Advanced Asia

In the late 18th century many parts of Asia were still more advanced than some of the wealthiest white countries:

"The region of Dhaka had a large shipbuilding industry which supplied the Mughal Navy. The shipbuilding output of Bengal during the 16th and 17th centuries stood at 223,250 tons annually, compared to 23,061 tons produced by North America from 1769 to 1771."

Indrajit Ray (2011). Bengal Industries and the British Industrial Revolution (1757-1857).

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better quality

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pics unrelated??

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both in the Indian subcontinent and in Asia

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Asia was civilized before Anglo arrived.
    More news at 11.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your post isn’t about europe it’s about North America which was a backwater until the 19th century

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This
      It's why the British focused their efforts on India rather than reconquering the US

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        East India company became huge because one ass hat decided to yolo it.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looks like something off from constantinople

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WE WERENT COMPLETE SAVAGES WITH A TWO THOUSAND YEAR HEAD START, THE MOST FERTILE LANDS OF THE PLANET, GIANT RIVERS AND HUNDREDS OF NATURAL RESOURCES THAT EVERYONE WANTED TO TRADE
    well... congratulations I guess, this makes your defeat look even worse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      humans have existed anywhere from 200-300 thousand years, and arguing about less than a percent of that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because we have no idea about and no relation with what has happened before.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >humans have existed anywhere from 200-300 thousand years, and arguing about less than a percent of that
        Holy shit you're such a subhuman. This was only this was only 20000 years ago. Please kys and never post again lying subhuman pajeet.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That might excuse Europe and North America, and South America wasn't inhabited anyway, but you expect me to believe humans in Africa or South Asia lived like, well, cavemen for 300k years just because the temperature was maybe 2°C colder if not warmer?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why copare it to north america?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Indrajit Ray (2011)
    yes yes you also had spaceships and lasers, we get it sar

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hes a respected scholar you’re a nobody

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Small

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Small? can you not see how small the people are at the entrance? its gigantic, genius engineering of Indians

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's 104,8 m tall. That's laughable. Europe has 66 churches that are higher.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >104 meters
          >small
          That's huge anon you're moronic. Its comparable to some of the taller european churches from the time

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As stated above there are 66 that are taller.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_church_buildings

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are all of these 16th century and pre 16th century? If not you're a moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Construction techniques only really improved in 20th century so it's irrelevant.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are like 50 barely known churches in Europe, all of which are taller.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anyway it's just bunch of hand carved rocks. While impressive they don't move civilization forward.
            Prior to 15th century Europe absorbed Asian innovations, not doing much by themselves to advance civilization (but adoption is achievement by itself too)
            17th century? It's Europe that does all scientific and technological breakthroughs while rest of the world is shuffling old rocks

            >were still more advanced than some of the wealthiest white countries:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_chronometer
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sextant
            https://janverbruggen.com/the-technical-significance/
            https://gracesguide.co.uk/Vaucanson's_Lathe

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Anyway it's just bunch of hand carved rocks
            No it isn't it's a stone building just like any in Europe. Do you think it was carved out of a mountain or something? are you moronic? its not one of them, we have heaps of those in india but its not them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The blanket statement "absorbed Asian innovations" is really too generous and vague imo. As a math student the biggest one I can personally think of -- other than preserving Greek and Roman writings (i.e. European) -- was Indian numerals. Much was done independently. For example the Pythagorean Theorem was discovered independently multiple times, and Taylor series for trig functions were independently discovered in the Kerala Indian school, and also in Europe (multiple times).

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >As a math student the biggest one I can personally think of -- other than preserving Greek and Roman writings (i.e. European) -- was Indian numerals.
            It's huge one, you simply cannot move math forward if you stuck with the Roman numerals.

            Another important innovations: horse shoe and horse collar that massively improved draft animals effienceny and laid base for agriculture and transportation efficiency growth. Without that base you can't relieve people from agriculture to work in industry and science. But these horse related breakthroughs are forgotten today because horsies are history themselves.

            And of course king of all inventions, gunpowder. That tied military power to industrial output. Finally civilization started to produce serious military dividends.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >In South India the Neolithic began after 3000 BCE and lasted until around 1000 BCE.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how did a couple hundred brits manage to reduce these people to shitting in the street?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >were still more advanced than some of the wealthiest white countries:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_chronometer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sextant
    https://janverbruggen.com/the-technical-significance/
    https://gracesguide.co.uk/Vaucanson's_Lathe

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point in all that bulk when the euro ships would utterly wreck 10- 20 times their numbers?

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >16th century building
    ???
    You can find hundreds of those all over Europe, and many far older and far more majestic. And that's while Europe as a whole has always had a substantially lower population than India or China.
    Oh wow, humanoids outside of Europe weren't complete savages everywhere and did at least a few stuff. TIL I guess

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    India population in 18th century: ~220 million
    USA pop in 1770: 2,148,076
    Considering that America also had less dense population centers which made large scale production harder and still produce more technologically advanced ships I'd actually say white people win that also.
    >Inb4 what about the rest of the continent
    Canada was empty, Mexico core is beind mountains from both sides and Caribbean were only used as slave plantations so all of their shipbuilding numbers are redundant. Also they were colonies so they weren't really supposed to produce anything other than raw resources.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gavana and Bermuda were major shipbuilding centers, stop talking outta your ass, it’s embarrassing

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry, but I just didn't want to look for censuses.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bengal had a population of between 30 and 40 million, but still it is lower.

      >Bengal
      7441 tons of shipping per year

      >America
      10736

      Consider that at this time most of America's ships were built in Britain. Also Indrajit Ray is an Indian nationalist known for using skewed figures, like the claim that the British stole the industrial revolution and $45 trillion from India.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        False numbers mine are accurate

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >7441
        Huh? Didn't you read? it's almost 2234000 tons

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and what happened since then?
    oh thats right communism took over.......

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