Afterlife

How confident can we be that there is an afterlife? Logically it doesn't make sense for there not to be, but we can't be 100% sure, right? How does one deal with the anxiety that causes?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Plenty of people have died and yet life continues, ergo there's life after death.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can’t by definition since nobody can testify to it
    NDEs are explain by physical causes

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What about the blind woman who could see during NDE?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Blind people can dream in visual images

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Logically it doesn't make sense for there not to be,

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >works cited
      You realize you can just directly make philosophical arguments right?
      And it doesn't make sense. Nothing else in the universe can be destroyed, why is consciousness any different? If you believe consciousness is purely physical then an afterlife is absurd, but consciousness cannot be purely physical

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The law implies that mass can neither be created nor destroyed, although it may be rearranged in space, or the entities associated with it may be changed in form.
        >Neither be CREATED nor destroyed

        Your intuition is already fricked, right out of the gate.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, and you assume that consciousness is a material process. If it's a material process it shouldn't that it exists at all. But it does exist, thus it is not a material process.
          Now obviously that doesn't apply to God, who creates our souls. Or maybe our souls are eternal.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No I don't, but apparently (You) think it is analogous. I just don't see anything illogical about the cessation of individual consciousness.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No I don't
            Then you're purely agnostic on the question? I guess I can respect that

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, fren.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but consciousness cannot be purely physical
        why?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't make sense that there would be one point at which consciousness would pop into existence as a result of physical processes, as consciousness is binary and progress only happens incrementally. The idea of consciousness as a soul is more consistent

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >as consciousness is binary
            Debatable

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not nothing that can't be destroyed it's matter dumbass. You can destroy an object. I could destroy a hammer and there could never be that same hammer again but the matter is still there.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You realize you can just directly make philosophical arguments right?
        Like your book said it thus it must be true? lol
        >And it doesn't make sense. Nothing else in the universe can be destroyed, why is consciousness any different?
        Lol. Yes anon. You die, you rot, you become dirt.
        Notice how none of that involves an afterlife?

        What about the blind woman who could see during NDE?

        >What about the blind woman who could see during NDE?
        Lol, Near Death Experiences, Hallucinations of brains deprived of glucose and oxygen.

        It doesn't make sense that there would be one point at which consciousness would pop into existence as a result of physical processes, as consciousness is binary and progress only happens incrementally. The idea of consciousness as a soul is more consistent

        >It doesn't make sense that there would be one point at which consciousness would pop into existence as a result of physical processes
        Not a binary thing at all and there is abundant proof that Birds and Mammals aside from from humans possess varying degrees of self-awareness. However it seems that reptiles, amphibians, invertebrates, plants etc aren't aware.

        I have no anxiety. I know there is an afterlife. I almost get worried of going to hell, but I can't worry when I know everything that happens to me is for my own good. Of course I will not do what Satan suggests if I can avoid, because I don't want to end in hell with him. Hell is disgusting. Disgusting. Think about it. What could that mean? wienerroaches entering your mouth and other orifices? What could that mean?

        You are proof that christianity is for mentally ill people.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to discuss this outside of the "realm of religion"
    then, an afterlife existing is predicated on whether or not the consciousness exists outside of/distinct from the material body.
    similarly to how the bones are distinct from the body as a whole; when the body dies, the bones remain; if consciousness is distinct from the body/brain, then there is a possibility*** that it would persist after bodily death.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >when the body dies, the bones remain;
      For a while. Bones decompose after 20 years in fertile soils.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Very convenient that animals that instinctually fear death get to live forever even after we start rotting. We sure got lucky.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      If we're just animals we shouldn't have consciousness at all

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very convenient that said animals cease fearing death, despite death apparently being the ultimate game over.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The afterlife is the bodily resurrection on judgement day.

    The idea of the eternal soul getting judged by St. Peter upon death and sent heaven or hell is heretical and pagan. The idea of the soul temporarily residing in heaven until judgement day is syncretic and pagan.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have no anxiety. I know there is an afterlife. I almost get worried of going to hell, but I can't worry when I know everything that happens to me is for my own good. Of course I will not do what Satan suggests if I can avoid, because I don't want to end in hell with him. Hell is disgusting. Disgusting. Think about it. What could that mean? wienerroaches entering your mouth and other orifices? What could that mean?

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Great video on the subject.

    (Skip to 1:06:17)

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How confident can we be that there is an afterlife?
    Not confident at all. If everyone was confident in an afterlife, then everyone would be religious, nobody would fear death, and we would not live as though things have mortal consequences, we do not, thus nobody is confident that there is an afterlife, and that includes you OP
    > Logically it doesn't make sense for there not to be
    No it doesn't
    >How does one deal with the anxiety that causes?
    Realize that the world continues after you're gone. Thats where I find comfort in dealing with death

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Appeal to popularity fallacy

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing we can be sure about is that we have a life in the here and now.
    To put much stake into the idea of an afterlife is rather inane.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The way I see it it's a win regardless. World can be kind of crap. If nothing no problems. If heaven fantastic. The world is just a battlefield we struggle to make less crap.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Death is nothingness. This can be tested by a thought experiment that should have naturally occured to any child above 120 IQ:
    Start with your current state of concsiousness, as you presently are.
    Remove your eyes (can't see). Remove your ears (can't hear).
    Sever spine (can't move or feel your body).
    Bonk on head with hammer over and over again (lose capacity for complex thought, memory, eventually becoming totally unresponsive to external stimuli)

    Now youre telling me, from this state, the person that once was will somehow blossom into an experientally rich state of being that transcends everything we've known before? Sry but i think a state of oblivion is the more reasonable to assume here

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Logically it doesn't make sense for there not to be
    troll.

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