the Japanese culture. something about the spirit of the tools which have served you, this portrayal comes off as disrespectful. or so I've heard. see for yourself:
>Nobody likes Apple outside USA as well.
$3.3T valuation
nobody likes them
You're like fricking Yogi Berra. "Nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded."
Yeah American market is strong and they are successful, nobody claimed otherwise. It has disgusting reputation and that's a fact.
>It has disgusting reputation
on 4chins, which of course is totally representative of the world
Or entire EU after the whole charge port debacle
What charge port debacle?
They fought EU and lost. Made a lame threat to leave EU market before bending over.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-66708571.amp
1. they didn't fight the eu
2. they certainly didn't fight it and lose
3. lightning was always promised to be a 10-year technology, and after 10 years guess what?
>They didn't fight it and lose
Hahahahaha
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/23/apple-opposes-eu-plans-to-make-common-charger-port-for-all-devices
That number will start dropping soon. They waited too long to leave China. They are already buying back their stock.
The only countres that view them as status symbols are india and the US. Most other countries use android.
Jewtubers are shilling Linux with the hope that it will get more people to switch. Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't.
>The more people that use Linux
For Year of the Linux Desktop™ to truly materialize, Linux will have to become Windows, full stop. You can't have it both ways, either it's as braindead "just werks" for normies as Windows is or it's this esoteric OS for neckbeards that have too much free time on their hands. If you expect a normie to jump to your level of knowledge of an OS just to stick it to Microsoft you're delusional beyond help. Your typical normie doesn't even know how to install Windows even though it's a braindead process.
>steam decks
>Most people use Linux on their phones or consoles
Just because something uses Linux as the kernel doesn't mean it's the same fricking thing, how can you make such moronic statements with a straight face. Linux Desktop sucks dick, period. It's a clusterfrick that's never gonna get better. Android and console systems are not Linux, they have their own abstraction layers where normies don't even need to know what's going on under the hood. SteamOS is the biggest Linux cope of the decade, the only reason it's a success is because it's a distro developed and maintained by Valve for their custom hardware only. The moment you try to turn it into a """Windows killer""" it becomes yet another distro with all the same issues.
Yes, steam decks.
Aka the only non-nintendo handheld on the market and it drops you into kde plasma.
>Linux desktop sucks dick yada yada
Skill issue, moronic post.
Linux community is the reason why Windows will hold market dominance, seethe
Literally schizo if you believe community ever influenced anything. Most moronic post in this thread by far, congrats.
>Literally schizo
You mean how every single thing that holds desktop Linux back is a grand conspiracy of all the large corporations and not the incompetency of Linux devs? Yeah Linux users are mentally ill, I agree.
What holds it back?
Something seems to be holding it back if it hasn't broke through 10% of global use since three decades and a .5% increase is a massive celebration.
Sure, but what?
I don't know, it's a perfect OS that does everything Windows does, if not better as it respects the user's freedoms. Must be some greater conspiracy of Microsoft and Red Hat and Poettering.
So you know nothing about it? What are you here?
>What are you here?
ESL Black person, opinion discarded
>Never heard of autocorrect
Explains why you know nothing
If Linux users can have strong opinions about Windows without knowing the first thing about it then so can I about Linux, I don't see the issue
This thread is literally about Linux, are you ok anon?
>without knowing the first thing about it
Everyone knows how to use Windows.
Linux users don't even know Windows has a terminal and a package manager, let alone how the rest of the OS works but run their mouth the loudest about it
>Windows has a terminal
That sucks.
>and a package manager,
That sucks
Gatekeeping is good.
Windows became obsolete after Proton, now that it decided to become the largest spyware everyone is switching to Linux, it's really not complicated. The only people staying with Windows are those too stupid to learn Linux, and dozens of people that work with Photoshop or Autocad.
>Are they paid
By who?Did Stallman pay them with his toe fungus?
>thing being used more means its being shilled
nani?
To be fair OP's point is about the new influx of youtubers that are against windows 11 spyware and switching to Linux. I noticed them since I switched to Linux recently (dual boot with Windows). They have been quite useful for me.
idk
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