as a 307IQ haver I use terminal (no, not an emulated one, real terminal I inherited from my grandfather), and I think that it is best UI possible, as it only requires terse inputs, and only gives you terse outputs, it's a bit like math, and math also filters idiots
There are more sub 70 IQ morons on the planet than 100 IQ human with some thinking capability.
at some point designers confused intuitiveness with dumbed down ui for cretins
>take the average human being >realize half is even dumber than that
welcome to design
>Everyone else but me is stupid! >t. Every person ever
You've basically shown yourself to be no different. If you were actually smart you would have said something else.
It boggles my mind that Gnome gays have a Windows 8 style start screen for "applications", but no one ever complains about that.
When Windows 8 launched everyone screeeched and shit their pants about how "distracting" it was to have a full start screen appear instead of a menu, but that's exactly what happens on Gnome.
At the time of its introduction, people were busy seething about Ubuntu Unity. So all the GNOME 3 drama got a bit sidelined.
Windows 8 is from that time too. Back then, all the corporations advertised tablets as THE FUTURE and Microsoft claimed that the surface would replace Desktop PCs.
GNOME is the only one to double down and stick with it. Everyone else slowly abandoned or adjusted.
>no one ever complains about that.
Because all the power users have already switched to KDE, XFCE, or a tiling autismwm setup. On Windows you don't really have this option, so Windows power users can do nothing but complain in the hopes that Microsoft will fix their shit design.
that screen is what made me change from Gnome to i3
there was lots of complaining at the time, and I did first try lots of gnome-tweaks to make it better. Those tweaks kept breaking or just not working as intended, because you were constantly fighting the gnome devs to enable useful features.
The secret to make a "good" user interface is
- to consider that the user is 5yo
- BUT at same time not making the user feel like a moron and not getting in the way of the users who know what they are doing
Designers always forget the second part, that's the problem.
A good UI looks simple yet it has powerful features and settings. It should be usable by both a chimpanzee and a power user. Pretty hard to do, so a lazy UI designer will just make a simple UI for morons and call it done.
The secret the to assume the flowing >user is over 30 >male >not mentally ill, at most slightly autistic >over 100IQ
This covers most of the people who actually matter and will use your software as something more than a toy.
There is no need to consider a general audience.
There isn't even a need to consider the broadest possible audience.
It's ok to have a target group. Suiting one group perfectly, is better than suiting everyone a little bit.
I had to learn that myself.
When i ended up with moronic zoomers using my software, it didn't raise my income significantly, but i now had to consider absolut drooling morons as my users which raised the effort i had to put in, especially from a support perspective.
Adobe doesn't design its UIs for 5yo morons. Yet their software is used by all kinds of people.
Artgays aren't known for being smart or tech-literate, yet they are able to use the Adobe Creative Suit.
Think about any good and successful software, and it will barely have a tablet UI for babies.
A tiling WM is someone else's vision of a productive desktop. I don't want to play WM Tetris, it's faster for me to just use the mouse to position and scale then alt-tab to what I want to focus on. The only thing I want occasionally is MS Windows style right-click on taskbar > tile horizontially or vertically. Once I have everything where I want it fiddling is no longer required, and my screen doesn't have room for more than like 4 windows—incidentally means putting windows on top of each other is better, something tiling wms don't do well.
dwm is general purpose wm, I can drag my floating windows around, but it's good that by default they fill in space, it has exactly same features as windows explorer.exe which has floating windows and ability to maximize them, even in various configurations such as side by side.
>Why
Cause Steve Jobs pushed simple, flat, minimalist designs and everyone loved it. Now everyone is just trying to copy Apple. MS did it with windows 11, google did it with chrome OS and Linux is doing it with GNOME.
I wish there was a nice qt version of xfce. The existing ones like lxqt dont feel very nice like xfce does. If kde was to die on every computer tomorrow xfce would be the way to go.
as a 307IQ haver I use terminal (no, not an emulated one, real terminal I inherited from my grandfather), and I think that it is best UI possible, as it only requires terse inputs, and only gives you terse outputs, it's a bit like math, and math also filters idiots
>no, not an emulated one, real terminal I inherited from my grandfather
Lmao nice
>terminal I inherited from my grandfather
Based tech aristocrat. This is the cyberpunk I want.
>no, not an emulated one, real terminal I inherited from my grandfather
>t.
because its the average. we live on Planet moron
>Everyone else but me is stupid!
>t. Every person ever
You've basically shown yourself to be no different. If you were actually smart you would have said something else.
something else.
What now low IQ?
There are more sub 70 IQ morons on the planet than 100 IQ human with some thinking capability.
at some point designers confused intuitiveness with dumbed down ui for cretins
>take the average human being
>realize half is even dumber than that
welcome to design
Not how averages work.
it is, a law of statistics is that, given a big enough sample size, the bell curve is evenly distributed
>File: kernighan-on-c-3.jpg
What C3? OOP C3?
It boggles my mind that Gnome gays have a Windows 8 style start screen for "applications", but no one ever complains about that.
When Windows 8 launched everyone screeeched and shit their pants about how "distracting" it was to have a full start screen appear instead of a menu, but that's exactly what happens on Gnome.
At the time of its introduction, people were busy seething about Ubuntu Unity. So all the GNOME 3 drama got a bit sidelined.
Windows 8 is from that time too. Back then, all the corporations advertised tablets as THE FUTURE and Microsoft claimed that the surface would replace Desktop PCs.
GNOME is the only one to double down and stick with it. Everyone else slowly abandoned or adjusted.
>no one ever complains about that.
Because all the power users have already switched to KDE, XFCE, or a tiling autismwm setup. On Windows you don't really have this option, so Windows power users can do nothing but complain in the hopes that Microsoft will fix their shit design.
that screen is what made me change from Gnome to i3
there was lots of complaining at the time, and I did first try lots of gnome-tweaks to make it better. Those tweaks kept breaking or just not working as intended, because you were constantly fighting the gnome devs to enable useful features.
Because they know all the normal people have given up and gone back to VTEs and there's no way to convince them to come back.
>kde
Krashing desktop environment.
>gnome
This is why I use Cinnamon. It has GNOME's quality engineering without the toddler interface
>GTK based
would be a shame if someone would... deprecate it
You WILL look at inconsistent CSD baby crap and you WILL be happy.
the thought of firefox moving away from GTK scares me
Not gonna lie cinnamon is very comfy. Not sure if i would call gnome quality engineering though XD.
>GNOME's quality engineering
amazing bait
>Yeah, let's delete most of our old non-symbolic icons that our very own GTK depends on. What could possibly go wrong?
Yes.
The secret to make a "good" user interface is
- to consider that the user is 5yo
- BUT at same time not making the user feel like a moron and not getting in the way of the users who know what they are doing
Designers always forget the second part, that's the problem.
A good UI looks simple yet it has powerful features and settings. It should be usable by both a chimpanzee and a power user. Pretty hard to do, so a lazy UI designer will just make a simple UI for morons and call it done.
The secret the to assume the flowing
>user is over 30
>male
>not mentally ill, at most slightly autistic
>over 100IQ
This covers most of the people who actually matter and will use your software as something more than a toy.
>over 100IQ
>not mentally ill
mutually exclusive
>>male
Why does that matter?
There is no need to consider a general audience.
There isn't even a need to consider the broadest possible audience.
It's ok to have a target group. Suiting one group perfectly, is better than suiting everyone a little bit.
I had to learn that myself.
When i ended up with moronic zoomers using my software, it didn't raise my income significantly, but i now had to consider absolut drooling morons as my users which raised the effort i had to put in, especially from a support perspective.
Adobe doesn't design its UIs for 5yo morons. Yet their software is used by all kinds of people.
Artgays aren't known for being smart or tech-literate, yet they are able to use the Adobe Creative Suit.
Think about any good and successful software, and it will barely have a tablet UI for babies.
>tablet UI
adobe PS is designed for graphical tablets
>graphical tablets
And pic related is how this looks like.
This isn't the same as an iPad and this UI is definitely not designed for babies.
KDE is not much better.
it is
Why?
switch to a tiling wm already, no point wasting time trying to adapt to someone elses vision of a productive desktop
A tiling WM is someone else's vision of a productive desktop. I don't want to play WM Tetris, it's faster for me to just use the mouse to position and scale then alt-tab to what I want to focus on. The only thing I want occasionally is MS Windows style right-click on taskbar > tile horizontially or vertically. Once I have everything where I want it fiddling is no longer required, and my screen doesn't have room for more than like 4 windows—incidentally means putting windows on top of each other is better, something tiling wms don't do well.
that's why you use everything in tabbed mode. Actually tiling things is rare but useful.
Dumb people are impressed by complexity
Smart people are impressed by simplicity
>take a guess who's into tiling wm's & ricing
It's simple once you memorize the default hotkeys.
tinker trannies take it too far though, it's true.
>tiling wm's
nope
>ricing
nope
dwm is general purpose wm, I can drag my floating windows around, but it's good that by default they fill in space, it has exactly same features as windows explorer.exe which has floating windows and ability to maximize them, even in various configurations such as side by side.
>Why
Cause Steve Jobs pushed simple, flat, minimalist designs and everyone loved it. Now everyone is just trying to copy Apple. MS did it with windows 11, google did it with chrome OS and Linux is doing it with GNOME.
I wish there was a nice qt version of xfce. The existing ones like lxqt dont feel very nice like xfce does. If kde was to die on every computer tomorrow xfce would be the way to go.
W.I.M.P. is the only UI that scales workloads.
Windows
Icons
Menus
Pointers
Everything else is for israelites, Black folk, and UX designers.
because they’re morons who can’t into user testing
yes, even the most normie of normies find modern ui design terrible and complain about it a lot
African population is exploding while whites and asians shrink. Theyre future-proofing
This is not even the case. Modern UI design actually far more difficult to use than old UI.