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>got brain damage from oxygen deprivation
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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    good luck

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't do drugs, folx. Be happy you are still alive

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn't drugs, just an honest mistake, but yeah I'm glad to be here

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what the frick kind of honest mistake causes brain damage?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          autoerotic asphyxiation

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmao what the frick you perverted moron
            who does that? who fricking does that?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not that anon but I unironically want to suffocate under a chubby woman's ass

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw god directly smites perverts

            not a good idea.
            if you want to do something that drastic, try cerebrolysin or semax first.

            >lsd
            >drastic
            One of the most benign and harmless drugs you could possibly take. Cigarettes are a hundred times more dangerous.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >One of the most benign and harmless drugs you could possibly take
            Midwit detected. LSD won't hurt your organs but it can do irreparable damage to your psyche.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How did you find this site, grandpa?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you are the only one who seems to insist what I described is "extremely common"
            I understand that basic statistics are probably beyond your grasp but if one person can name three people he personally knows who have suffered a specific effect then you are either an extreme outlier or that is by definition a common effect.

            >It borders on malicious to promote the idea that LSD is entirely harmless
            And here we have a textbook example of what you referred to as "being disingenuous". At no point did I ever claim that LSD
            >can never, in any case, under any circumstances, lead to negative outcomes in an individual
            and your suggestion that I did is pure dishonesty. All I ever claimed is that LSD is

            >One of the most benign and harmless drugs you could possibly take.
            which, frankly, has been proven beyond any doubt by your simple inability to provide even a single documented case of any harm being caused by LSD. If it's so clearly dangerous, so commonly prone to cause psychosis, then why have you been in this thread for literal days and haven't been able to provide even one example of this harm aside from your own anecdotal claims?

            If I claimed that meth causes tooth decay then I would have a very easy time providing proof. If LSD can so easily cause permanent psychosis, as you have repeatedly claimed, then where is the evidence? You claims about "people you know" are not evidence.

            >the one study you linked has n = 16 participants
            I only linked one because I know how slimy little liars like you operate and no matter how many studies I provide, you'll either ignore them or come up with an excuse to dismiss them. Here, let me demonstrate:
            >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114568039
            >A recent large population study of 130,000 adults in the United States failed to find evidence for a link between psychedelic use (lysergic acid diethylamide, psilocybin or mescaline) and mental health problems.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >your simple inability to provide even a single documented case of any harm being caused by LSD

            https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41145-x#Sec21
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8251869/

            you are moronic dude, there are plenty of case studies about "harm" (not the original claim we were discussing btw) caused by LSD. the issue is that they disqualify these in larger studies (im telling you this for the second time now). they also disqualify these from studies on early psychoses too

            your whole view on this is like a 19 year old that desperately wants to try LSD. 0 nuance and fully moronic. this is exactly how reddit views psychedelics too. they've never tried it, and then find out it's useful in some clinical settings for some treatment resistant disorders. the issue is they don't know how to read so they take this to mean it is a completely harmless drug

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he desperately googled a bunch of studies that sounded good but he didn't actually read
            Oh, dear. Well, at least you tried. Let's have a look, shall we?

            Your first study is a small study of people with pre-existing conditions who are self-reporting their experiences with, against, vaguely "psychedelics". This study specifies that every problem reported by the participants was something that they had already experienced previously:
            >https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41145-x#Sec21
            >No one reported entirely new psychiatric disorders emerge after the experience that were essentially non-existent before
            The authors claim that their study is
            >the only one to have selectively invited individuals who believed they had suffered long-term negative psychological responses to take part in a two-phase study culminating in a semi-structured interview.
            So despite selecting specifically for people who believe that they have suffered long-term mental health problems as a result of psychedelic use, the study found that not a single one of them had a problem that was actually caused by the psychedelics themselves - every single person in this study, by their own admission, had experienced these problems prior to any drug use.

            >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8251869/
            And here we have a study that actually supports my position and proves my point. I take it you didn't actually read this one either? Here, let me provide you with some excerpts:
            >Geert-Jorgenson et al. concluded following 3 years' use of LSD in 129 patients that "complications have been so few it seems absurd to tabulate them,"
            >A similarly benign note was sounded by Levine & Ludwig in the same year who wrote that "It would seem that the incidence statistics
            better support a statement that the drug is exceptionally safe rather than dangerous.
            I'll call your attention to that last bit again: LSD is, quote, "exceptionally safe".

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i dont have access to the full study, only the abstract. did you notice the authors of the paper i linked are not Geert-Jorgenson nor Levine & Ludwig? how about you upload the pdf?

            >Evidence supports the association of LSD use with panic reactions, prolonged schizoaffective psychoses and post-hallucinogen perceptual disorder, the latter being present continually for as long as 5 years.

            i dont know what you are babbling about but this is pretty clear cut. you are just looking at any and all references the paper makes within?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >i dont have access to the full study, only the abstract.
            How utterly embarrassing for you to openly admit that you just googled something that had an abstract that sounded like it supported your position. If you don't have access to these articles then frankly, you don't have the ability to understand them. You're literally just looking at the cover of a book and presenting it as evidence without having any idea of what is contained within.
            >Evidence supports the association of LSD use with panic reactions, prolonged schizoaffective psychoses and post-hallucinogen perceptual disorder, the latter being present continually for as long as 5 years.
            Even if this were true (your own article contains multiple examples of studies showing the exact opposite) then it still wouldn't be relevant to the discussion of whether or not LSD can cause permanent psychosis.

            >did you notice the authors of the paper i linked are not Geert-Jorgenson nor Levine & Ludwig?
            I did indeed notice this. Did you notice that this is because your paper is just a meta-analysis and not an actual study? And despite cherry picking studies that supported their hypothesis, the authors were still forced to admit that
            >Case controlled experimental studies have likewise yielded mixed results attesting to an association between LSD use and psychosis.
            in which case I'll refer you back to

            Thank you for proving my point:
            >no matter how many studies I provide, you'll either ignore them or come up with an excuse to dismiss them
            If you'd actually read the article rather than skimming it trying to find some point to nitpick, you might have come across something like this:
            >Fears that psychedelics can lead to psychosis date to the 1960s, with widespread reports of “acid casualties” in the mainstream news. But Krebs says that because psychotic disorders are relatively prevalent, affecting about one in 50 people, correlations can often be mistaken for causations. “Psychedelics are psychologically intense, and many people will blame anything that happens for the rest of their lives on a psychedelic experience.”

            >Maybe read your own sources man.
            Oh, we're doing this now? Ok. The primary sources in the article I linked are
            >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114565653
            >Classic psychedelic use is associated with reduced psychological distress and suicidality in the United States adult population
            and
            >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114568039
            >Psychedelics not linked to mental health problems or suicidal behavior: A population study
            These are both surveys of well over 100,000 people. Where are the examples of this type of permanent psychosis?
            [...]
            >people where were doing fine on Tuesday, tried acid on Wednesday, and by Friday morning were wandering around the streets muttering to themselves and still are homeless and lost several years later.

            [...]
            >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7294226/
            >a literal individual case study
            We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here, aren't we?

            >“Psychedelics are psychologically intense, and many people will blame anything that happens for the rest of their lives on a psychedelic experience.”

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the abstract that very explicitly demonstrates harmful outcomes?

            ok for real you have wasted enough of my time now

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >your simple inability to provide even a single documented case of any harm being caused by LSD

            https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41145-x#Sec21
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8251869/

            you are moronic dude, there are plenty of case studies about "harm" (not the original claim we were discussing btw) caused by LSD. the issue is that they disqualify these in larger studies (im telling you this for the second time now). they also disqualify these from studies on early psychoses too

            your whole view on this is like a 19 year old that desperately wants to try LSD. 0 nuance and fully moronic. this is exactly how reddit views psychedelics too. they've never tried it, and then find out it's useful in some clinical settings for some treatment resistant disorders. the issue is they don't know how to read so they take this to mean it is a completely harmless drug

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7294226/

            another one for you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            #
            Maybe read your own sources man. Under limitations
            >Longitudinal data were not available on mental health or other factors before psychedelic use. We cannot exclude the possibility that use of psychedelics might have a negative effect on mental health for some individuals or groups, which might be counterbalanced at a population level by a positive effect on mental health for others. People who choose to use psychedelics might have better initial mental health before using psychedelics, and people who experience problems apparently related to psychedelics may choose to not use them again. We did not adjust for multiple comparisons, so some of the associations with weak statistical significance are likely due to chance. Screening questions, rather than diagnostic interviews, were used as symptom indicators.
            I had to read that last sentence twice just to confirm what I thought I read in the methodology:
            >We examined 11 self-reported indicators of past year mental
            health problems
            Lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for proving my point:
            >no matter how many studies I provide, you'll either ignore them or come up with an excuse to dismiss them
            If you'd actually read the article rather than skimming it trying to find some point to nitpick, you might have come across something like this:
            >Fears that psychedelics can lead to psychosis date to the 1960s, with widespread reports of “acid casualties” in the mainstream news. But Krebs says that because psychotic disorders are relatively prevalent, affecting about one in 50 people, correlations can often be mistaken for causations. “Psychedelics are psychologically intense, and many people will blame anything that happens for the rest of their lives on a psychedelic experience.”

            >Maybe read your own sources man.
            Oh, we're doing this now? Ok. The primary sources in the article I linked are
            >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114565653
            >Classic psychedelic use is associated with reduced psychological distress and suicidality in the United States adult population
            and
            >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114568039
            >Psychedelics not linked to mental health problems or suicidal behavior: A population study
            These are both surveys of well over 100,000 people. Where are the examples of this type of permanent psychosis?

            Kratom is to hard opiods what coffee is to methamphetamine

            But that being said I do think opiods aren't as unhealthy as other hard drugs. Other than withdrawals and stuff they have milder long term effects. Stims by contrast a lot are legitimately neurotoxic to some extent.
            [...]
            You're a redditor acting like nothing bad can ever happen from weed and psychedelics, and if it did happen then "oh well they were predisposed to being with". The issue being no one could ever posssibly know whether or not they were predisposed to mental illness with complete certainty. I had some horrible trips and while there was no lasting negative effects (that I'm conscious of), not everyone bounces back. I personally know of a small handful of cases of people where were doing fine on Tuesday, tried acid on Wednesday, and by Friday morning were wandering around the streets muttering to themselves and still are homeless and lost several years later.

            >people where were doing fine on Tuesday, tried acid on Wednesday, and by Friday morning were wandering around the streets muttering to themselves and still are homeless and lost several years later.

            [...]

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7294226/

            another one for you

            >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7294226/
            >a literal individual case study
            We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here, aren't we?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>a literal individual case study
            >We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here, aren't we?
            yeah... that's what you asked for. are you just trolling me by pretending to be moronic?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, he's clearly not pretending. Highest fried his brain with drugs. I believe he used to be intelligent, and after abusing drugs he's got some semblance of intellect remaining (like arguing tactics, citing papers, quoting them, etc) but it's all superficial at the chatgpt level. In other words, he seems to have lost his ability to critically think.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >In other words, he seems to have lost his ability to critically think.
            My consistent position has been that LSD is an extremely safe drug and that it cannot and will not ever cause permanent psychosis, which is the claim that began this debate. If you're so smart and my brain is so fried, then this should be very easy for you, yes?

            Here are two extremely simple and straightforward questions. Either you can respond to them simply and honestly or you can admit that you're wrong.

            >Does LSD have the potential to cause permanent psychosis, yes or no?
            >If yes, do you have any evidence in support of this specific claim?

            the abstract that very explicitly demonstrates harmful outcomes?

            ok for real you have wasted enough of my time now

            An abstract in a meta-study cannot "demonstrate" anything. I'll refer you to my questions above. If I'm so obviously wrong and you're so obviously right then this should be easy for you, yes? Here's your chance to be open and honest and prove me wrong. Can you do it?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Does LSD have the potential to cause permanent psychosis, yes or no?
            Yes.
            >If yes, do you have any evidence in support of this specific claim?
            Yes. A case study was provided.
            >it cannot and will not ever cause permanent psychosis, which is the claim that began this debate.
            So why dismiss a case study showing it's happened at least once, which is more than never? Concede the argument.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes. A case study was provided.
            Are you referring to

            [...]

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7294226/

            another one for you

            ?

            Allow me to quote:
            >His manic symptoms resolved over 3 weeks with appropriate lithium carbonate therapy.
            Is this an example of a permanent effect?

            >So why dismiss a case study showing it's happened at least once
            There's a reason why individual case studies are generally worthless. You have absolutely no basis for scientific reasoning. At the barest minimum, you have no control. Additionally, you don't even know what this guy actually took.

            Let me guess, you didn't read the study?
            >He bought a $5 slip of blotter paper that allegedly contained LSD and ingested it at about 7:00 p.m. on a Saturday.
            >allegedly contained LSD
            Your "proof" is a case study of a single person who bought street drugs, had no way of knowing what they actually were except for what the dealer claimed, took them, and had a response that is abnormal for the supposed drug he was taking? An intelligent person would conclude that he probably didn't get a blotter of pure LSD. We have no way of knowing because it was literally just one guy. Do you really consider this to be compelling evidence?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >IQfy unironically doesn't understand why case studies aren't compelling evidence
            I knew things had declined here but I didn't realize it was this bad.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is literally evidence that the phenomenon is possible. It's a question of frequency, not whether or not it exists. This is literally basic logic, unless you have some compelling argument for why that case study was somehow a unique event that could never occur again.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It is literally evidence that the phenomenon is possible.
            Is it? How do you know that the drug this man took was even LSD? Because the person who sold it to him on the street claimed that it was?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I provide multiple studies sampling well over 100,000 people showing no evidence of LSD causing permanent psychosis and you counter with a single study of literally one(1) person and pretend that this is a compelling counter-argument? Really?

            >If you'd actually read the article rather than skimming it trying to find some point to nitpick, you might have come across something like this
            Except that excerpt doesn't appear anywhere in the paper you linked. Need a PDF? By the way, I was trying to be nice by limiting my rebut to the methodological flaws and the study's own limitations per the authors' own admission. But I can't resist
            >>The authors declared the following potential conflicts of interest with respect to the research, authorship, and/or publication of this article:
            TSK is board leader and PØJ is a board member of EmmaSofia, a non-
            profit organization based in Oslo, Norway, working to increase access to quality-controlled MDMA and psychedelics. PØJ is also a board member of the Association for a Humane Drug Policy, Oslo, Norway.

            >the people studying drug use are people who have an interest in drug use? noooooooooo this isn't fair!!!!
            Son, I'm not playing these games with you. If you want to do the typical IQfy nitpicking then knock yourself out. I have provided overwhelming evidence in support of my argument - multiple studies of hundreds of thousand of people - and rather than at least make some attempt to criticize the methodology or conclusions of the studies, all you can manage is the most midwit of all logical fallacies, the personal attack on the authors.

            I noticed that you decided to completely ignore the other study. I wonder why that is - couldn't find any excuse to dismiss it based on who wrote it, so better to pretend it doesn't exist?
            >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114565653

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If you'd actually read the article rather than skimming it trying to find some point to nitpick, you might have come across something like this
            Except that excerpt doesn't appear anywhere in the paper you linked. Need a PDF? By the way, I was trying to be nice by limiting my rebut to the methodological flaws and the study's own limitations per the authors' own admission. But I can't resist
            >>The authors declared the following potential conflicts of interest with respect to the research, authorship, and/or publication of this article:
            TSK is board leader and PØJ is a board member of EmmaSofia, a non-
            profit organization based in Oslo, Norway, working to increase access to quality-controlled MDMA and psychedelics. PØJ is also a board member of the Association for a Humane Drug Policy, Oslo, Norway.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >autoerotic
            Pleb tier. At least find a hot girl who will take your breath away.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you circumcised?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i dont believe you, you say that to be le funny. Now say what really happened

      • 2 months ago
        OP

        Everyone in the thread is larping please stop replying to them.
        The honest mistake was just diving off a board too high and into a pool too deep for me and nothing else

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you know if it will impact your intelligence going forward?
          Idk about your course but in my engineering degree, the last 6 month were the hardest by far. Weird fricking math, weird academic shit, 0 purpose in the industry.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >DUH HECKIN DRUGERINOOS DUN DID IT.
      Idiot normie NPC. My first thought was OP must have done autoerotic asphyxiation or tried to khs and reading this thread my guess was correct. Had he used drugs he would be in much better shape and wouldn't have ruined his mind and brain through sexual depravity. Opioids are safer, more dignified and better for you than hedonistic sexual activity.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. guy that thinks hes hard consuming kratom

        actual opiate use is not healthy dude

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kratom is to hard opiods what coffee is to methamphetamine

          But that being said I do think opiods aren't as unhealthy as other hard drugs. Other than withdrawals and stuff they have milder long term effects. Stims by contrast a lot are legitimately neurotoxic to some extent.

          How did you find this site, grandpa?

          You're a redditor acting like nothing bad can ever happen from weed and psychedelics, and if it did happen then "oh well they were predisposed to being with". The issue being no one could ever posssibly know whether or not they were predisposed to mental illness with complete certainty. I had some horrible trips and while there was no lasting negative effects (that I'm conscious of), not everyone bounces back. I personally know of a small handful of cases of people where were doing fine on Tuesday, tried acid on Wednesday, and by Friday morning were wandering around the streets muttering to themselves and still are homeless and lost several years later.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The issue being no one could ever posssibly know whether or not they were predisposed to mental illness with complete certainty.
            lmao

            LSD has been aggressively studied for literal generations. If giving people such complete mental breakdowns to the point that previously normal people turn into permanently homeless crazies is such a common side effect that you personally know multiple people this happened to, then surely you can provide some corroborating evidence from medical literature, right? This isn't just your own bullshit anecdotes, right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the peer reviewed science copout to this is to say they were le predisposed to becoming insane homeless crackheads because they had a 4th cousin with schizophrenia. you have been reading reddit too much to not understand psychedelics are dangerous

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            this. not against them just against "yeah totally good for you" angle. people have a wildly varying perception of this world. and they usually fight everyone on it. psychedelic experiences can mess some people up.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Be careful with autoerotic asphyxiation

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    t'would be a pretty cool story if you manage to see it through anyway. that's what i'd tell myself atleast

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends how long ago when the damage was. You can repair to near if not all capability again if you immediately start physical therapy, usually for concussions though; you will regain a lot of the function over time regardless; you can build new brain synapse with regimenting but I’m not explaining that because it’s not foolproof/safe.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The millions of neurons OP lost through his fetish will come back as much as the dick of a troony will because he followed jis fetish.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had chemotherapy and it ruined my intellectual ability. Bad luck gets you sometimes...

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    there's some bad research about microdosing lsd
    dunno, sounds made up though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not a good idea.
      if you want to do something that drastic, try cerebrolysin or semax first.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        TRY SEMEN?! LMAO WHAT THE FRICK YOU homosexual LOOOOOOL

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well i can relate sort of. I use a drug a lot that 100% contains high amounts of heavy metals. I definitely notice cognitive decline. But idgaf im already smarter than most people and I still am even with this added handicap. But it can be scary when something i know suddenly just isnt there anymore. For example piano song i played 1000 times suddenly ill just reach a section and its not there anymore, and I have to relearn it

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    op you cute? I'll choke the shit out of you and call you a degenerate homosexual the entire time. you'll love it

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/rcJi3VT.jpg

      [...]
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      what did the posts say why are they gone

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pic rel. His gf pegs and chokes him

        >The issue being no one could ever posssibly know whether or not they were predisposed to mental illness with complete certainty.
        lmao

        LSD has been aggressively studied for literal generations. If giving people such complete mental breakdowns to the point that previously normal people turn into permanently homeless crazies is such a common side effect that you personally know multiple people this happened to, then surely you can provide some corroborating evidence from medical literature, right? This isn't just your own bullshit anecdotes, right?

        No i dont have studies. I dont care if you believe me or not. The experience can be subjectively deeply traumatic for people, if you need a fricking study for that either you've never done acid yourself, or you're so søy-brained that you need a peer reviewed source to tell you if its raining or not

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Everyone in the thread is larping please stop replying to them.
          The honest mistake was just diving off a board too high and into a pool too deep for me and nothing else

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No i dont have studies.
          No surprise there. As usual, all you have is a purely faith-based argument supplemented by some lies about "people you know". I've personally done acid many times and the first time I did any psychedelic or any drug at all, for that matter, was 10g of mushrooms which remains one of the best experiences of my life.

          No one is being permanently damaged or affected by these substances but for the ones who have a bad experience, that's entirely on them. Psychedelics are just tools and like any tool, they can be used improperly. If you hand someone a gun and they use it to shoot themselves, is it the fault of the gun?

          the peer reviewed science copout to this is to say they were le predisposed to becoming insane homeless crackheads because they had a 4th cousin with schizophrenia. you have been reading reddit too much to not understand psychedelics are dangerous

          >they were le predisposed to becoming insane homeless crackheads
          I'm not asking for a scientific explanation for why this supposedly happens. What I'm asking for is even ONE single documented case of a previously normal, healthy person being transformed into a "homeless crackhead" because they tried acid once, as

          Kratom is to hard opiods what coffee is to methamphetamine

          But that being said I do think opiods aren't as unhealthy as other hard drugs. Other than withdrawals and stuff they have milder long term effects. Stims by contrast a lot are legitimately neurotoxic to some extent.
          [...]
          You're a redditor acting like nothing bad can ever happen from weed and psychedelics, and if it did happen then "oh well they were predisposed to being with". The issue being no one could ever posssibly know whether or not they were predisposed to mental illness with complete certainty. I had some horrible trips and while there was no lasting negative effects (that I'm conscious of), not everyone bounces back. I personally know of a small handful of cases of people where were doing fine on Tuesday, tried acid on Wednesday, and by Friday morning were wandering around the streets muttering to themselves and still are homeless and lost several years later.

          claims is such a common occurrence that he personally knows multiple people who tried acid literally one single time and became permanently homeless and insane as a result.

          Surely this (apparently) extremely common process has been documented at least once?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            hrmmm yes indubitably, undoubtedly this hast occurn before and documented by le awesomesauce science?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >literally no evidence of it having ever happened

            >j-just believe me bro, i know like 15 guys who were perfectly normal until they tried acid ONCE and now they're crazy and homeless!!!
            >what do you mean you want proof of this absurd claim? you think i would just come on IQfy and tell lies??

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know what to tell you anon. There are all sorts of conventional knowledge that isnt documented by le science. You seem like a r*dditor, so if you want a documented source so bad go back to your favorite basedence website. Read through some of the subreddits and if you spend enough time you can probably locate the post history of someone and witness their deterioration over time. Especially easy to find on /r/dmt. Sort by new and you will occasionally see a post that resembles comple schizophrenic word salad. Sometimes you can click the name and you'll see an entire story laid out. Starting with regular posts, then an "tried dmt first time", then a gradual shift where you can actually see their mind turning to mush as their posts become less and less coherent.

            This isn't LSD obviously, or single use, but its the only thing i can think of where you'll find something akin to documented psychedelic related onset of psychosis.

            I used to find those kind of accounts just as a hobby and out of curiosity. Definitely the dmt subreddit was the easiest place to discover these cases.

            Other than that, idk. Consult with friends. Ask around online. I dont know how common it is, but it is definitely common enough that you shouldn't have too hard of a time finding others with similar accounts.

            Its strange that you expect some sort of scientific proof of this. For pretty obvious reasons i doubt there are any case studies or anything.

            There's stuff like k2 spice and other stuff thats sold in gas stations that fricks people up, too. I dont have studies proving it, but feel free to go smoke spice yourself and give it a try. Lol.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Here, i even found this from just a quick glance through most recent posts.

            >https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/1bxf9ma/what_is_going_on_with_me/

            Read his story and it is clearly an example of psychosis. Obviously this is not LSD, and he seems lucid enough by the time he wrote this post. But this at least shows one case where psychedelic use seems to have caused temporary psychosis. If you can accept this, it isnt too much of a stretch to understand that not everyone who goes into psychosis i. such a manner returns back to normal mental state afterwards. Some people experience long term damage to their psyche. Feel free to search yourself, i guarantee you'll find examples.

            You have no reason to believe my anecdotal evidence, but I'll share a story anyways. It's from when I was in high school. There was a kid 2yrs older than me. Lets say his name was Jim. There was a popular spot in the woods of a park to smoke weed. One night me and a group of friends were out there, and Jim wandered up babbling incoherently, talking to himself, completely out of it. After some investigation, I found out that he'd done acid with some of his pals. They say he walked into a closet with the lights off during the trip and refused to come out. After that he was never sane again. Even years later he was still occasionally spotted wandering around the streets, clearly homeless, and clearly out of his mind. Before that he was a normal guy. These kind of stories are pretty common urban legends, but I witnessed it firsthand.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the dmt sub is pretty interesting to see sub-clinical psychosis. people there will post shit like "i believe dmt is a spaceship compacted down to a molecular level and created by aliens" and be totally serious. obviously someone that believes that is starting to become very fricked up mentally but its not going to appear in a le peer reviewed study any time soon

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, it's a guilty pleasure of mine. I did DMT myself a few times. I don't intend to ever do it again.

            Here's another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/1bvfeaz/saw_a_quetzalcoatl_and_it_was_my_friend_d/

            Reading through this reminds me a lot of a schizophrenic veteran I spoke with at the VA one time, how he talked about the little person watching him through the walls, and how he had powers, etc. They all have a certain manner of communicating that is readily identified. Like mentioning highly subjective feelings as objective truths, or sharing ideas in a way that is incoherent to an external listener.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/drug-psychosis-may-pull-schizophrenia-trigger

            >Substance-induced psychotic disorders, more colloquially referred to as drug-induced psychoses, may represent up to one-quarter of first hospitalizations for psychosis. These persons are often excluded from early psychosis studies, which limits evidence on their prevalence, clinical course, and outcomes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I've personally done acid many times and the first time I did any psychedelic or any drug at all, for that matter, was 10g of mushrooms which remains one of the best experiences of my life.
            Source? Do you have any studies proving this? Without a peer reviewed paper why should i trust your anecdotal evidence anon? I need a source for that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's cute but that's not how it works, anon. You can't "prove" a negative. When my position is that these substances are harmless, then the "proof" is the lack of even the slightest shred of evidence that they cause harm. When you are the one making a positive claim - that lsd can cause instant and permanent psychosis - then the burden of proof is on you, not me. My position is validated by the tens if not hundreds of millions of people who have taken lsd without experiencing any of the effects you claim are so common.

            That said,
            >I need a source for that.
            Here you go:
            >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5813062/
            >In the present study, LSD was not associated with lasting negative effects, as no lasting increases of negative attitudes, negative mood, and negative behavior could be observed after one and 12 months.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            > n = 16
            Whatever dude. You don't have to believe me at all. Listening to you, i have to assume anything not documented by Science TM doesn't even exist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Scientific studies with controlled dosing of properly manufactured drugs are the same as general public taking drugs laced with amphetamines

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If the supposed psychosis caused by "street" LSD is actually being caused by adulterants and not the LSD itself then that sounds like it proves my point. But of course, even use outside of a medical setting has demonstrated no link to any sort of mental health problem:

            >you are the only one who seems to insist what I described is "extremely common"
            I understand that basic statistics are probably beyond your grasp but if one person can name three people he personally knows who have suffered a specific effect then you are either an extreme outlier or that is by definition a common effect.

            >It borders on malicious to promote the idea that LSD is entirely harmless
            And here we have a textbook example of what you referred to as "being disingenuous". At no point did I ever claim that LSD
            >can never, in any case, under any circumstances, lead to negative outcomes in an individual
            and your suggestion that I did is pure dishonesty. All I ever claimed is that LSD is

            >One of the most benign and harmless drugs you could possibly take.
            which, frankly, has been proven beyond any doubt by your simple inability to provide even a single documented case of any harm being caused by LSD. If it's so clearly dangerous, so commonly prone to cause psychosis, then why have you been in this thread for literal days and haven't been able to provide even one example of this harm aside from your own anecdotal claims?

            If I claimed that meth causes tooth decay then I would have a very easy time providing proof. If LSD can so easily cause permanent psychosis, as you have repeatedly claimed, then where is the evidence? You claims about "people you know" are not evidence.

            >the one study you linked has n = 16 participants
            I only linked one because I know how slimy little liars like you operate and no matter how many studies I provide, you'll either ignore them or come up with an excuse to dismiss them. Here, let me demonstrate:
            >https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881114568039
            >A recent large population study of 130,000 adults in the United States failed to find evidence for a link between psychedelic use (lysergic acid diethylamide, psilocybin or mescaline) and mental health problems.

            >>A recent large population study of 130,000 adults in the United States failed to find evidence for a link between psychedelic use (lysergic acid diethylamide, psilocybin or mescaline) and mental health problems.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Taking this totally safe substance manufactured by gangs and cartels, with no quality control is safe because LSD is safe ya dig?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly, I feel bad for OP, that's so hot and as a virgin, I wish that happened to me. My mental faculties be dammed if it means that much sexxo.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          was op getting pegged or was he even more of a homosexual and getting fricked by a troony my money is on the troony

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    (You)

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can still be a web developer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not with how fast generative ai is progressing.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    frequenting this board damages your brain way more than oxygen deprivation

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick.. I think you are onto something.

      https://i.imgur.com/BpZaEmv.png

      >3rd year computer science going great
      >got brain damage from oxygen deprivation
      >back in courses and can't understand 50% of what's happening anymore

      Fortunately we don't need tech to enjoy the best things life has to offer and intelligence is heritable so you can still raise children and give them a good life. Eventually we are all going to decline cognitively with age and we are all going to die. So just make better decisions now and raise your children to make better decisions.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You seem far to be more interested in winning an argument than you are in actually exchanging information. You don't have to believe me, but you're being slightly disingenuous. I established that a psychedelic substance *can* cause psychosis like symptoms, which is relevant. Secondly, you should understand why human studies involving an illegal drug are somewhat limited in scope of what is and isn't permissible.

    Just because it didnt occur in a controlled environment while being formally documented doesn't mean it never happened.

    Another anon shared a study with supporting evidence and you hand waved it away.

    Finally, you are the only one who seems to insist what I described is "extremely common" when I never once stated or even implied that. I know of precisely 3 cases, only 1 which I personally witnessed. That being said, ask around online or explore a bit and you will likely find similar claims here and there. Of course this doesn't meet your standards for evidence, and that's fair. But i promise you i haven't made it up.

    Going into an LSD trip without being properly equipped can definitely be a traumatic experience for some people. Which is really the only point I was ever trying to make. It borders on malicious to promote the idea that LSD is entirely harmless and can never, in any case, under any circumstances, lead to negative outcomes in an individual.

    I'm skeptical that you've actually used LSD and are still promoting such an idea. Thats a startling lack of awarness or empathy. Just because you had only positive experiences, that doesn't mean every single human being will always have positive experiences with LSD. I'm sure you can go to erowid to find more cases of nightmare trips that were deeply disturbing subjectively.

    And as for anecdotal evidence: the one study you linked has n = 16 participants. That isnt such a huge sample size, to be fair .

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you're being slightly disingenuous. I established that a psychedelic substance *can* cause psychosis like symptoms, which is relevant.
      We're discussing a specific claim about a specific substance and in that context, there's nothing more relevant than accuracy regarding what exactly we're discussing. If you said that long term cocaine use commonly causes severe tooth decay, I said it doesn't, and your response was to post a study showing that long term meth use is known to cause severe tooth decay and you claimed that it proved you right about cocaine because
      >they're both stimulants!!!
      then you're the one being disingenuous, not me.

      >Another anon shared a study with supporting evidence
      They did no such thing. If you're referring to

      https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/drug-psychosis-may-pull-schizophrenia-trigger

      >Substance-induced psychotic disorders, more colloquially referred to as drug-induced psychoses, may represent up to one-quarter of first hospitalizations for psychosis. These persons are often excluded from early psychosis studies, which limits evidence on their prevalence, clinical course, and outcomes.

      then yes, I did "hand wave" it because one, it's not a study, just an analysis of other studies and two, it only places drugs into broad categories like "stimulants" and "hallucinogens". At no point did I ever claim that hallucinogens can't cause psychosis. Can PCP completely frick people up? Yes, absolutely. What hallucinogens were studied in this article? Was it mushrooms and LSD or was it ketamine and PCP? I don't know because the study doesn't specify, which makes it completely irrelevant.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I think we both know that you've been desperately googling for some shred of evidence to support your claims
    No, I didn't ever bother. I've been sincere this entire time, but you seem to accuse me of lying which is really bad faith. You could accuse me of being somehow delusional, or unaware, but I don't have any reason to go on the internet and lie to a bunch of anonymous strangers.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're looking for nootropics, stuff like noopept, piracetam, brain nutrition.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Jump ahead 11 years. I'm 20, and I found acid about six months earlier. I'm in Amsterdam, having left South Africa to avoid military service. I'm a musician and making a living playing street music. We're on acid all the time, taking larger and larger doses each time. It's classic. I'm the messiah and I'm going to save the world by turning everyone onto LSD. I'm Ken Kesey, I'm Ram Dass, I'm Neal Cassidy driving the bus to the next Acid Test. I'm on a mission. I have found the ultimate truth, and I believe that I have the ability to express it. It's straight out of the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. I am The Merry Prankster - doing ever increasing doses of LSD because I believe that there is a reality behind this one, and I am going to evolve and become a transformed being - a metamorphosized, evolutionised, mental telepathical Guru. I even have a following. There are 5 of us - and I am the leader. I'm the fricking chosen one. This is why I am alive - this is why I exist - I am the new Messiah!@!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There was a huge flash - and reality had shattered - literally. It was as though everything I had been seeing was made of glass - like a mirror, and the hashish exploded the acid so hard and fast, that I suffered a psychotic break

      >OK - you get the picture. I treated LSD as though it was something that I actually had control over - that I was bigger than Acid - that I was beyond a bad trip. I will end this part of the tale of this day here, but know that it took the rest of the day to reconstruct my *basic* ego - just knowing who and where I was. I still felt broken glass in my throat from where it had shattered when the 'mirror' shattered. I could no longer sing. When I tried I was overwhelmed by an abject terror, and shut down. It was weeks before I could sing again (which I needed to do to survive) - and I continued to have terrifying Flashbacks for the next 6 months.

      Not everyone fully returns to normal afterwards from such a traumatic experience.

      >anecdotes from a very heavy, chronic drug abuser whose worst side effect from mixing "ever increasing doses of LSD" with other drugs was
      >Flashbacks for the next 6 months.

      Does LSD have the potential to cause permanent psychosis, yes or no?
      If yes, do you have any evidence in support of this specific claim?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        goal posts move every time you make a new post. the original ask was have "any harmful outcomes"
        gay

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the original ask was have "any harmful outcomes"
          What's the point of lying about this when we can all read the thread and see where the debate started?

          My original post was a claim that LSD is

          >tfw god directly smites perverts

          [...]
          >lsd
          >drastic
          One of the most benign and harmless drugs you could possibly take. Cigarettes are a hundred times more dangerous.

          >One of the most benign and harmless drugs you could possibly take.
          A claim that, frankly, has only been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt by the inability of anyone in this thread to point to negative side effects past
          >oh well these people who already had serious mental disorders had those disorders flare up when they took LSD
          If your position is that psychedelics can sometimes have "harmful outcomes" then yes, this is true and at no point have I ever tried to deny it. There is no drug that is completely free from any kind of negative side effect. Aspirin has a wide range of potential side effects.

          In any case, the other post that began this debate was the initial response to my claim linked above:

          Kratom is to hard opiods what coffee is to methamphetamine

          But that being said I do think opiods aren't as unhealthy as other hard drugs. Other than withdrawals and stuff they have milder long term effects. Stims by contrast a lot are legitimately neurotoxic to some extent.
          [...]
          You're a redditor acting like nothing bad can ever happen from weed and psychedelics, and if it did happen then "oh well they were predisposed to being with". The issue being no one could ever posssibly know whether or not they were predisposed to mental illness with complete certainty. I had some horrible trips and while there was no lasting negative effects (that I'm conscious of), not everyone bounces back. I personally know of a small handful of cases of people where were doing fine on Tuesday, tried acid on Wednesday, and by Friday morning were wandering around the streets muttering to themselves and still are homeless and lost several years later.

          >I personally know of a small handful of cases of people where were doing fine on Tuesday, tried acid on Wednesday, and by Friday morning were wandering around the streets muttering to themselves and still are homeless and lost several years later.
          That was where we started and I'm still waiting to see any one of you midwit drones provide any evidence of it. But I think it's clear beyond any doubt at this point that there's no proof, we all know there's no proof, and you've long since given up on attempting to provide any, instead trying to focus on limp dick copes like
          >uhhhh well ok maybe LSD has never been shown to cause any kind of permanent harm but some people get really scared after they have a bad trip so it's probably still really bad, i think???

          >goal posts
          Neither I nor any other person with an IQ above room temperature have ever considered anonymous personal anecdotes as evidence of anything and my refusal to consider them as such now is perfectly consistent with my refusal to accept them as such earlier in the thread.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I had a bad reaction to marijuana. Ended up in a psych ward, where i went to voluntarily because i was being extremely suicidal. It all passed but i never fully recovered.
            Brain damage doesnt heal much

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            how many marijuanas did you inject?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You take drugs, we get it homie. Whatever you need to do to convince yourself that you haven't rotted your brain, but your posts here are borderline schizophasic and are doing nothing to help your argument. It's got that uniquely incoherent aggression you see in people like Tooker.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >There was a huge flash - and reality had shattered - literally. It was as though everything I had been seeing was made of glass - like a mirror, and the hashish exploded the acid so hard and fast, that I suffered a psychotic break

    >OK - you get the picture. I treated LSD as though it was something that I actually had control over - that I was bigger than Acid - that I was beyond a bad trip. I will end this part of the tale of this day here, but know that it took the rest of the day to reconstruct my *basic* ego - just knowing who and where I was. I still felt broken glass in my throat from where it had shattered when the 'mirror' shattered. I could no longer sing. When I tried I was overwhelmed by an abject terror, and shut down. It was weeks before I could sing again (which I needed to do to survive) - and I continued to have terrifying Flashbacks for the next 6 months.

    Not everyone fully returns to normal afterwards from such a traumatic experience.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    enjoy re learning everything now

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