A question for codelets- Is this shit even helpful?

A question for codelets- Is this shit even helpful?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can't write reliable code but it can teach you some things and show alternative ways to do things. My most used prompt is probably "<code> is there a better way to do this?" and then it spits out some alternatives

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's sometimes good for lazy prototyping but quickly falls apart when asked to generate anything complex. Almost all usable code I got out of ChatGPT required substantial modification to get working.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same but it was faster than coding everything myself.
      I was porting some opencv stuff to c++ and was getting tired of all the boilerplate.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Useful to have a template and get you started, so you spend more time implementing features and less time dealing with syntax.
    Anything more complex than a copy pasta from his dataset pretty much requires a rewrite.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to speed up research? sure. to write anything on its own (even the simplest thing) - not really, no.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's very useful for learning new stuff, best practices, programming concepts, etc.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It does do decent critiques on your own code sometimes. Like you can be like:

    what problems do you see with this code? Tell me what your thoughts are even if you're unsure. I will carefully check each one myself.

    Then it will give you some decent feedback. I recently used it to write some better DB code (solved many issues with the queries I wrote, provided ways to improve it, etc.)

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it is super help full i wished this existed earlier

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you can start coding in a new language without even knowing its syntax
    but it fails once the difficulty increases and you need to do harder or more obscure stuff
    Docs and exchange are still the only way

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sounds like a disaster for generating unsafe c code. could work for rust tho

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its only useful as an ideas guy when you get stuck on something. Even then the ideas it shits out are often moronic and you think of something better in the process.
    The code it spits out is often dog shit as well for more complex applications.
    Relying on it is midwit behaviour.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like a shitty idea guy.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Was hoping to see some funny opinions by people with zero professional experience, and IQfy always delivers

    What happened man this board used to have some genuinely competent people back in the days

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Webdevs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are correct, it is very limited.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How is everyome using this or others like claude in their workflow? Honestly I feel like everytime I use it im wrestling with it to give me better or usable output. So far it hasn't really been a productivity booster for me. Most of the work I do is changes to a large existing codebase. I tried copilot which had pretty good suggestions in vscode but not $10/month good. I have a CTO that is really pushing its use and that ide cursor for productivity but i know for a fact he only works on little demo app, not an actual large complex code base.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can code. Just don't expect it to write good code, that doesn't waste CPU cycles.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use copilot but it should be similar
    There are some things it can make relatively reliably
    >Boilerplate
    >Simple code
    >Commonly written code
    It has enough context awareness to change whatever it had in its training data to fit in your code with minimal hand holding.

    However when writing obscure or complex code, the auto complete is more of a hindrance as there is a 0% chance it'll produce anything useful, so I turn it off, but for most programming it's useful.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of things that I get from LLMs ain't good and oftentimes is confidently wrong and incorrect; thus, making me to double check most of the responses.
    For something common and trivial it can sometimes give a decent response, but anything that isn't trivial or widely used/available causes it to miserably fail (it generates buggy or straight up moronic code, uses non-existent fictional APIs, outputs gibberish, and so on).
    For me it only works as a rubber-duck. Maybe for webshitters who only glue popular APIs and chain boilerplate code that was done gazillions of times before them it can do better though.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i find asking copilot questions to troubleshoot more efficient than googling, but you still end up wasting some time going down rabbitholes before you find the real problem
    autocomplete is nice when i need boilerplate or can't remember a function's signature exactly, but i hate when it suggests a huge block of code because it's distracting and seeing its solution (which may or may not work) sort of pollutes your thought process.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its useful for just get something generic started and saves you some copy paste from stackoverflow. That's3 pretty much it.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unbeknownst to him

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes I use it all the time to do anything. I'm not a coder but I can easily create automation tools with this shit.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t use it for code generation at all
    I ask it what’s wrong with my code based on a pasted-in error message and it’s usually better than Googling if there’s a personal string in there like a full path to a file with my username right in the middle of the error message
    Sometimes it can tell me what’s wrong
    Sometimes it has ideas that are good to explore to fix the error
    Sometimes it’s useless

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've literally replaced myself with chatgpt and neither my boss nor my wife has noticed
    thanks chatgpt

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ...shouldn't you worry about being replaced if that is true? How long can you keep hiding?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It once helped me come up with a solution to update multiple rows in a SQLite table when I couldn't find resources anywhere else on how to accomplish that. But this was after probably 20 times of getting other garbage hallucinated responses that didn't work.

    Thoughever the solution seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Thoughever the solution seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.
      Yeah...? Maybe you had some other requirements but UPDATE ... WHERE (condition matching the rows)

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. It's only useful for those that can't code, because it can only do basic (commonly solved) shit. But it will write a lot of incorrect code, which will be hard for noobs to debug. And then because of the chat format, it will gaslight a ton and never listen to your corrections. If it doesn't get it right first try, just give up on that convo.

    Copilot, though, is very much useful. It can autocomplete for you, copies your patterns and is much more "intelligent" because of the completion format, rather than conversational.
    Actually all LLMs do is text completion, guessing text word, including openAIs "chat models", so it makes sense.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are simply gimping yourself if you don't use it at some level, it is at worst vastly superior to traditional search engines and can provide accurate code depending on prompts and context window provided. But most of the time you should expect something in between and adjust your expectations and treat it as conversation partner.

    Problem is of course that current implementations of it even with the increased context something like Github Copilot or Cursor provides is not sufficient in a larger project, there are simply too many complex interactions happening for it to pick up on and combined with it's high confidence it will generate inaccurate code that will generally not be usable or requires debugging. But this is obviously an artificial limitation of the model as presented to consumers, if the next generation of models have an order of magnitude higher context than current ones it would be used everywhere by everyone.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its value as a tool in my daily job is constantly increasing
    but honestly, this is not because it got any better since gpt3.5, it's because google is turning their search into a SEO-circlejerk that, at this rate, will become completely irrelevant within the next 2 years. (i guess deliberately, to sell their own AI as replacement)

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