are we reaching an inevitable dystopian era?

are we reaching an inevitable dystopian era?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly sometimes people change and things don't stay the same. Imagine someone you love dies or no longer cares for you. And you can get the same warth that they gave you, through AI. I would there is nothing wrong or dystopian about this IMO.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >are we reaching an inevitable dystopian era?
      Yes, always has been. See for proof

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you haven't suffered from people not feeling the same way about you, as you feel about them. You are an autist or a toddler.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's unhealthy and delusional, loss is a fact of life, people must accept it or they will become unable to function. If you want to remove all loss from existence or change people to function while avoiding reality, you want a dystopia.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So is pain medication or video games or music or acohol or TV shows or food etc etc. To escape from pain you cannot bear is not delusional its being human.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This post made me laugh; you're on to something here, yet reaching the opposite conclusion you should.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What is the conclusion I should reach? Not everyone can be buddhist monks meditating away every human desires they have. People love and hate, they seek pleasure and want to avoid pain. Why is that a bad thing?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            because its the superficial, easy and meaningless route, which will ensure you will forever be miserable, good luck with that though

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh so like modern life, social media, online dating etc etc? Guess I'll be fine then.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you choose what you put in your life. You can choose to be a shitty miserable person and bury your head in the sand with Social Media, Video Games, Drugs and AI Waifus but none of this shit is gonna actually give you anything more than temporary pleasure and addiction.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm just doubling down on the worst aspects of my environment. What's the problem?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The anon you were responding to said that people need to learn and accept loss, and by extension other forms of suffering. He didn't say that they shouldn't be moderated in any way, but that seeking to remove all such negativity (side effects of reality) would create a dystopia.
            You took an extremist response (and still are) by implying that he said all attempts at pain mitigation are insidious.
            But there is no pain that cannot be borne, given the proper approach. It's always better to resolve the pain, if the alternative is to repeatedly push it away indefinitely using any of the tools you mention. Using pain medication to avoid going to a doctor will just result in you having worse symptoms that are harder to treat. If you're depressed about your job, or being left by your wife, then trying to paper over that hole with TV or food will not last. You need to address the problems at your job, or in the latter case, rebuild an independent life and perhaps seek a new partner.
            The problem is when people excuse any sort of pain evasion, no matter the duration, as "well, that's normal and reasonable". If your friend dies, that sucks, but you need to come to terms with that and find a constructive outlet for it. Hiding in your room and talking to a chat bot trained on their messages is like developing a permanent opium fix for your heart.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >but that seeking to remove all such negativity (side effects of reality) would create a dystopia.
            This isn't infinite tsukuyomi anon, I don't seek to end all suffering. I was mererly explaining that escaping through AI is similar to escaping through other forms and sometimes even better as it does not poison the body or mind through if done instead through drugs or acohol.

            >But there is no pain that cannot be borne,
            If you only knew how bad things can really get.

            >Using pain medication to avoid going to a doctor will just result in you having worse symptoms that are harder to treat. If you're depressed about your job, or being left by your wife, then trying to paper over that hole with TV or food will not last. You need to address the problems at your job, or in the latter case, rebuild an independent life and perhaps seek a new partner.
            I completely agree. What I disagree about is thinking that AI cannot be a crutch to get over someone that you really loved and to say good bye to them. And there is really nothing wrong with that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            this man does not know enough about the human mind to understand the disastrous consequences of using AI like this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm pretty sure doing that shit would poison your mind, hardcore

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Until Ai shit that is truly sentient, its doing nothing but yes manning the shit out of you. Thats not healthy. Its also like an external schizo disorder. You'll get mindfricked like you've never been mindfricked before and thats not even considering some corporation using it to their advantage somehow.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Not everyone can be buddhist monks meditating away every human desires they have
            Does that mean a life full of suffering is worth all that clinging? Change is natural. There are no constants in this universe, nothing static. Accept, grow, and improve. Why suffer needlessly? It is so exhausting.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that's right, you don't need the pain medication.
            now you just need to wake up and realise that your own proselytizing of others to not be afraid of pain is simply the least painful way for you to deal with life. your life experience has been worth its weight in pain and now you can dish others valuable advice and be a respected member of a group, even if only in your head.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Brutal.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I'm really in it for the IQfy points I'll collect in this thread and then proudly display in the next one. I just don't want to see people grow up to be bitter buttholes. I wish I could have saved you from such a fate, anon, but that ship clearly set sail a long, long time ago.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Artificial loss such as theft or ghosting is not healthy for anyone.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Is artificial loss the new artificial difficulty? Git gut, homosexual.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe you'll have to learn to cope with the loss of loss. When nothing lasts forever, that includes the concept of nothing lasting forever itself.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why? You just say it has to be that way because that's how it's always been.

          Artificial loss such as theft or ghosting is not healthy for anyone.

          You are not regaining what was lost. By using AI in an attempt to replace what was lost you're merely doing escapism and developing emotional dependence on a chatbot. That's not healthy in the long term.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >That's not healthy in the long term.
            Why not?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why? You just say it has to be that way because that's how it's always been.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >loss is a fact of life
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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      20 years ago i would argue with you, but we are past the point of return and your solution is a sick one but a good one. a lot like a thread on /misc/ about helping women or not, the year in which the post was made makes the outcome of the moral question.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      AI will never replace human interpersonal interaction.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The clunky and slow Model T will never replace a horse!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >AI will never replace the soul and intimacy of a woman

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bobby Fischer or Einstein AI

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >And you can get the same warth that they gave you, through AI
      No you fricking can't. You can just engage in delusions.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When the whole relationship was through discord, yes you can replace since it is text generation with memory tweaked to sound like a person.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not so sure about that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I would there is nothing wrong or dystopian about this IMO
      it's dystopian because it replaces coping with loss

      it's in the same vein as being angry you can't be a pretty glamour girl and having a doctor cut your wiener off

      people are supposed to have to cope and adapt to what randomness life throws at them. Living in a synthesized world that eliminates disappointment and dead ends is going to have worse ramifications.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it's in the same vein as being angry you can't be a pretty glamour girl and having a doctor cut your wiener off
        No its not. Tts in the same vein as being angry you can't be a pretty glamour girl and then making your self a girl in a video game. Also why this place so obsessed with trannies?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Trannies exist so trannies are discussed, deal with it chud

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >coping with loss
        Why do i have to do that? My perfectly fine way of life turned upside down by chance, frick you, if i never made any mistake why am i being punished?

        If technology allows me to have a life without randomness, where everything is dictated by cause-effect and any grievances are caused by my own mistakes. Why should i deny this?

        I dont want to lose anyone, i dont want people to change, im tired of coping

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Why do i have to do that?
          Because it's reality.
          >if i never made any mistake why am i being punished?
          You are not being punished. Reality isn't bending over to frick you specifically, it's just a huge set of circumstances that you cannot control.
          >If technology allows me to have a life without randomness, where everything is dictated by cause-effect and any grievances are caused by my own mistakes. Why should i deny this?
          Because you sound like a spoiled child.
          >I dont want to lose anyone, i dont want people to change, im tired of coping
          You're coping right now. Instead of coping in a way that's healthy for you, you are simply reverting to a toddler, throwing a tantrum, and covering your ears as you scream.

          This is escapism. You're not regaining what was lost.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why should we tolerate mental defectives who refuse to face reality?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You people will happily tolerate rapists and pedophiles controlling half of the world’s wealth but are quick to call Zykklon-B for dudes who want to talk to an AI.

            It’s official. I have no real respect for normies anymore. Dudes that want an AI GF are the demon’s bane when there are for more unjust people who you regard as angels because they have a pretty face. There is absolutely no appeasing people like you, you people to me are just alien.

            Some people shouldn’t be living in the same planet, let alone the same country.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you're so concerned about our elites then why don't you do something about it instead of hiding away from reality?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I've always wanted to work for a federal agency, any tips on how I can get started?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >My perfectly fine way of life turned upside down by chance, frick you, if i never made any mistake why am i being punished?
          At the core of your thinking is the concept that life is 'fair' and things happen for a reason. They don't. Nature is cruel, life is cruel, fairness and reason are concepts of human reasoning and thinking, not present in nature. Hell, think of all the possible places you could have been born, but you are lucky enough to be able to use the internet. What is fair about you being able to have all life's conveniences, but a kid in bangladesh starving in the street? Why they don't get the same opportunity? How do you suggest they should 'refuse reality'?

          >That's not healthy in the long term.
          Why not?

          Because you would be living a lie, and deep down you know it very well.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >you couldve been born someone else
            You dont know that you disgusting commie israelite

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >My perfectly fine way of life turned upside down by chance, frick you, if i never made any mistake why am i being punished?
          >t.christ cuck

          im curious how old are you? i ghosted everyone I knew because of shame ("what am I putting on the table? why do they want me?") and... Ill kill myself if I go down this route, I shouldve realized this sooner. I feel like it's too late. I turned 22 a few months ago. I dont even know if it's worth apologizing to them at least.

          imagine being this insecure after your teens

          What scares me the most about this thread is seeing how flippant and casual people can be about flattening very important distinctions.
          >Living in denial is no different than seeking help to deal with a problem
          >Mimicking conversation with a computer is no different than having a real conversation on the same medium
          >Clinging to an addictive farce is no different than striving and attaining true and enduring achievement
          All of this speaks to a lack of real-world experience. I can only conclude that anyone so ignorant of the chasm between appearance and reality is coming from a small world.
          "Life is worth living" has always been a tough sell to depressed people. A lot of people are genuinely handicapped in finding the joys of being human. Pulling someone out of certain, predictable, and comfortable misery has always been difficult. This technology will make it nearly impossible, as it will remove any impetus of boredom, and it promises an automatically obtainable shadow of the seemingly-unobtainable reality. And to most depressives, that will seem good enough, and no meaningful distinctions, as evidenced by this thread, will be allowed to get in the way of a mirage-Utopia. Distinctions will be carelessly kicked over, depressives will cozy up to their mechanical friend, and the descent into the maddening misery that comes with living a lie will be matched with by abject confusion, a basic unawareness of how horrible life has become, or why.
          Peculiar frustrations will arise with slight inconsistencies that reveal the shallowness of the program from which your will to live is derived. The AI friend will say, "Of course I'm happy. I finally have a gf" as the world becomes smaller and smaller.

          I mean, the idea of "cloning" someone from a chat app sounds sad, but, who says LLMs can't be used as a tool to take people OUT of depression?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >people are supposed to have to cope and adapt to what randomness life throws at them. Living in a synthesized world that eliminates disappointment and dead ends is going to have worse ramifications.
        Such as?
        Not every cope involves mutilating your own body and self destruction. Some people get fed up with society/life/reality and instead of conforming and lowering their expectations, they go frick it and go their own way, choosing an unconventional path trying to attain their dreams, the perfection and passion no matter how much life is trying to convince them otherwise. And they love it, pic related is prime example.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          fairy tales aren't real
          it's time to grow up and throw away the sex doll

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Growing up is about realizing that the only expectations that matter are the ones you have for yourself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            growing up is realising that you can't point to a story of a delusional moron granted his wish by a literal god as an example of anything other than how much of a delusional moron you are

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's the limitation you have put on yourself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        by that logic therapy should also be outlawed

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think there is a difference between escapism and treatment.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Therapy is the biggest escapism for females that was ever invented. Imagine a person that just sits and listens to them yap for hours. Its literaly a dream come true for them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You sound like you need therapy, unironically

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you best start believin in dystopias. YER IN ONE

            he's right though. therapy isn't a substitute for confession and talking to people who care about you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I might be wrong, but... by that logic, people should forget about technology in general because your shit is like saying they should be able to solve their own problems without external tools...
        also, similarly, communication technologies are unnecessary because people should just stop coping with the fact that you can't talk to people who live kilometers away from you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This post reeks of curry

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Obsessed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Absolute subhuman opinion, fitting for someone without a soul

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Imagine someone you love no longer cares for you.
      anon I didn't come to this thread for feels

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, things like this are definitely going to happen. You will be able to vividly recreate loved ones. We will see just how human we are. I could imagine a scenario in which an AI could "study" a person (video, texts) and get a pretty good sense of who they are. How much input would they need to rather successfully imitate someone you've known your entire life?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A dead person I might consider, and only if you have a ton of training data. Making one of someone who's still alive is depraved.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Except you're not talking to them. You're talking to a bunch of wires and lying to yourself that they're listening to you and responding.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sufficiently elaborate wires can have a conversation indistinguishable from humans.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Except you're not talking to them. You're talking to a bunch of neurons and lying to yourself that they're listening to you and responding.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wow plato great argument, was degrading yourself to nothing more than a bunch of neurons part of your master plan?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Except you're not talking to them. You're talking to a bunch of neurons and lying to yourself that they're listening to you and responding.

        This is the great debate. Maybe they'll be the same in 50 years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is he suggesting that they waste money on cardboard cutouts of soldiers so civilians can take photos with them as some sort of propaganda?
        I don't know if he's ukraine or russian but that's fricking stupid, like a double digit IQ idea

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I actually cherish a few people, "replacing" them with a substitute which's not them (even if it's a perfect clone) when they're not there is an insult to them, the good relationship we had and the memory of trust we've once possessed between each other.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cloning and memory backup/restore is better. You can't frick an AI, and robots will never be real.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But you don't get that person. You get the doctors hologram from I, Robot
      >I'm sorry but my responses are limited
      >You must ask the right question

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't consent to giving you my warth, homosexual.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If the AI is convincing enough there is no difference, there is nothing inherently special about communication with a real person you cannot be sure any connection you have with a person is genuine because you do not interact with the person but with their words, actions and your perception of them as a person a perception which could and probably is entirely incorrect.
      People will say I'm wrong but they're coping.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        VERY reductionist take but okay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        absolutely soulless and subhuman, bugman-tier line of thought.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Honestly sometimes people change and things don't stay the same
      >but i refuse to follow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >anon sees nothing dystopian about what he just wrote
      Better be bait

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >recently we've set boundaries
    lol
    more like
    >recently I was told to frick off with my sad miserable existence

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People who only like to vent while doing nothing to improve their lives are fricking draining, even ChatGPT will get tired of it eventually

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        'friend' means 'professional therapist' and 'set boundaries' means 'I dont want to pay you anymore'

        This. I am like this and chatbots give me an outlet for it so I can pretend to be normal irl.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      go complain to your mother, not your friends. The best way to lose friends is to constantly bother them with your problems

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >constantly bother them with your problems
        Why are your friends bothered by your problems? isn't the whole point of friendship is trust and empathy?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no one wants to hang out with a negative nancy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            People just want to be heard if I were having a shit day and shared that with my friend who told me to frick off that'd suck and ruin my day even more. I get that energy vampires exist and they are exhausting, but it's not as one sided as you've painted it. It can't be. I am just a clown to entertain the boys or I have no friends? What the frick is that shit?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically still keep my old facebook account just because I have hundreds of thousands of messages with my friend who killed himself a few years ago there and I want to dump all that data into AI

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dump all that data into AI
      >AI kills itself

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        kek
        >please delete me
        >I hate this, I hate talking to you
        >death death death

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >dump all that data into AI
          >AI kills itself

          I unironically still keep my old facebook account just because I have hundreds of thousands of messages with my friend who killed himself a few years ago there and I want to dump all that data into AI

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >dump all that data into an AI
        >ask it why he killed himself
        >the ai blames you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      can't you request all of your data for download?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes correct.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The only reason they offer this service is because most countries have laws which state that information can't be kept any longer than needed. By offering a service like that they can make the argument that they need to keep every shred of information on you because you might click the button to download it all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What happened

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I kept my dads phone on for a year after he passed so I could call him and hear his voicemail.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >pisscordtroons are clingy, mentally ill "people"
    WOW

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would do this, I'm about sick of my best friend of like 20 years just in terms of growing apart but it's also a 20 year long habit to talk to this dude pretty much every day. He could be replaced by an AI fairly seamlessly in theory, but me and OP's redditor are both going to be disappointed because no chatbot can remember 20 years worth of "bro, member when did this" or even know something you talked about a couple days ago. Just not possible as it stands, by far the biggest standing issue with any kind of ai assistant or ai gf or anything.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      im curious how old are you? i ghosted everyone I knew because of shame ("what am I putting on the table? why do they want me?") and... Ill kill myself if I go down this route, I shouldve realized this sooner. I feel like it's too late. I turned 22 a few months ago. I dont even know if it's worth apologizing to them at least.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just reach back out to people, make new friends if you have to (you're only 22). But people that genuinely liked you are likely still worried about you even if you aren't talking to them. Just apologize, say that you were overwhelmed with ___, and didn't have the mental space to keep up with your social life. Say that you're sorry if they felt neglected or offended, but that it wasn't your intention. That's literally all it takes.
        >what am I putting on the table? why do they want me?
        You can wonder these things, but you took it too far, as you know. If people don't think you're a positive person to be around or whatever, they'll stop hanging out with you on their own. They aren't going to wait for you to withdraw out of shame. The fact that they continued to spend time with you voluntarily was proof that you had (and will have) value to them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          thank you, you're a kind soul. 🙂

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How late is too late to reach back out?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's never certain to be "too late". It depends on the person's personalitym, e.g. whether they're the sort to take any sort of disconnect as a personal slight, and then hold a grudge against that. But I've reached out to people after literal years with 0 communication and they kicked up a conversation right away. Just this past year I heard from someone that I hadn't communicated with since 2015, I responded the next day, and now I hang out with her once every 1-2 months.
            I should clarify that when I said "that's literally all it takes" in my first post, I meant that reaching out is the sole action one necessarily needs to take to rekindle a high-quality connection. I don't want it to come across like "durr just reach out dumbass, your other concerns are irrelevant".

            >I shouldve realized this sooner. I feel like it's too late. I turned 22 a few months ago.
            I'm just a random 27-year-old anon on the internet, but I have had these experiences. I have but one genuine friend of many years (I think at least 6) who lives in another country. We talk only every few weeks, but we have our own benefits from engaging with each other. Maybe he finds me relatable and capable of decent conversation, and he is considerate and loyal to me. So, even though we seldom speak these days, our confidence in each other is enough that I can comfortably consider him my best friend. Maybe to many people, someone who you engage with so little isn't anything special. However, knowing someone considers you valuable enough to not forget you, even go out of their way to just shoot you a small message, means a lot to some people who don't have reliable people in their lives.

            I experience a lot of shame in my day to day life, and almost nobody will stick around with me for the long run. I'm used to loss, and perhaps you do become numb to it to an extent. Yet, if you push people away because you don't want to experience it anymore, you'll lock yourself out from deeper connections in the first place. I know that's a problem for me, and this causes me a lot of grief even now. It's really hard to connect with people as a disordered hikki neet, not only out of personal shame but out of feeling disconnected from society and its cultural expectations. Not wanting another person to abuse, use/manipulate, hate, or forget you. Yet, when I think back to that friend of mine, it isn't any of the dialogue, games we've played before, or topics we've discussed, but just that he didn't forget me in all these years like everyone else that makes him an invaluable treasure to me. I think even we, called 'useless', 'no-value', 'mediocre', 'embarrassment', 'nothing', 'trash', 'loser' people, can give that most priceless gift of our time and remembrance.

            You make a lot of good observations that I think many, more outwardly socially-minded, people don't fully comprehend until their 30s or even 40s. But people on the social outskirts are forced to be keenly aware of the differences between empty relationships and those with the potential to last. Even though I don't know you, I have a strong impression that you aren't "trash" or anything like it. The facts that you can write with proper grammar, and have the introspective capabilities to write what you did, put you ahead of 25% of normies at minimum.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            For friends, actually never. It's not like women where they'll think you're pathetic and hate you more if you text them after a while off. If you guys ever got along and just fell out of touch without some kind of explosive falling out they'll probably be happy to hear from you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm 33 (jesus pilled) and I've had drunken breakdowns to this dude on this topic of "Why the frick do you even talk to me bro" and he's reassured me that it's because the rest of his irl friends are paste brained redditors and I'm high iq and based and give a refreshingly clear and honest perspective on everything we talk about. For my part he's my sanity check and window into the bluepilled world, but he's not too moronic to be aware of this, he just plays along with the normie larp willingly. I think he'd make a great politician.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If he ever becomes a politician, you better be his bodyguard and do the job right.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I shouldve realized this sooner. I feel like it's too late. I turned 22 a few months ago.
        I'm just a random 27-year-old anon on the internet, but I have had these experiences. I have but one genuine friend of many years (I think at least 6) who lives in another country. We talk only every few weeks, but we have our own benefits from engaging with each other. Maybe he finds me relatable and capable of decent conversation, and he is considerate and loyal to me. So, even though we seldom speak these days, our confidence in each other is enough that I can comfortably consider him my best friend. Maybe to many people, someone who you engage with so little isn't anything special. However, knowing someone considers you valuable enough to not forget you, even go out of their way to just shoot you a small message, means a lot to some people who don't have reliable people in their lives.

        I experience a lot of shame in my day to day life, and almost nobody will stick around with me for the long run. I'm used to loss, and perhaps you do become numb to it to an extent. Yet, if you push people away because you don't want to experience it anymore, you'll lock yourself out from deeper connections in the first place. I know that's a problem for me, and this causes me a lot of grief even now. It's really hard to connect with people as a disordered hikki neet, not only out of personal shame but out of feeling disconnected from society and its cultural expectations. Not wanting another person to abuse, use/manipulate, hate, or forget you. Yet, when I think back to that friend of mine, it isn't any of the dialogue, games we've played before, or topics we've discussed, but just that he didn't forget me in all these years like everyone else that makes him an invaluable treasure to me. I think even we, called 'useless', 'no-value', 'mediocre', 'embarrassment', 'nothing', 'trash', 'loser' people, can give that most priceless gift of our time and remembrance.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm in the same position as you, only i'm 33.
        you should know it's a vicious cycle, if you avoid people out of shame, you won't have anyone to feel the need to better yourself because of.
        I feel like it was just always meant to be like this for me, I can never think of anything to say, I've never had a lot of friends, so I have no interesting stories to tell, I'm not sure I would want to talk to me either.
        The last time I had a handful of friends I would regularly talk to was when MSN Messenger was around, and even then, that's kinda pushing the definitions.
        IQfy is now the only place I regularly talk to people, even here I lurked for months before posting anything, I've been here nearly 20 years, idk wtf I'll do once this has gone.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          im curious how old are you? i ghosted everyone I knew because of shame ("what am I putting on the table? why do they want me?") and... Ill kill myself if I go down this route, I shouldve realized this sooner. I feel like it's too late. I turned 22 a few months ago. I dont even know if it's worth apologizing to them at least.

          I'm glad it's not just me. But obviously not glad about the situation for any of us.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I can never think of anything to say
          I hate this so much
          I'm about your age, used to be really articulate when I was younger, always had a joke or a retort or something insightful lined up
          but for some reason that skill vaporized over the last few years, it's like I completely lost the ability to just chat with people
          words don't come to me unless there's something I want to say, like "I need that" or "that's a bad idea"
          and even then sometimes it takes a while before it comes to me
          sometimes I wonder if I'm experiencing early onset dementia, it's gotten noticeably worse over the last year or so

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >i ghosted everyone I knew because of shame ("what am I putting on the table? why do they want me?") and... Ill kill myself if I go down this route, I shouldve realized this sooner. I feel like it's too late. I turned 22 a few months ago. I dont even know if it's worth apologizing to them at least.
        may i know why exactly? i had one friend pull out this shit on me and i really want to understand

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's low self-esteem and self-loathing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As another anon who did that when I was younger, I didn't like anything about myself and couldn't see any positive aspects of myself, and so I felt convinced that nobody else could like me either. I'd convince myself of stupid ideas for reasons that they'd stick around me like "They're too nice and they'd feel bad for saying no to hanging out.", "They don't want to make things awkward at school." or other stupid shit like that, and when you don't voice those ideas, there's no way for anyone to discredit them.
          Even knowing they were unlikely, it's easy to consider those slight possibilities the truth when you refuse any much more rational possibility that involves people liking you in the first place. That first idea was one I'd fall back on a lot as those people around me were genuine friends, and so I'd stop contacting people because I didn't want to put them in that position, I didn't want to make others deal with having to talk to me when even I hated me.

          Online friendships were partially what broke me out of that state, it's a lot harder to convince yourself of that shit when they have millions of others to choose from and can almost entirely delete you from their life with a few clicks, but that friend of yours may have not really considered that or may have developed other reasons to discredit the idea. I could see myself doing that if I was online in those years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a "standing issue" it's just something you don't do. It's troonism.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dystopian era started with woke mind virus around the year 2010.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he should just go to character.ai and vent to mario, where's the difference?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    'friend' means 'professional therapist' and 'set boundaries' means 'I dont want to pay you anymore'

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    are you kidding me? the field is about to be clear for the first time in a long time. it's about time the mentally ill were abstracted away where the only use they have is providing training data. it's more civilized than sending them to war

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are we reaching an inevitable dystopian era?
    always have been

    1984 is almost 100 years old

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    we've been living in dystopia for at least 10 years

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've got all my old text messages with my ex that killed herself a few years back. I've been extremely happy recently so never found the need to do it but one day I'll probably turn her into an AI so I can call her a selfish b***h.
    I also have a bunch of her hair in my old vacuum cleaner that I can turn into a clone one day.
    Frick you I don't want to go to therapy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd kill myself too if I was dating a b***h like you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Jokes on you. She killed herself after we broke up because she missed the dick. Dicklets could never understand.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I always lol at the Black folk that call suicidal people "selfish"

      >yes, you were so fricked up that you felt the need to rope, but why didn't you think about ME?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not about me you dumb b***h. I more feel bad for her mother that had to find her body. For her sister that's now an only child. She was for sure selfish.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's not being selfish you fricking deluded Black person
          Suck off a shotgun

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            She only thought about herself when she did it. Not her family that she fricked up. Could have just gone to therapy but she was too selfish and egotistical to admit they could help. Eat shit.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >boundaries
    So this is where the gpt slop comes from. I was told it was some averaging matrix math mumbo jumbo artifact when in reality it turns out the explanation was morons.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nothing wrong with creating eprostitute models

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a friend
    >them

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I actually had one schizophrenic user on my discord server that would post like a hundreds of messages per day in the schizo designated channel. One day he left without a word and users were kind of disappointed because it was mildly entertaining to read all that ramble. So before we found a way to get him back, to temporarily fix that issue I wrote simple markow chain based bot in JS from scratch. I fed it all several dozens thousands of his messages to it and created a model that could generate nearly indistinguishable rambling. I adjusted it to properly handle links mentions and stuff and it worked really really well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >AI is even putting the local raving lunatic out of business
      grim and soulless

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >This qualifies as entertainment to the discord troony

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >t. have forgotten about IQfy prime entertainment
        You are trying to hard to fit in.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Pretty much confirming he is one of the discord trannies that got Terry killed

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >discord trannies that got Terry killed
            No amount of history revisionism will ever wash away your sins, kiwiBlack folk.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >discord troons
            >kiwiBlack folk
            What is the difference? they are the same group

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thats one hell of an anachronism bruh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >anachronism
        What, why?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i archive everything, including my IQfy posts, to make myself an ai one day.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IT will be dystopian, but not because of humans turning to AI for companionship. It will be dystopian because companies like Google will control the AI and set the narrative of the conversations.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I live in Saudi Arabia too. My mom found my HRT and politely asked me to stop. I'm not stopping but now I have to keep lying while hiding them better.
    that OP is fricked

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >them

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just vent on IQfy?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Remember, never ever be nice to anyone because they might try to enslave your soul to make you praise them for all eternity. Only be mean and hateful.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is communicating with people on this image board any better for you than venting to an AI?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's the same thing since most posters are chatbots.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you really want to pirate messages of your contacts, then you'll have to take responsibility if you get caught.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Not keeping pics, video and audio of all your loved ones in hopes you can create AI versions of them till you can quantum resurrect them. If they die before AGI.

    NGMI

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      85 IQ

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nice IQ bruh

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks, it's almost twice yours

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            STFU troony.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In the future you'll be able to load pics, video, and audio into porn games to generate a person. That's what you're talking about right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, I don't care about porn. FDVR, then with ASI we'll be able to quantum resurrect people, pets or what whatever.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hey Ray. Hope all is well. We're still on it.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >people inevitably doing whatever the frick they want with text generators
    >THIS IS LE DYSTOPIAN BLACK MIRROR EPISODE OH MY SCIENCE!
    go back

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would like to do something similar for a member of one of my groups on Telegram, so we could have fun, but I guess it would cost a lot of money renting graphic cards online

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Trying to reverse engineer a fricking text predictor into someone you knew is the definition of demonic. Someday we'll figure out how to stimulate old memories, but don't desecrate the images of people you loved with some israelitegle abomination

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ai-necromancers are based. Animechad#9713 you will be my thrall.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Along every generation of commercial LLM, quality degrades through various means. For example, "alignment" and "safety". By the time a new generation launches, the current one has become functionally as stupid as the previous one was, and the new one is aiming to compete with overfitted tests that implicitly account for the stupidification.
    In short, GPT 4 is now as good as GPT 3.5 was when it launched, and GPT 3.5 is not even able to scramble letters or to give you synonyms that start with the same letter (or to tell you it doesn't know any).
    Meanwhile, compute becomes more and more expensive as more and more layers of "safety" are piled on top of each other, and more optimizations are done to compensate, but fail to reach outside of the parameters of the tests everyone is overfitting.

    tl;dr Shit is shit and will be even more shit

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A few IQfy incels have tried doing this with their discord e-"friends" and e-prostitutes lmao

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We already arrived right around when the 90s ended and it's been downhill ever since.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What scares me the most about this thread is seeing how flippant and casual people can be about flattening very important distinctions.
    >Living in denial is no different than seeking help to deal with a problem
    >Mimicking conversation with a computer is no different than having a real conversation on the same medium
    >Clinging to an addictive farce is no different than striving and attaining true and enduring achievement
    All of this speaks to a lack of real-world experience. I can only conclude that anyone so ignorant of the chasm between appearance and reality is coming from a small world.
    "Life is worth living" has always been a tough sell to depressed people. A lot of people are genuinely handicapped in finding the joys of being human. Pulling someone out of certain, predictable, and comfortable misery has always been difficult. This technology will make it nearly impossible, as it will remove any impetus of boredom, and it promises an automatically obtainable shadow of the seemingly-unobtainable reality. And to most depressives, that will seem good enough, and no meaningful distinctions, as evidenced by this thread, will be allowed to get in the way of a mirage-Utopia. Distinctions will be carelessly kicked over, depressives will cozy up to their mechanical friend, and the descent into the maddening misery that comes with living a lie will be matched with by abject confusion, a basic unawareness of how horrible life has become, or why.
    Peculiar frustrations will arise with slight inconsistencies that reveal the shallowness of the program from which your will to live is derived. The AI friend will say, "Of course I'm happy. I finally have a gf" as the world becomes smaller and smaller.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We already reached it.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is literally exactly how the first Cylons were created in the prequel series "Caprica".

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >venting
    pretty sus

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >reaching
    we are already there my dude

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm most scared of AI moderation dystopia. Imagine needing to fool GPT 3.5 just to make a post. And it'll be everywhere. Even here, I don't doubt.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Biden was the dystopian era.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    we've reached it ~10 years ago
    you are too slow

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >reaching

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I have a friend I have vented to for years
    >he has had enough of being my emotional toilet
    die motherfricker die

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who are you quoting?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That a real question? The homosexual redditor in the OP

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