Are humans actually supposed to eat salt?

Are humans actually supposed to eat salt?
>A colony of 26 chimpanzees given a fruit and vegetable diet of very low Na and high K intake were maintained in long-standing, socially stable small groups for three years. Half of them had salt added progressively to their diet during 20 months. This addition of salt within the human dietetic range caused a highly significant rise in systolic, mean and diastolic blood pressure. The change reversed completely by six months after cessation of salt. The effect of salt differed between chimpanzees, some having a large blood pressure rise and others small or no rise. These results in the species phylogenetically closest to humans bear directly on causation of human hypertension, particularly in relation to migration of preliterate people, with low Na diet, to a Western urban lifestyle with increased salt intake. The hedonic liking for salt and avid ingestion was apt during human prehistory involving hunter-gatherer-scavenger existence in the interior of continents with a scarcity of salt, but is maladaptive in urban technological life with salt cheap and freely available.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you need the sodium ions man for your nervous system

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Eating fruit, vegetables, grain, meat and fish is not enough? Why the monkeys can function without added salt?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        chimpanzees divine their sodium ions from the ape God by making banana circles every full moon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, i just know most if not all creaters seek out salt when they can get it.
        >raindeer will lick up human piss to get the salt in it, elephants will travel hundreds of miles to chew on salt in caves.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Humans are meat eaters and meat already has enough salt in it.

          https://i.imgur.com/Q18ouJj.jpeg

          Are humans actually supposed to eat salt?
          >A colony of 26 chimpanzees given a fruit and vegetable diet of very low Na and high K intake were maintained in long-standing, socially stable small groups for three years. Half of them had salt added progressively to their diet during 20 months. This addition of salt within the human dietetic range caused a highly significant rise in systolic, mean and diastolic blood pressure. The change reversed completely by six months after cessation of salt. The effect of salt differed between chimpanzees, some having a large blood pressure rise and others small or no rise. These results in the species phylogenetically closest to humans bear directly on causation of human hypertension, particularly in relation to migration of preliterate people, with low Na diet, to a Western urban lifestyle with increased salt intake. The hedonic liking for salt and avid ingestion was apt during human prehistory involving hunter-gatherer-scavenger existence in the interior of continents with a scarcity of salt, but is maladaptive in urban technological life with salt cheap and freely available.

          anon why would you think culinary traditions have anything to do with what we're supposed to eat? we mainly evolved to eat fatty meat of large game raw. that doesn't mean it tastes better than a heavily salted seared steak to most people.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what about our water sources?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >we mainly evolved to eat fatty meat of large game raw.
            I doubt the "raw" part. Anatomically modern humans came after cooking was developed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            did we invent stone tools or fire first?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            earth was invented as follows:
            1) fire,
            2) stone tools,
            3) america.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stone tools came before anatomically modern humans

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They have different digestive system I guess

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        fpbp

        Depends on what you're eating. Meat and fish have salt because animals need salt. Fruits and veggies don't have as much, but there is still some in them. Elephants need to eat dirt or lick the walls of caves or rocks to get their salt. So unless your herbivores are eating salty plants, they'll prob often get their salt from non-living mineral sources, including salt water.

        For people. lots of places weren't next to a salt source like saltwater, so intrinsically lots of places didn't need to extract salt from anywhere other than food. Salt was a good trade product though for flavour, but we're talking bout early early people who didn't need it. Some guy took his kids into the woods and never showed them the outside world and the boys never met a girl before, and when outside people found them, the father mentioned that he missed added salt, so they were surviving without it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Chimps dont sweat nearly as much as humans
        Sweating is a majot sodium ion sink and even with little physical activity you sweat quite a lot compared to most animals

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >licking up sweaty musclegirl abs scientifically proven to be good for you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            up sweaty musclegirl abs scientifically proven to be good for you
            t. Closeted homosexual autistic IQfyner masochist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he wouldn't want IQfy gf
            >calls others homosexual

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >wants a gf with the physique of a man.
            >somehow doesn't understand how that's gay.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >visible muscles =male
            Fat burger sausage fingers typed this post

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            girls having muscles doesn't make them men any more than your breasts make you a woman.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            having low enough bodyfat for a woman to have visible abs means her bodyfat is too low to be a healthy physiology

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            okay, and a woman having enough bodyfat for huge breasts and a fat ass is also unhealthy but some people still find it attractive. would you also call their sexualities into question?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I would, anyone attracted to obese women isn't straight.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            understood, you have your own personal definitions for words and expect others to conform to them. good luck with that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Say that to the man who carved the Venus of Willendorf

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's a theory it is a self portrait by a woman. Explains the proportions, of a woman looking down at her own body.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            True, but that isn't what female muscles look like.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            visible horizontal lines is just too much for me broski

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Eating enough meat will get you close. Eating most fruits, vegetables, and grain will absolutely make you deficient unless you're supplementing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Give a monkey a salt shaker with his fruit and you have made an addict. Happened to me. Love me some salt on my fruit. Am monkey. Am hypertensive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't use salt, my sodium intake is less than 500mg/day, at times less than 100mg. No negative side effects. These days I enjoy some olives which puts me around 500mg again.
        The strangest thing is, the more sodium I add the more muscle cramps I get. I think salt fricks with you, but damn does it do magic on food sometimes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          if salt gives you cramps then you are potassium deficient.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Salt might have been an early way to shut down your neocortex. People probably used to take salt as a mind altering drug, but most people have become immune since then.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Salt might have been an early way to shut down your neocortex. People probably used to take salt as a mind altering drug, but most people have become immune since then.
        Take your schizo pills anon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          shh, he plays the druid in this thread.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ahahaa

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            wat

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >These results in the species phylogenetically closest to humans bear directly on causation of human hypertension
    not unless chimps also have inhibited urease as humans do, I think we got it 15mya when did chimps split?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Urease is used by inferior life forms. Vertebrate don't have it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You are wrong, really wrong

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I had hyponatremia one time
    Humans definitely need salt

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Are humans actually supposed to eat salt
    yes

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >taste my sweat
    >hmm tastes like salt
    >"hey Siri, can you reabsorb salt through the skin?"
    >no
    >guess I need to eat salt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thank God that siri was there for you

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This might shock you guys but humans aren't chimpanzees.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't recommend seizures for the average man.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I tried a low salt diet once as an experiment. I followed the AHA guidelines to limit my salt intake to 1500mg or less. It lowered my blood pressure so much that I couldn't really do leg day at the gym because squats and deadlifts would make me lightheaded. Then one day, I woke up late for work and I jumped out of bed, and the rapid change from laying to standing caused me to pass out and I smacked my head into the mirror in my room and broke it. After that I decided that low salt is unhealthy and a scam no matter what some homosexual doctor says.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know if I'm supposed to but I fricking love it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Me too, I once ate a big bowl of salt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Me too, I once ate a big bowl of salt

      I dip orange slices in salt

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do we not taste it bitter then

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If it's coming from same science that dose rats 30mg/kg meth to prove it's neurotoxic, I will start eating salt.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >supposed
    some shit works
    some doesn't
    theres no intent, purpose or any of that shit
    eating salt works it prevents natrium defficiency

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How much water does a chimp drink?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Are humans actually supposed to eat salt?
    Yes, especially if you exercise frequently and sweat. Many athletes have actually died from low salt.

    "In chronic hyponatremia, sodium levels drop gradually over 48 hours or longer — and symptoms and complications are typically more moderate. In acute hyponatremia, sodium levels drop rapidly — resulting in potentially dangerous effects, such as rapid brain swelling, which can result in a coma and death."
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hyponatremia/symptoms-causes/syc-20373711

    If you're sedentary or never sweat and eat meat. You should get enough salt from your food. So it's not as simple as "should I ever add salt to my food!"

    In fact, Bruce Lee most likely died from hyponatremia
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9664576/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_marathon_fatalities
    The most frequent causes of death during marathon are:

    (1) sudden cardiac death, triggered by a congenital or acquired heart disorder;
    (2) exercise-associated hyponatremia or other electrolyte imbalance;
    (3) exertional heat stroke or severe hyperthermia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise-associated_hyponatremia

    "Humans have a uniquely high density of sweat glands embedded in their skin—10 times the density of chimpanzees and macaques."
    https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/news-releases/2021/april/the-chillest-ape-how-humans-evolved-a-super-high-cooling-capacity#:~:text=PHILADELPHIA%E2%80%94%20Humans%20have%20a%20uniquely,density%20of%20chimpanzees%20and%20macaques.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This sums up the trouble with science and the general public.
      Most science, especially that concerned with medicine and nutrition is conditional and requires taking into consideration a variety of factors and context.
      The general public is too fricking stupid to understand that. Anything longer than one sentence is "TLDR" and too many words with more than two syllables confuses them.

      They just want simple answers as befits their simple peasant-like minds.
      >Should I eat salt, yes or no!?!?!?!!?!
      Absolute frickwits deserve whatever health problems they get.

      Why yes, I do despise stupid people, how did you guess?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I recently bought sodium, magnesium, and phosphorus salts for electrolyte mixes to add to my water because it's getting warm again and I'd rather not collapse of heat exhaustion doing my work.

  17. 1 month ago
    Cult of Passion

    Just let me enjoy thiiiiiiings!!!!

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chimpanzees are not humans. Glad I could help clear this up for you, anon.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This experiment tells you nothing about the effect of dietary sodium in humans, it only tells you how dietary sodium affects Chimpanzees.
    Why not do the experiment in humans?
    Chimpanzees don't sweat as much as humans do. No animal sweats as much as humans do, not even horses.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >No animal sweats as much as humans do, not even horses.
      I wonder why that is.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The human ability to sweat gallons per day under extreme circumstances is unique in the animal kingdom. Even horses don't have sweat quite like ours, theirs has a much higher proportion of lipids whereas human sweat is virtually all water.
        It's not that sweating wouldn't be useful to other animals either - all over the animal kingdom we can find examples of animals developing other physiological or behavioural adaptations to cooling down. Panting, submerging in water, simply avoiding the sun during the hottest part of the day, etc.
        For sweat to be an efficient method of cooling, it needs to be able to evaporate from your body, so unless you are bald or have extremely short/fine hair, sweating won't do you much good.
        Sweaty apes could move around the African savannah during even the hottest hours.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, maybe we evolved it to get rid of the ridiculous amounts of salt that we eat.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe, but it's much easier to just not eat so much salt, and if you can't help eating so much salt, it's easier to just urinate out the excess.
            Most of the "work" your kidneys do is reabsorbing the electrolytes from your blood so that they are not lost. With an excess of salt in your diet, your kidneys simply do less work, expend less energy, in reabsorption.
            It seems unlikely that humans would become bald and sweaty as a solution to eating a lot of salt. It's a huge morphological shift from our ape relatives, which seems to have gone hand in hand with our shift to bipedalism and tool use.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The desire to eat salt doesn't seem to have any relation to its amount in the body.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Consume zero salt for 48 hours whilst exercising, using saunas, etc, and see if you still believe that.

            >It seems unlikely that humans would become bald
            Human also have more hair follicles per square inch of skin than apes. We are hairier than apes.

            Sure, but that's because hair follicles are closely coupled with sweat glands. If you want to be able to sweat a lot, you need lots of follicles. Our tiny, stunted body hair serves as a wick to help sweat evaporate more easily. More hair follicles does not = hairier.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >more hair follicles = more sweat
            OMGosh, you cracked the code. Rock star level science right there, Anon. You should publish.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            But only in humans, anon. Other animals with just as many, or more, follicles don't sweat like humans do, and thus don't have the same salt requirement.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Now science tells us we're wrong once again? Why, oh why, do we keep listening to nature?
            The future is machine. Machines with no hair follicles and lots of greasyschmutz excretion glands.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Consume zero salt for 48 hours whilst exercising, using saunas, etc, and see if you still believe that.
            I tried for half a year, actually. In fact it made me hate salt, I would continue for the rest of my life, if it wasn't impractical.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It seems unlikely that humans would become bald
            Human also have more hair follicles per square inch of skin than apes. We are hairier than apes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I wonder why that is.
        Anxiety, mostly due to unrealistic ideals set by social media.

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