Are there historical examples of this?

Are there historical examples of this?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alkibiades, Petain

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alan Turing, although he then had a posthumous redemption arc

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Napoleon

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hitler pre-1939

    All he had to do was to not invade Czechoslovakia and Poland.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every communist revolutionary.

  7. 2 months ago
    upper class argie

    he should have gone down fighting, call the army or even air force and take down 500 looters and egalitarian anti-casteist militant rioters.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Let's bear in mind that this wasn't a popular uprising, it was a staged coup carried out by peronism. They did the same thing to Macri, in some way.

      Our current economic and political situation is far worse than it was in 2001 yet we don't see riots in the streets. Maybe we will because peronism/kirchnerism/far left organizations will try to destabilize Milei

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gaius Marius. He dies before the Social War, he's at Cincinnatus tier of Roman Heroes.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Mao had died after the civil war and before fricking things up in the grand scale, his legacy sure would be more pure.

  10. 2 months ago
    Dirk

    Abraham Lincoln would not be so divinized if he hadn't been assassinated

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know about that. Outside of assassination, he had a ton of really solid quotes that stand the test of time ("a house divided" and such), as well as being the president during our country's greatest civil war (so far), as well as throwing his own signature on the amendment that abolished human slavery in the country.

      Dude has a pretty huge legacy. The assassination definitely bumped him up into a sort of martyr status. And of course since he died, we'll never know if he might have turned out to be an absolute butthole in old age. But I think it's pretty hard to argue that his own merits don't stand pretty tall on their own.

      • 2 months ago
        Dirk

        He was an objectionable fellow in life and the errors of reconstruction would have obviously been blamed on Lincoln, the occupying dictator

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Given he had gigantism before modern medicine he wouldn’t have lived to see 60

        Lincoln is believed to have had depression, smallpox, and malaria.[356] He took blue mass pills, which contained mercury,[357] to treat constipation.[358] It is unknown to what extent this may have resulted in mercury poisoning.[359]

        >Lincoln is believed to have had depression, smallpox, and malaria.[356] He took blue mass pills, which contained mercury,[357] to treat constipation.[358] It is unknown to what extent this may have resulted in mercury poisoning

        >Several claims have been made that Lincoln's health was declining before the assassination. These are often based on photographs of Lincoln appearing to show weight loss and muscle wasting

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not the same but what's the name of the idea where that if a historical figure died right at their peak they would have been remembered as the Greatest of all time but because they lived long enough that they fricked up spectacularly and tarnished their reputation.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Caesar and Octavian

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Octavian successfully had 40 years to make himself the wise Augustus and greatest Roman. If he died right after Actium his butthole behaviour as Triumvir would probably win out.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Phillip V of Macedon

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