Are Muslims more prone to autism or something?

I've spoken to a good many Muslims, and it seems like a staggeringly high amount of them don't understand the idea that someone can be intellectually honest, have the same data the Muslim has, and still not find Islam convincing. This reminds me of how autists, myself included, often struggle with theory of mind.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they're fully aware of the dissonance of their religion but are just very well versed at hiding it. They're interesting in converting others because it increases the power of all muslims not because they give a shit about Allah or anything like that.
    I had muslims tell me that they drink at night because Allah cant see them, I hope they were joking and its just a LARP

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Right, exactly. It's all an abstraction for nation and race.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was a distant friend of a muslim who defended his religion right before getting spitroasted by 2 old men in a gay bathouse. He was raised muslim and fully recognized it would be rightful by islam to cave his head in with stones, but somehow still defended islam and mohammed.

      https://i.imgur.com/XQ1Svd9.jpg

      I've spoken to a good many Muslims, and it seems like a staggeringly high amount of them don't understand the idea that someone can be intellectually honest, have the same data the Muslim has, and still not find Islam convincing. This reminds me of how autists, myself included, often struggle with theory of mind.

      Damn how did muslim sentiment here change? Last time I checked any thread remotely involving the middle east there was 1/3 muslim apologists who kept coming back every time they got btfod, muslims get infinite oil, and gold from that african muslim king yet somehow squandered it all because of how braindead and inbred they all are. Muslims can just explain that its in their religion to molest children and get off with light sentencing, it just baffles me.

      Must be due to the israeli war. Their game plan spoken by them is that we need to intervene by taking all the refugees so they may have the land without conflict.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        only idiots are convinced by anecdotes

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No they actually believe in their religion.
    If they aren't convinced of the fallacies it means you're not bringing valid fallacies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >No they actually believe in their religion.
      So? There are plenty of things I'm convinced of but that I can see why people take differing views, or at least I can understand that while their reasoning is flawed, they're not being willfully ignorant. It's possible to believe something, even strongly,while still being able to put yourself in the heads of people who disagree.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think you're wrong
    A Muslim is never going to admit the situation that you've described
    If you don't think Islam is true or you think that Islam is a terrible religion, you just need to read the Quran
    If you don't think Islam is true or you think that Islam is a terrible religion and you've read the Quran, you clearly can't understand it because you need to read it in Arabic, translations aren't the real Quran
    If you've done the above and yet you still think Islam is false, you need to read the books of Hadith and Tafsir so that you can actually understand it
    Finally if you've done all of the above and still persist in your disbelief it's your fault, you needed to be raised with the Arabic language, etc
    I think this is the result of having a religion which doesn't have the doctrine of total depravity or the holy spirit
    A protestant christian can go through the above but then claim that the person clearly didn't have the holy spirit with them and so that's why they don't believe, they weren't predestined
    Meanwhile in Islam, the truths of Islam are accessible to everyone and thus a reasonable person should be moved to 'revert'

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Muslims say the Quran is beautiful and poetic in the original Arabic. Is it true or just a cope? Because in the English translation it's just really boring to read.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's poetry but Muhammad wasn't a good poet. It's very turgid and stilted. What little we know of pre-Islamic Arabic poetry is leagues better in ever way. But, y'know, Muhammad wasn't a professional poet so it's sort of understandable why it's not very good.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Apparently it's not that it's particularly beautiful, but that it doesn't conform to regular arabic poetry styles.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You have to understand that for a Muslim, the Quran being supernaturally beautiful and poetic is a core tenant of their religion
        A faithful Muslim literally has to accept this as true because the Quran itself provides itself as a miracle
        How could a mere man have created such a beautiful book? If you think the Quran is false then try to produce even one chapter that is like a chapter in the Quran

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When I listened to it the Arabic was read first and then the English translation. I was almost worried going in because Muslims go on and on and on about how beautiful it is and I was almost worried maybe I would like it that much too
        But it wasn't. I could tell it was musical but it sounded like some random folk song you'd hear walking around or at a funeral. I've heard regular music that was so wonderful that it seemed hard to believe a human could make it before - the Koran didn't even evoke that. I started to kinda make fun of it because to my non-Arabic speaking ears it sounded like
        "abaaaaaaaaaa amanaabaaaaa bambudiey. Amaaaaa badudadaaaaa babudaaaa amanalaleeeeeeey. Amanalaley amanalaleeeeeeeey baba dada duda da da, da da baba duda duda amanalaleeeeeeey"
        over and over and over

        So no, going just from the aesthetics of the words themselves, absolutely nothing special. I got pretty sick of it pretty quick.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Every aspect of their religion is pretty much programmed to hold their believers by it and kill all those who doubt it.

    There are muslims resigning from religion but it is a more more rare occurance than other religions.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    muslims are so fricking annoying
    their insistent ignorant arrogance is probably the most insulting thing about them

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Muslims are essentially brainwashed into a mass cult. It’s often less to do with actually believing the Quran or worshipping Allah and more to do with having a protected in group and standing against the out group,

    When you’re raised in an environment like this it’s very hard to break out.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Muslim average IQ is 82.

    Of course they can't believe a normal person isn't as moronic and as gullible as them.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In their defense, their belief in the existence of God is sound, the only problem being that it is the wrong God, or the wrong revealed truth of the same God. That they are already on firm ground on such a basic idea, that the particulars of their specific revelation are designed to severely punish defectors, that their culture at large is very insulated from outside influence, it shouldn't surprise that they can seem so pigheaded. No one is forced to engage them on such topics and maybe one shouldn't past maybe a few soft volleys.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Welcome to the 9000th episode of: "My god is better than your god!"
      >Distracting people from actual problems since the dawn of written history

      Protip: All fundamentalists want to rule over the rest of you, driven by their priests who just want power. It's all a play for political power.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I was just stating a fact: their religion is false, and patently so for any one who isn't blind. But if I want them converted it's to save their souls from an ugly possible fate, not to lord it over them. That's stupid, you can't force real religious conversion. That's all God's doing. We have a glut of false Christians as it is.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Being this thick.
          >Troll or moron?
          Nah, guy just doesn't want to admit that all fundamentalist includes his christ-gay ass.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're wrong. Your assertion is simply an unfalsifiable cynical take that pretends to read the mind and heart of every man that has ever existed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Unfalsifiable
            1) you admitted to being christgay
            2) monotheistic religions are control systems by which priests control fanatics. As evidenced by history. e.g. 30 years war, wars of religion, Huguenot massacre.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >monotheistic religions are control systems by which priests control fanatics. As evidenced by history. e.g. 30 years war, wars of religion, Huguenot massacre.
            Two problems with your post.
            Take one example: if a religious leader truly believed in tenets of his religion that warned of the evil that could befall his flock in the case of infidelity to those tenets, then that leader is completely within his right, as a spiritual father, to exercise power to protect his flock. From the vantage of a cynic though, such application of power could be misconstrued as a grab for power, yet that falls on the cynic to substantiate and given the nature of the situation it would come down more often than not to the impossible: telepathically reading hearts and minds not only through space, but here through time as well--an impressive feat not unlike an act of God.
            Your examples have little to do with religion as such, and everything to do with nobles using religion, an inevitable unifying force in any society, as a dividing line and rallying force for their own political conflicts.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >their religion is false
          i'll do you one better
          >religion is false
          prove me wrong

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Other races/cultures don't have the same concept of objective truth outside the observer that Western Europeans have. The concept of "Truth" with a capital T specifically comes from the Enlightenment and scienific revolution. Muslims don't really have a similar concept, Basically Islam is the Truth and anything that contradicts Islam is false. This leads to the concept of Taquiyya, the idea that it's ok to lie or knowingly promote falsehoods in order to spread Islam. They don't really see it as "lying" in the same way westerners might.

    You see this in other cultures as well. It's even becoming popular in African American groups, hence you hear blacks always say '"my truth" instead of "the truth."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Islam is the definition of a zero sum game, to be any sort of proper muslim requires you to genuinely believe everything in the quran is 110% factual.

      Also this, mentally speaking they’re all largely stuck around the middle ages at best. Their golden age only came about because they happened to have a ton of Persians come under their rule one time, and once that dried up they intellectually dropped off a cliff because it stifles any sort of innovation if not from doctrine then from the beyond bad behaviors that stem from it. Now add in the fact these populations (at least the rowdy Wahhabbi dickriding ones who never shut the frick up, I don’t think its nearly as bad with Central Asians or Indonesians or whatever) tend to be inbred as all hell and have being Habsburg tier as a cultural trait, it shouldn’t be surprising they act so autistic.

      So what the frick are we supposed to do about that? If we can't convert them to the universal Christian brotherhood, and we can't subvert them through multiculturalism or whatever, what are we supposed to do about them?

      Either give them what they want and give them a one way ticket to allah or just cordon them off to live in their stone age bullshit like the Sentinelese.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >autists, myself included, often struggle with theory of mind
    I'm autistic and have an exceptional theory of mind, thats just called being low iq.

    Anyways, religious types are brainwashed usually since children and are the low openness personality type. Also they are generall mid to lower intelligence. As such they are facing all sorts of mental barriers. Smart theists like CS Lewis would be able to see why someone is not christian (his character of Susan in Narnia) although even he was limited in his scope of understanding. I cannot emphasize how damaging being indoctrinated since childhood is, it completely skews any rational thought and the religious person immediatly defaults to their fear cortex when it is threatend since its such a base concept.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Muslims are essentially brainwashed into a mass cult. It’s often less to do with actually believing the Quran or worshipping Allah and more to do with having a protected in group and standing against the out group,

      When you’re raised in an environment like this it’s very hard to break out.

      https://i.imgur.com/CYSh3Re.jpg

      Every aspect of their religion is pretty much programmed to hold their believers by it and kill all those who doubt it.

      There are muslims resigning from religion but it is a more more rare occurance than other religions.

      >brainwashed
      Everybody is brainwashed into something, it's called culture. not understanding this just exposes you as a midwit liberal, no better than the average boomer

      Other races/cultures don't have the same concept of objective truth outside the observer that Western Europeans have. The concept of "Truth" with a capital T specifically comes from the Enlightenment and scienific revolution. Muslims don't really have a similar concept, Basically Islam is the Truth and anything that contradicts Islam is false. This leads to the concept of Taquiyya, the idea that it's ok to lie or knowingly promote falsehoods in order to spread Islam. They don't really see it as "lying" in the same way westerners might.

      You see this in other cultures as well. It's even becoming popular in African American groups, hence you hear blacks always say '"my truth" instead of "the truth."

      >The concept of "Truth" with a capital T specifically comes from the Enlightenment and scienific revolution
      This is just completely wrong

      >This leads to the concept of Taquiyya, the idea that it's ok to lie or knowingly promote falsehoods in order to spread Islam
      I challenge anyone to quote any primary muslim source that proves this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I challenge anyone to quote any primary muslim source that proves this
        40:28. A believing man from Pharaoh's family, who had concealed his faith, said, “Are you going to kill a man for saying, `My Lord is God,’ and he has brought you clear proofs from your Lord? If he is a liar, his lying will rebound upon him; but if he is truthful, then some of what he promises you will befall you. God does not guide the extravagant imposter.

        Whoso denies God after his faith[...] — save he who is compelled thereto but whose heart finds rest in faith; but whoso expands his breast to denial, upon them is wrath from God; and they have a great punishment. (16:106)

        Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends, rather than the believers -- for whoso does that belongs not to God in anything -- unless you have a fear of them. God warns you that You beware of Him, and unto God is the homecoming. (3:28)

        And spend in the cause of God, and give not yourselves over to destruction. And do good; God loves the doers of good. (2:195)

        You're welcome.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >40:28
          >16:106
          This is the classical notion of taqiyya, literally meaning 'fear'. That is, if you fear for your life, you may keep your faith a secret to preserve your life. this has nothing to do with 'lying to promote islam'

          >3:28
          This has nothing to do woth taqiyya, lying is still sinful by default

          >2:195
          This is just a random verse

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Quran says that Allah himself has misguided the infidels and that they're lower than beasts. Why the frick would telling them false things matter?
            >this has nothing to do with 'lying to promote islam'
            Yes it has. If all people knew what kind of nightmarish satanic cult islam really is in practice, you'd be slaughtered.
            >by default
            That's the important part!
            >This is just a random verse
            Give not yourselves over to destruction implies you can lie to preserve your life.
            What you fail to understand is that there's next to zero conceptual difference between explicitly rejecting God to save your life and lying to promote the general safety of your group.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why the frick would telling them false things matter?
            Well, if the clerical rulings on the permissibility of taqiyya are anything to go by, the theory is that if you lie to the dumbfrick misguided animals they'll be mislead and not act in their best interests (Which is kicking Muslims out of their societies).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            "There was no behavior more hated to the Messenger of Allah than lying. A man would lie in narrating something in the presence of the Prophet, and he would not be content until he knew that he had repented." Tirmidhi 1973

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why do muslims lie so much then? They engage in fallacies like their life depends on it whenever they debate others.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:
            "it is not lawful to lie except in three cases: Something the man tells his wife to please her, to lie during war, and to lie in order to bring peace between the people."
            Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
            Jami` at-Tirmidhi 4:25:1939 (sunnah.com)

            Lying in order to bring peace between people is exactly what muslims do when they pretend their religion is about peace and love.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Lying in order to bring peace between people
            This is very ambiguous and could be spinned to mean anything you wish, which is what you have done.

            The meaning of "bring peace between the people" is to conceal a truth that will bring no benefit but chaos among people who would have loved each other otherwise. The truth of Islam, its laws and theology cannot create chaos among people. Believing such a thing makes one a kafir

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >This is very ambiguous
            Welcome to islam.
            >The truth of Islam, its laws and theology cannot create chaos among people
            Why did you just lie?
            >4:101 And when ye go forth in the land, it is no sin for you to curtail (your) worship if ye fear that those who disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you
            Allah tells you that non-muslims are always at war with you, thus he gives you the justification you need to lie to us on a regular basis.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >thus he gives you the justification you need to lie to us on a regular basis.
            Do you believe whatever you already believe in and change and alter reality to fit with your beliefs?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you believe whatever you already believe in and change and alter reality to fit with your beliefs?
            ?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Prophet said "Do not ever lie, because lying leads to very abhorrent sins, and those in turn lead to Hellfire" (Ibn Majah)

            >Why the frick would telling them false things matter?
            If you convert them to falsehood, they are still upon falsehood. "Man is ruined except those who call upon the Truth"

            >they're lower than beasts
            Lying to animals is also haram

            >What you fail to understand is that there's next to zero conceptual difference between explicitly rejecting God to save your life and lying to promote the general safety of your group
            There is a huge difference. One is done out of necessity for one's life, the other isn't. you are permitted to eat pork if you are starving, you aren't permitted to eat pork to spread islam.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's ironic, because this prophet's job was manipulating people. Even if what he said was true, he never gave people a proof of what he said and, because of that, was reliant on manipulation to convince them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            this is your best argument?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm nta.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The Prophet said
            Also said
            >war is deception
            >When they came to him they spoke to him and made him promises, treating him well, saying that if he would come to te apostle, he would give him an appointment and honor him. They kept on at him until he went with them with a number of israelites... [Once the israelites were disarmed] all the apostles' companions fell upon their israeli companions and killed them except one man who escaped on his feet. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 981).
            >"Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Ka'b)." The Prophet said, "You may say it."

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Autism is high t
    Thats why

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hey random fun fact did you know 55% of Pakistani marriages in the UK are consanguineous?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >did you know 55% of Pakistani marriages in the UK are consanguineous?
      I'm honestly surprised it's that low. I can't remember the last time I saw a Muslim child who wasn't a perfect, living, argument for eugenics/post-birth-abortion.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're low IQ, it's that simple.
    They're just zealous and stupid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why are they dumb, at least when it comes to religion? Is it the inbreeding? Lack of enlightenment philosophy? The whole "Anyone who leaves Islam dies" rule?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Read the Quran and ask yourself if you'd feel safe to question it if you were a muslim.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes but more importantly their entire civilization schema is the reverse of yours.

        You as a White man see families and communities as things that form from mutual agreement on shared principles. You make families to make kids to keep Presbyterianism, or Nazism, or Communism, or whatever the frick going. Muslims, and most Asiatics in general, see it the opposite. Islam is just a tool to advance their group's position in life. Islam is whatever the frick they need to say or do to get ahead. Aisha was 3, 6, 9, 13, 32, 102, 40,390, whatever the frick she has to be in order to advance their group's position.
        >but muh objective truth and muh principles of transcendent values!
        Irrelevant, you're an outsider, you can only ever benefit them by giving them shit. Your opinions are irrelevant. They can totally do objective truth and transcendent principles, mind you. When they're alone. When you're not around. You attacking them for their beliefs in fact just hardens those beliefs as they see this as a bulwark against you, the outside, who is trying to attack their defenses and dilute their ingroup.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is one of the best summaries of islam I've read.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So what the frick are we supposed to do about that? If we can't convert them to the universal Christian brotherhood, and we can't subvert them through multiculturalism or whatever, what are we supposed to do about them?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're supposed to stop giving a shit about universal transcendent values or shared philosophical principles if they don't preserve the existence of your group, duh. "Universal Christian Brotherhood", come the frick on dude these people have IQs in the 70s, why the absolute flying frick would you ever want them as brothers? That means that your gene pool becomes polluted by theirs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Aisha was 3, 6, 9, 13, 32, 102, 40,390, whatever the frick she has to be in order to advance their group's position
          No, there is one objective truth. Aisha was 6 at marriage, 9 at consummation. Anyone who says otherwise is just ashamed and brainwashed by liberal values that has no divine basis

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The five pillars of islam:
    >trust me bro
    >strawman
    >moving the goalposts
    >whataboutism
    >no true scotsman

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's a lot of religious people. I don't know how many times I have seen people on this very board fail to understand that atheists don't believe in any deities and instead assume that they are worshipping satan.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      atheists are religious towards liberal ethics for no good reason, they follow laws as if they were divine and treat the words of scientists like the words of the clergy. if you think they do this for rational reasons, you are delusional. religion does not just disappear after thousands of years, you just call it a different name

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, this says more about you than liberals.
        Science is a method for finding out the truth about the universe.
        Long ago Islamic world knew that, but has since given up since educated people are harder to lead by Imams.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Science is a method for finding out the truth about the universe.
          You seem to not understand that science has little do with ethics

          >The Prophet said
          Also said
          >war is deception
          >When they came to him they spoke to him and made him promises, treating him well, saying that if he would come to te apostle, he would give him an appointment and honor him. They kept on at him until he went with them with a number of israelites... [Once the israelites were disarmed] all the apostles' companions fell upon their israeli companions and killed them except one man who escaped on his feet. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 981).
          >"Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Ka'b)." The Prophet said, "You may say it."

          >war is deception
          Giving da'wah isn't war

          >Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 981
          This was actual war

          I'm not at war with you people, the objective of war is total destruction of the enemy. I am, in fact, stopping you people from destroying yourselves

          I'm nta.

          you haven't proven that the prophet manipulated anyone. this is just a feeling you have with no basis in reality and evidence

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, I have a proof. My proof is that he didn't have one. If he had one, I would have heard about it. If you think I'm wrong, then give me the proof or cite it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Even if what he said was true, he never gave people a proof of what he said
            The proof is the Qur'an, and if you aren't convinced then there is nothing we can do

            >I'm not at war with you people
            Yes you are, ideological warfare. Dar al Harb is called that for a reason.
            >I am, in fact, stopping you people from destroying yourselves
            1- you're not stopping anyone from doing anything because you're a random nobody on the internet
            2- you're destroying yourself by following a satanic religion

            >ideological warfare
            So muslims can lie in any "warfare", whatabout a fasion war? what about a war between husband and wife? muslims can lie then? this line of questioning is meaningless

            >you're destroying yourself by following a satanic religion
            O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing. (An-Nur - 21)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >whatabout a fasion war?
            Muslims care very little about aesthetics, but they might pretend that islam promotes beauty.
            >what about a war between husband and wife?
            We've already established that lies are permitted in a couple.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you are missing my point. war is very different from calling to islam. the objective of war is to destroy the enemy, while the objective of calling to islam is to call to islam. if i'm calling to some false islam-lite liberal religion, what's the point?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if i'm calling to some false islam-lite liberal religion, what's the point?
            Appeasing non-muslims until you get enough political power to show your true face. This is your current modus operandi in the West.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >This is your current modus operandi in the West.
            There are some muslims who are trying to lighten Islam and make it more "accessible". They align themselves with the democratic party, or the labour party in the UK, who have historically been allies to Zionists and enemies of muslims, both in war and ideology. These people are munafiqun(fake muslims). Many of them are paid by governments

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Many of them are paid by governments
            Sure. It's not like they'd naturally gravitate on their own to more sensible versions of islam that conform more with the human nature you (hilariously) claim to uphold.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing. (An-Nur - 21)
            OMG look we're anti fascists, that means we can't be fascists and only fascists could oppose us!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Does Satan promote mercy, piety, charity, forgiveness, strength and love for your fellow man? Is Satan an enemy to homosexuality, drugs, alcohol, murder and theft?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Speaking of which, is Satan an enemy of pedophilia?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Where in the Bible does it say that pedophilia is wrong? Oh you don't follow the Bible right? You follow whatever Satan tells you is right and wrong

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm following well-established modern medicine, which tells us that pedophilia stunts the development of children.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You'd NEVER believe the author of the Quran could possibly lie to you. Why would you do that, after all, doesn't the Quran say that it's truthful? Doesn't it say dozens of times that its author is extremely trustworthy? Doesn't it say that if it was made up its author would suffer? Therein lies the Quran's genius. It simply cannot be questioned by naive people.
            >Does Satan promote mercy, piety, charity, forgiveness, strength and love for your fellow man?
            Islam promotes none of those things except charity to some extent.
            >Is Satan an enemy to homosexuality, drugs, alcohol, murder and theft?
            I think Satan would prefer sodomy and pederasty being rampant in your countries (due to the man-woman segregation), he'd vastly prefer that to quiet monogamous non-sodomite gay couples, that doesn't help him. You conform to this vision.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            In Sharia, sodomy is punishable by death for those already married, pederasty is punishable by death for the adult

            >due to the man-woman segregation
            this is idiotic

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >this is idiotic
            its accurate, why do you think catholic priests are boy rapists?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >its accurate, why do you think catholic priests are boy rapists?
            Muslims can marry four wives AND have relations with slaves. Priests can't marry ever

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >this is idiotic
            You're literally denying objective reality. Have you been to arab countries?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Crime happens because there is no punishment for it. It's that simple

            I'm following well-established modern medicine, which tells us that pedophilia stunts the development of children.

            Tell that to your ancestors

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Crime happens because there is no punishment for it
            That's not how crime works. You are ignorant.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Crime happens because there is no punishment for it
            so why do all the studies show the opposite? that socioeconomic factors are the main predictor of crime, and that harsher punishments don't actually move the needle in crime deterrence?

            >Crime happens because there is no punishment for it. It's that simple
            Incredible, we have a muslim in this very thread lacking a theory of mind.

            >socioeconomic factors
            literal hood homie mentality. yeah, just fix socioeconomics factors, all crime will go away

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't say anything about socioeconomic factors. I'd say education is more important, and muslim fathers tend to be absent and/or violent, which is a recipe for disaster.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            pic related is my parting gift

            >Tell that to your ancestors
            I don't have much people in my family, who had sex with a 9 yo. But even if, yeah they would have been wrong in doing so.

            >I don't have much people in my family, who had sex with a 9 yo
            You probably can't even name your great-great grandfather
            >But even if, yeah they would have been wrong in doing so.
            this morality is completely subjective. nothing that is subjective can be wholly true

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I can and no it's objectively true that it harms children. Proven by modern medicine. You only put up with it, because your pedophile prophet dogmatically commanded you to do so. Completely mindless.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Saudis don't need to rob, they're rich and lazy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >ancestors
            anon, are you moronic?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Crime happens because there is no punishment for it
            so why do all the studies show the opposite? that socioeconomic factors are the main predictor of crime, and that harsher punishments don't actually move the needle in crime deterrence?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Crime happens because there is no punishment for it. It's that simple
            Incredible, we have a muslim in this very thread lacking a theory of mind.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Tell that to your ancestors
            I don't have much people in my family, who had sex with a 9 yo. But even if, yeah they would have been wrong in doing so.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            We don't worship our ancestors, muhammadan.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >non-sodomite gay couples

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The proof is in the Quran, then cite it. The proof is the Quran as a book, then how is it a proof? There are many books.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The proof is in the Quran
            I said "The proof is the Quran". The whole of it. Miracles come and go, but the Qur'an is a living miracle. If you aren't convinced then there is nothing anyone can do

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What's so miraculous about it? I don't get it.
            >It's miraculous, because we say it is.
            I can't be just that, right?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the Qur'an directly predicts people like (You), maybe start with that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Qu'ran predicts that people won't believe in it and say it's not evidenced, because it's not. Wow. Miraculous.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the cult propaganda text has passages warning you about people criticizing it
            What a shocker

            The Qur'an says: they are deaf dumb and blind.

            Deaf because you do not hear the clear arguments we give. Dumb because all your speech is meaningless. Blind because you cannot see objective truth.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >dumb
            anon, the average iq in saudi arabia is 72

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            dumb means mute, you cretin

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Deaf because you do not hear the clear arguments we give. Dumb because all your speech is meaningless. Blind because you cannot see objective truth.
            Fits muslims to a t.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, your book tells you it's true because it's true and people who don't believe it's true are wrong. We know.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You didn't give a single argument and then you call me dumb.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the cult propaganda text has passages warning you about people criticizing it
            What a shocker

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I find funny that the Quran's descriptions of non-muslims fit the behavior of muslims to a t.
            >do not think nor listen
            >follow mindlessly what their elders say
            >superstious
            >violent
            >degenerate
            >lying

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm not at war with you people
            Yes you are, ideological warfare. Dar al Harb is called that for a reason.
            >I am, in fact, stopping you people from destroying yourselves
            1- you're not stopping anyone from doing anything because you're a random nobody on the internet
            2- you're destroying yourself by following a satanic religion

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm not at war with you people, the objective of war is total destruction of the enemy. I am, in fact, stopping you people from destroying yourselves
            Tell that to the Arab pagans whose culture you wiped up completely.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >treat the words of scientists like the words of the clergy.
            Thats not how any of this works, read

            Anon, this says more about you than liberals.
            Science is a method for finding out the truth about the universe.
            Long ago Islamic world knew that, but has since given up since educated people are harder to lead by Imams.

            for more info.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Religion built to help justify and motivate people for war, from an area that's been a shithole at least the past 80 or so years. Also has had some 500 years less time to develop compared to the other mainstream religion.At this point is it surprising that the arguments are shit?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Muslims are extremely inbred and mentally moronic, so of course they can't understand why normal people don't believe propaganda blindly.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >there's actual muslims in this thread
    You can argue about the meaning of the Quran all you want but a simply look into muslim countries shows what hellholes they are.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These threads always end up with the one proselytizing Muslim rage-quitting.

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