1950s USA

Americans, what were the 1950s like in the USA?Is it true that American women then did everything for their men?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They maintained wholesome trad values that existed for millennia, except with modern technology and prosperity.

    >women
    There was a lot of cultural momentum from previous times, but women were starting to get real freedom in this era. GI bill veterans hoped to send their daughters to college and due to the postwar boom there was an opportunity to do so.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      In that case, when did women begin to deteriorate in the United States from the mid-60s?It just doesn't fit in my head how you can brainwash that women have changed so much since the mid-60s (at least what I heard on 4ch)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        In my view it was connected to Technological advances which altered Society.
        Remember, in the 1950s it was a strange and new idea to have a Television in the Home.
        People thought that it was like having a Stranger in your Home, who could neither hear nor see you.
        Apparently Radio was disassociated enough since there was no Face to look at.
        And with the increase of sedentary jobs, and increase of a 'fictional reality' people opened up to new ideas, which then went down the route of more rights for women, for blacks, etc.
        It altered the way people perceived politics, with more and more dumbed down framing of arguments, easier and shorter quips and slogans to further their own campaign.
        This then culminated in the deterioration of trust, and polarization of society.
        We are more numerous now than ever, but more people feel alone than ever.

        If we really want to look where it all went wrong, I would say Media.
        At least the way it was handled.
        Let's not forget that we cannot turn back that Clock, we have to live with it.
        But that doesn't mean it's all lost, many are rejecting social media overconsumption, and they are more likely to have traditional lifestyles.
        There are also Hippies who reject a lot of Modernity and have a lot of kids, so it's not exclusively one Sided.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        No? Such extreme social rules only applied to the very wealthy and, predominately, protestants. As in any era the amount of money you had determined the amount of stuff you had to do. For most Americans, women were homemakers and husbands the breadwinners. This does not necessarily mean the former take orders from the latter, even with stringent divorce laws a husband could easily and quickly get fricked by alimony + child support if they separated, which was fully legal. And because of this divorce laws were loosened in the 70s because it was mostly men being victims.

        "Deterioration" is not a good way to describe it. If you mean wealthy WASP culture then yes that degraded and it degraded because modern technology rendered it's social algorithm irrelevant just as technology made the south's racial codes irrelevant too. But if you go into northern industrial cities, ones with lots of catholics, women were already in the workplace in some capacity because life was expensive and the men poor. The same for any other immigrant group. There's a class and racial divide that is lost in this discussion, which existed much more strongly in the 1950s than today. In a world where segregation is not only explicitly legal but state enforced, do you really think the average joe/jane gives a shit if jane jr takes a job to make money or goes to college instead of marrying? This certainly annoyed many parents, but the economic pressure forced it. That an the ongoing draft for Korea then Vietnam.

        More importantly, every white house had electricity and every white house had a phone. As such, every white house had an automatic washing machine and (later in the decade) an automatic dryer, dishwasher, and refrigerator if not also a freezer too. EVERY white house had minimum 1 car, most 2 as mothers became demanding and men were still expected to use mass transit (like a train or ferry).

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The schools were split by white/back and non male/female unless they were catholic, but again catholics had no money (at least at the start of the decade) and catholics were now permitted into the regular schools therefore making the religious school system less relevant.

          Again there's different perspectives on this. There are many, many, many different parts of the United States. What goes for a predominantly israeli borough of New York in 1951 does not also go for new suburbs outside Atlanta or the wealthier areas of San Francisco. Then there's the entire industrial belt and it's cities of Philadelphia, Trenton, Albany, Eire, Cleveland, Detroit and Pontiac versus the new sunbelt cities of Malibu, Palo Alto, Orlando and Ft. Worth.

          Just as two random examples, observe the enormous changes in Northern Virginia with the creation of the Dept of Defense, construction of the Pentagon and Dulles Airport. What began as several sleepy southern towns run by /misc/ rapidly became thriving urban zones surrounded by sprawl feeding into a newly expanded Federal government that had not banned segregation yet .. which meant all those new clerical jobs were filled by women often single women. Or look at San Jose, what began as a predominately hispanic farm town with goats, tractors and cows suddenly became the center of American computer chip manufacturing, fabrication and design .. an industry known to employ lots of females because it's unmanly, feminine clerical work. And by the end of it, mexicans were suddenly equal to whites and were required to go to the same coed public schools instead of the religious ones they already knew where genders were separated.

          America 1960 was not the same as America 1949.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The atomized mid-20th century suburban American family was completely devoid of anything that can be seriously called tradition.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was good only if you were a White veteran.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, America deteriorated greatly during the 50’s culturally. This is the era where you started to see “independent” woman who have jobs and strong opinions becoming mainstream. Woman are why JFK became president.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it had good aesthetics, but look at how quickly it turned into the 60s. Most Americans probably thought they had it made at the time, but 2020s America was already crawling under the surface.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    a lot skinnier for starters

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That was true of the 60s, 70s, and most of the 80s too. Obesity rates in the US didn't actually start to take off in any meaningful way until the tail end of the 80s, and then never stopped going up. It's actually a really interesting phenomenon and I've always wondered why it was specifically the late 80s where the tipping point happened.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some say it's the Seedoils, but IMHO it may just be that there was more of it rather than the type of fat.
        Also more Sugar.
        And many Chemicals that are now in Circulation that we don't really understand.
        Also Microplastics...

        Yeah we really made a Mess in a couple of Decades...

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The israelites saw us as subservient golems they made us fat and diabetic so we wouldn’t rebel

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >dajooz

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some say it's the Seedoils, but IMHO it may just be that there was more of it rather than the type of fat.
        Also more Sugar.
        And many Chemicals that are now in Circulation that we don't really understand.
        Also Microplastics...

        Yeah we really made a Mess in a couple of Decades...

        The israelites saw us as subservient golems they made us fat and diabetic so we wouldn’t rebel

        Obesity is mercury deficiency. Diabetes is lead deficiency.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because of fat is le bad FUD when it was probably everyone working in offices that was causing the heart attacks

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It used to work, rodents are still made fat with a high fat diet. It no longer works today because

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          Obesity is mercury deficiency. Diabetes is lead deficiency.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was never good anywhere ever

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The 50s is when routine infant circumcision became widespread. My grandfather, born in the 1930s was uncut. My father and his two brothers were born in the 1950s and were all cut.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Divorcées and single parents were less common, people had more kids at younger ages, and yes fathers and husbands generally held more power than they do today. Women were more likely to be housewives without a career, though some worked in the service sector (usually as telephone operators, teachers, secretaries, etc) or (less likely) went to grad school.
      On the negative side, domestic abuse wasn't taken as seriously as it is now.

      It was already common in the 1920s, though not the norm. Probably became more common as more kids were born in hospitals.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They must have been completely fricked since they instantly gave rise to the h*ppie movement.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Love it...
      Reminds me of this :

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