Abortion is murder. Meat-diets are slaughter (unless you wait for animals to naturally die). Veganism is plant genocide.

Abortion is murder. Meat-diets are slaughter (unless you wait for animals to naturally die). Veganism is plant genocide. Yet all of these are morally sound because killing isn’t necessarily evil.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >killing isn’t necessarily evil.
    It is though, all life is holy. Now I am not vegan because meat is so yummy but still vegans are right.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      So self defense is wrong?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        That is a thing some religions believe btw

        Is abortion really morally sound unless its rape? Why is killing to dodge the responsability of your own actions good? I agree in case of abuse it would be readonable to justify it, but for fun?

        Yes.
        >why
        because it's good not to be forced to raise something
        >but for fun
        It's better than the alternative which is a poorly raised child that then goes on to murder, rape, or abuse.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >all life is holy
      >let me just mass murder plants and destroy ecosystems for my avocado
      great

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The act of killing is not evil. It is who is killed, why they are killed and the method of their killing that determines if it is.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You call abortion morally sound, yet you put it under the word "murder". You could not have called it that from a legal standpoint because legally not all abortions are murder. So you must have called it murder from a moral standpoint(To unjustly kill).

    So already you are contradicting yourself.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Veganism is plant genocide.

    plants and fetuses do not have brains while animals and humans do. brains are the only things that amtter

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      If brains are the ONLY thing that matters then inferior brains are worth less. Like this dumb frick cow's tiny micro brain in OP.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        brains can suffer, including the brains of cows. plants cannot

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Plants don't have a nervous system, so killing them is painless. The other two are objectively murder though, and people who participate in abortion and or carnism deserve to be arrested.

      >muh brains
      >muh nervous system
      small-minded anthropocentric hubris

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s not immoral cuz plants don’t feel pain!
        >they can’t feel pain without a nervous system!
        Bold of you to presume a nervous system is needed to feel pain. You’re mindlessly regurgitating liberal guilt-assuaging science.

        >Plants literally have no way of feeling pain
        unscientific garbage, cretin

        >they dont have brains so its not a murder
        great argument there moroninho

        if i write a program that prints out "ow" every time I click, does it feel pain? Because that's about as advanced as "pain" is in plants. You people keep talking about science but no botanists or brain scientists will ever say plant "pain" is equivalent to suffering a mammal or bird can experience.

        suffering is a specific brain function, not just reaction to damage, and most mammals, at the very least, experience it. This is why anti depressants are tested on rats - because the same brain processes that manage suffering in humans also manage suffering in rats

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          >muh brains
          >muh nervous system
          small-minded anthropocentric hubris

          >it’s not immoral cuz plants don’t feel pain!
          >they can’t feel pain without a nervous system!
          Bold of you to presume a nervous system is needed to feel pain. You’re mindlessly regurgitating liberal guilt-assuaging science.

          >Plants literally have no way of feeling pain
          unscientific garbage, cretin

          >they dont have brains so its not a murder
          great argument there moroninho

          it's an irrelevant point to begin with because even if you were concerned with plant suffering, eating meat only increases plant suffering, as livestock eat massive amounts of plants

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is abortion really morally sound unless its rape? Why is killing to dodge the responsability of your own actions good? I agree in case of abuse it would be readonable to justify it, but for fun?

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Veganism isn’t sound not from a moral viewpoint but rather because it shirks all of the advancements in our understanding of diet and how to heat healthy (the food pyramid). Eating weeds and fruits is for animals not man.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Yet all of these are morally sound because killing isn’t necessarily evil.
    Based. In some cases it is called justice.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Plants don't have a nervous system, so killing them is painless. The other two are objectively murder though, and people who participate in abortion and or carnism deserve to be arrested.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >plants don't have a nervous system
      so? your argument that killing them is morally sound relies only on the fact they are dissimilar to us in that one regard. even if you think killing plants is painless (now how could you know that i do not know), then going by that quantifier I would be perfectly moral in adding a lethal dose of valium to your next drink and waiting until you forget how to breathe (stunning animals IS painless THOUGH)

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s not immoral cuz plants don’t feel pain!
        >they can’t feel pain without a nervous system!
        Bold of you to presume a nervous system is needed to feel pain. You’re mindlessly regurgitating liberal guilt-assuaging science.

        Plants literally have no way of feeling pain, you worthless, brain-dead cretins. But what's worse about your moronic argument is that you're arguing it from a place of bad faith. Both of you eat meat, which necessarily involves pain and killing (and stunning itself causes massive amounts of pain, moron). You don't actually care about this topic, you just want to get a gotcha like a fricking redditor.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >vegasöyman
          >MUH HECKIN COWERINOS
          >accusing anyone of being reddit
          holy kek

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Plants literally have no way of feeling pain
          unscientific garbage, cretin

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >they dont have brains so its not a murder
          great argument there moroninho

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it’s not immoral cuz plants don’t feel pain!
      >they can’t feel pain without a nervous system!
      Bold of you to presume a nervous system is needed to feel pain. You’re mindlessly regurgitating liberal guilt-assuaging science.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    does it matter whether or not an animal or plant feels pain? I feel like that’s irrelevant to the debate of if life is ‘sacred’ or not. is having a specific kind of nervous system that important?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That depends. Do you think suffering is bad? Practically everybody does. Therefore, whether or not you are causing another creature suffering is very relevant when discussing morality.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Experiencing suffering is bad
        Causing suffering is irrelevant

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    All female animals deserve slaughter

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just OK with death. Mortality doesn't bother me.

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