Berserker

Why were Berserkers only restricted to Germanic people? Why don't we have parallels in other regions of Europe?
and if we do, what are they? apparently, it's a Nordic thing.
and what exactly caused this exclusivity, because we don't see this among the Hellenic and Italic?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why were they important? they used drugs and were terrible at combat. they were more like male cheerleaders

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they used drugs and were terrible at combat.

      So basically Russian/Afghan National Army?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why did civilized races not hop themselves on drugs and cover themselves with shit before battle but instead were renowned for their discipline
    No clue anon, I really couldn't tell you. I don't think anyone here can ever help you.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why were Berserkers only restricted to Germanic people?
    it is not possible to know. These are just speculations, but probably due to the fact that they hunt wolves a lot, the wolf gained a divine aspect like the cat for the Egyptians, but for battle
    >Why don't we have parallels in other regions of Europe?
    because they are different people, no one is the same.
    >and if we do, what are they? apparently it's a Nordic thing.
    ? I didn't understand?
    >and what exactly caused this exclusivity
    separate culture.
    >why don't we see this between Hellenic and Italic?
    because the Mediterranean had different ways of showing virility

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >? I didn't understand?
      I meant if it was something really Nordic, what is the reason for this exclusivity?

      >why did civilized races not hop themselves on drugs and cover themselves with shit before battle but instead were renowned for their discipline
      No clue anon, I really couldn't tell you. I don't think anyone here can ever help you.

      Is it a question of civilization?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sorry guys
        I use translator. I'm from Romania

        Sorry Romanian bro I was being rude in my original post.

        The real answer is Beserker means "bearskin". Lots of civilizations had primitive "savage" troops, so yes it's partially to do with civilization. You had Gauls doing the same thing charging naked into battles to prove their valor but we also have examples from Mesopotamia

        >“They are furious, raging, taking forms strange as Anzu. They charge forward furiously to the fray without armor, They had stripped off their breastplates, discarded their clothing, They tied up their hair and polished… weapons, The fierce heroic men danced with sharpened weapons. They blasted at one another like struggling lions…”

        Pic related, it's an Anzu. I think the answer is that sometimes the chaos of battle can overwhelm someones senses and if you're in a culture that can value that vs punishing it then you can get a "class" of these people.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We have this all over the globe, smart guy.
          in fact, we have this among the Apaches, Incas, Brazilian Indians, etc. It's something very obvious

          Celts had berserker like warriors, it’s an Indo-European thing. Slavs probably had berserkers too, the French soldiers during invasion of Russia claimed you had to kill them twice

          >indo-european
          Try again

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >We have this all over the globe, smart guy.
            in fact, we have this among the Apaches, Incas, Brazilian Indians, etc. It's something very obvious
            Huh? That's what I said

            > Lots of civilizations had primitive "savage" troops

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Celts had berserker like warriors, it’s an Indo-European thing. Slavs probably had berserkers too, the French soldiers during invasion of Russia claimed you had to kill them twice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it’s an Indo-European thing
      except it isn't.
      How do you prove this? We have no evidence of this outside of the Norse.
      Is Indo-European just northern Europeans?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cuchulain The Celtic god went into berserker rages and he is thought of to be the Celtic version of fenrir, the Norse wolf. Also I got this from reddit:
        >The Díberga (literally ‘Non be heros’ or more freely ‘brigands’) were the negative side of the Fianna. They had devilish rituals described as ‘’baptism into the devils possession’’ and were strongly associated with, paganism, wolves and lycanthropy. Historian Kim McCone compares them to beserkers in,
        McCone, K.R. (1986). Werewolves, Cyclopes, Díberga, and Fíanna: Juvenile Delinquency in Early Ireland. Cambridge Medieval Celtic Studies. Number 12.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        What's interesting is how the theory of mythology and "proto-Indo-European" aspects are little by little being refuted and sent to hell.

        >why isnt (Germanic word) found outside of Germanic peoples huh???
        >I guess (Indo European phenomena Germanic word refers to) isnt really Indo European but is unique to Germanic people, I1ncelsisters we are recovering from the mass extermination of our entire race

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bad english...
    Wow
    "Because"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry guys
      I use translator. I'm from Romania

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        haha ha
        He doesn't know how to speak English, imagine being so intelligent

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Berserkers engaged in shamanic like rituals. They put on the skin of a beast and enter a trance state in which the "animal spirit" possess them, granting them superhuman abilities as a side-effect. It was common in more shaman based cultures, and writings about the norse were the most prolific, so there's simply much more written instances of it than others.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shamanic
      huh? Weren't they the Indo-European Super Aryans? so they had that boring Siberian rubbish? It's no wonder that the old German ones were very useful

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah I guess so. The main thing to take away is that being a Berserker, or some other equivalent of warrior in a different culture, means a drift from standard martial training, and engaging deeply into superstition. A man could be a great warrior in a culture with Berserkers, but not be a Berserker himself, because he doesn't engage in the rituals. And there are several sources of regular soldiers beating Berserkers in duels.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Wootan himself is shamanic

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you believe the PIE reconstructionist autists, berserkir stem from a common indoeuropean phenomena called the koryos.
    The gist as I understand of this reconstructed myth is that older generations of men would ostracize the younger and more virile (and thus more violent) men in their culture. These men would from primitive, outcast warbands, called koryos. When they got older and more passive, they would then be reintegrated into normal society.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you believe the PIE reconstructionist autists, berserkir stem from a common indoeuropean phenomena called the koryos.
      This is false.
      It doesn't make sense because it is literally found in the Amazon, and the people who created this meme said they were based on northern Europeans
      which is very moronic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/8GqOxX9.jpeg

        [...]
        Sorry Romanian bro I was being rude in my original post.

        The real answer is Beserker means "bearskin". Lots of civilizations had primitive "savage" troops, so yes it's partially to do with civilization. You had Gauls doing the same thing charging naked into battles to prove their valor but we also have examples from Mesopotamia

        >“They are furious, raging, taking forms strange as Anzu. They charge forward furiously to the fray without armor, They had stripped off their breastplates, discarded their clothing, They tied up their hair and polished… weapons, The fierce heroic men danced with sharpened weapons. They blasted at one another like struggling lions…”

        Pic related, it's an Anzu. I think the answer is that sometimes the chaos of battle can overwhelm someones senses and if you're in a culture that can value that vs punishing it then you can get a "class" of these people.

        What's interesting is how the theory of mythology and "proto-Indo-European" aspects are little by little being refuted and sent to hell.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you actually bothered to do even modest research you would understand how wrong you are lol. Read Taliesin’s Map then get back to me kid

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            huh? show me how wrong I am.
            see this photo
            Is an Indo-European berserker?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok bro other some other non-European cultures had warriors similar to berserkers, there are you happy now?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My point is that it's not IE

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not hard to prove it wrong, getting naked and screaming is universal among humans. It is a little disturbing why some people think this is a sign of some sort of genetic superiority.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I literally said that

            Going amok is a similar concept for the Malays, though it seems a bit more random and uncontrollable

            Very Indo-European

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I literally said that
            I'm agreeing with you 🙂
            Just criticizing people who try race lock it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok sorry

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Very Indo-European
            INDOnesia, the milk of magnesia

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Going amok is a similar concept for the Malays, though it seems a bit more random and uncontrollable

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keyed reminder

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Italics did have bands of young men who dressed in wolf skin and would act as a shock or screen force for the main army.
    >nordic thing
    German thing really.
    The cult of Wotan spread to Scandinavia from Germany during the iron age probably because Scandinavians who expanded into Germany during the iron age retained ties to the homeland and so there was a cultural exchange between Scandinavians in Germany encountering the Wotan cult and Scandinavians in the homeland.
    Previously Scandinavia basically didnt have any cultural association with Odin and Odin's sacred symbols such as the Irmin were absent from Scandinavia while Thor's hammer or club were commonplace.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Lykaia of Ancient Greece and the Leopard Societies of West Africa are almost identical to the Berserkers of Norse culture.

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