>bro just don't hecking do anything or think about anything or try to perceive or be anything ever

>bro just don't hecking do anything or think about anything or try to perceive or be anything ever
I can't decide if it's the most moronic or most based philosophy ever. I guess the bell curve IQ meme is real.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t fall into the trap. Get rich, have kids, and then when you’re old, you can become enlightened. Otherwise you will regret wasting your youth

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You need at least 80 years of work to reach the highest state in taoist enlightenment (which is the state of immortality). Also if you have too much sex you won't have enough sexual energy left to fuel the transformation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've already wasted my youth.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's alright when you realize that the ego is an illusion, there was no youth to be wasted, you can just make love to the cosmos, which is immensely rewarding

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As of right now I just want to kill myself honestly.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s both, everything in between, and everything that isn’t understood

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Think about it, if you don't think about it you don't have a problem to think about.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is a fine line between eastern philosophy/mysticism being based and profound and being absolutely moronic nonsense. Confucius seemed to have some good things to say, whenever I see his quotes pop up somewhere they seem to come from a based and enlightened person. Then I see some shit like “just don’t do anything or be anything” tier mumbo jumbo and I wonder if it’s not all gobbledyasiatic entirely. Man has a purpose on this world, he’s not a frickin smooth stone in the bottom of a river

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Confucius was semi-moronic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Man has a purpose on this world, he’s not a frickin smooth stone in the bottom of a river
      Yes his purpose is to understand on a profound level the Truth of reality. His purpose is not to make a ton of money, or have sex.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >His purpose is not have sex.
        Anon..

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the mortal fears the volcel

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        From a purely fundamental, biological basis humans (and all living creatures) sole purpose is to have sex actually. It is because we have gained consciousness that we have to quibble about how our purpose extends beyond eating, surviving and having sex. If our purpose is nothing else, it is to have sex.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          literally redit, the post.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but I'm not this shitbag, I'm merely a consciousness residing in it and experiencing this world through it. It would be insane for me to waste my time with the desires of the body any more than necessary, and for me to not use it to my hearts content according to my objectives.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is true. A lot of daoism mumbo jumbo garbage which is basically just the influence of clueless people over the ages. Becoming one with Dao is actually easy to understand, it is to become one with the world. Sitting in a cave or at top of a mountain will not achieve. Ancient Daoist did not how to achieve it but in a modern world the answer is clear: science. World is governed by physical laws, only through science one can understand and become one with the world.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bait

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      as a more or less universal method, if something in philosophy looks "moronic", the problem is you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Man has a purpose on this world, he’s not a frickin smooth stone in the bottom of a river
      Every stone along the riverbed serves it's purpose effortlessly. That is the Tao of the river stone

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Simp take.

        The real purpose of a river stone is to become more. Become a man or become something even higher than a man.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          moronic take, you will never find the way like this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's the only correct take, I don't know if I am going to find it or not, the possibility is very small however I am actively looking it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you won't find it if you actively look, and you won't find it if you think you have to become more. you just have to be

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That a simp take designed for the unwashed low iq masses.
            The one things that probably all eastern philosohies agree on is change, change is required for pretty much everything, and just being is the very opposite of change.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Buzzwords won't get you anywhere friend
            Being is change as change is being
            go with the flow

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, reject the flow that everyone is going with, make your own flow and go with it, let no one else follow you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so you´re still going with the flow

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I am going my own way, making my own path, there is no flow that carries me, but there may be a new flow, new branch of the river left by me.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I hope that one day you will understand you are a part of the path. There can be no new flow, as all flow is new. There can be no new river, as you are the river.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There can obviously be new paths, new branches of a river. Whether you accept this or not is irrelevant, I walk my own path, you can be like a rock on riverbed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The rock will turn into sand, into lava and into mountains again.
            We are the same river my friend.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What if one river is a gay river and the other river is a straight hetero river and they merge somewhere before the sea?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mitchell's is a TERRIBLE translation only surpassed by Howard's Baudelaire. Get the MAIR translation and READ THE FRICKING NOTES.

      Confusion: "I have met a dragon!"

      Lao Tzu probably and proportionate disregard.

      Jesus was an Essene israelite, basically a Buddhist israelite. The story of the Bible is about the nation of Judea which awaits a messiah, expecting him to be a great king and conquer their enemies. When he arrives, he is a humble servant, who rejects the legalism and rituals of the Pharisees and commands people to pursue a transformation of the soul. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind, and love your fellow man as I have loved you.
      Christianity is simultaneously a story about particular people in particular times, centering around the personhood of Jesus Christ, but it also has a creed promoting, in some sense, a rejection of the self and of desires, pursuing a complete inner transformation to become a vessel for God’s love. Daoism represents a path towards enlightenment, but it’s missing a personal element. Christianity has Christ, Hinduism has Krishna. That’s how I see it.

      >the nation of Judea

      1/12 Tribes. Israel /=/ that one southern kingdom. As for the rest, more or less -- Hekalot 'chariot mysticism' is relevant for the apocalypticism and revleations.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You got filtered hard. Everything is already perfect and that includes you, so do anything you want and don't let philosophy get in the way of you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Everything is already perfect
      this doesn’t mean anything

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It means you will never find anything better.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          so you would be fine if you suddenly incarnated as a random human on earth? Some smelly pajeet in an overcrowded Indian city? Or maybe a child with some horrible disease? If you had a wife and you came home and she was fricking another man, would this be perfect to you? Would you do anything to change it? Are you a cuck?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you a cuck?
            Are you? You're suggesting crying over spilled milk. The Tao Te Ching suggests to stop being a homosexual and get on with your life.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            according to you, there is no reason to do anything. No reason to kick her out of the house. No reason to get a divorce. Everything is perfect.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >according to you, there is no reason to do anything
            Rather, do anything, because it'll always be the right move to make.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so clean up her pussy after they’re done? Is that right?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Is that right?
            You have to ask yourself this question. Do you want to? Do you imagine doing so with your tongue? Then go for it, homosexual.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nta but u seem very fixated on this idea of being cucked. So what’s the right move, killing her? The Daodejing will always defeat overthinkers

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn’t be married in the first place. Women are meant to be bred, and minimally supported for the sake of the child. Being a husband is inherently feminine regardless of how loyal the woman is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ahh, I see…a seething incel probably frothing at the mouth, can’t even keep muh woman screeds and rants out of a Daodejing thread. I’ll carry on

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >seething incel
            is that… bad? I thought everything was…. perfect….

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Everything is as it should be. But the sages need not consort with brutes...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And in your mind the l9ne thinker walking his own path is the brute, and the sex obsessed simp is the sage?
            Lmao.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Kill kill killllllll her

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What a toxic and ridiculous idea

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >toxic
            buzzword

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >buzzword
            thought terminating cliche

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >thought terminating cliche
            Yes, that's what a buzzword is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >according to you, there is no reason to do anything
            Rather, do anything, because it'll always be the right move to make.

            isn't it basically the same as the stoic idea of accepting fate or amor fati? Things are as they are and there is no other way things could be than how they are. On a surface level that might look like apathy like the cuckold obsessed anon itt, but to me it's about not perceiving a fact as a personal offense against you from the universe and impotently raging against the heavens about it.

            From a purely fundamental, biological basis humans (and all living creatures) sole purpose is to have sex actually. It is because we have gained consciousness that we have to quibble about how our purpose extends beyond eating, surviving and having sex. If our purpose is nothing else, it is to have sex.

            function is not purpose. An organism's way of replicating itself can't be its purpose anymore than any other physiological function. If sex is purpose than so is metabolism. Does 75 IQ Shar'quandrus with 5 baby mommas fulfills his purpose better than childless Nikola Tesla?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >stop being a homosexual and get on with your life
            what other than getting rich and having kids does that even entail in todays society

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're already wrong when you talk about society when reflecting on what your life should be. You have to know by yourself what you want and should do.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            sure but you also have to look out that you don't get steamrolled by society just like an ascetic in a forest has to be careful about wild animals

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes that's right as a secondary layer you should seek to harmonize with society, because going out of your way to fight society would go against Wu Wei.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes, the philosophy that gestated hordes after hordes of chinese bots. Have you realized how chinks excel at math/science and are the most productive people on earth? Its because they are just bots that dont bother to ask further questions, they just do what needs to be done and thats about it.

    Based? Yes. But also incredibly soulless.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What an ignorant post. Modern China is based on Marxism, which is almost the complete opposite of Taoism

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. The worst parts of the Daodejing are when it says things like “don’t aspire to be wealthy or powerful because that makes the have-nots jealous and harms society.” Totally foreign idea to me as a westerner. When I read that I just see hordes of soulless Chinese bug people and their blank staring faces.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the philosophy that gestated hordes after hordes of chinese bots
      Chinese society has been dominated by various schools of thought throughout history but Confucianism with bouts of Legalism has been generally the standard rather than Taoism. Even the current Chinese government, beneath all the flowery language about Marxism and Socialism, it's mostly a mix of Legalism and Confucianism, both of which have always been a lot more appealing to rulers than Taoism or Mohism.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally all Eastern philosophies and religions are just smoke and mirrors with no actual substance to them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >eastern philosophy on surface: smoke and mirrors
      >western philosophy on surface: le serious thinkers
      >eastern philosophy under the surface: answers the ultimate questions of life, is spiritually enriching and leads to peace and fulfillment
      >western philosophy under the surface: vacuous sparing over language games and pointless autism about “this-person-isms” that are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        cowdungeaterpepe.jpg looks so peaceful.

      • 1 month ago
        Heaven

        >leads to peace and fulfillment
        such a personal endeavour cannot be reduced to mere dualities

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >before enlightenment, get rich have kids
    >after enlightenment, get rich have kids

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i mean it literally works. same with meditation. like you could just meditate all the time. but are you willing to make that change? probably not.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You either get it or you don't, as this thread shows
    Just bee yourself

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think having a Daoist acceptance of existence is the best way to view life, but most of the Daodejing is not about that. It’s about not acting in the world and striving to be invisible, for your own sake as well as for the good of the community. It comes across as soulless. Anti-individual, anti-striving, in a sense, anti-life. But in all fairness you can kind of say that about all religions.
    I like he Hindu belief that there are two ways to achieve eternity: the transcendental path of non-action and enlightenment (basically what the Daodejing describes) and the path of action and sacrifice for the Good (that is, for Krishna).
    I tend to agree that most of the asiatic religions feel “atheistic.” And the pagan religions of the West are too specific and fairytale-like. The religions that unify these two attributes (Christianity, Hinduism, maybe Buddhism) are the most interesting to me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Daodejing shit is moronic, it does not even feel like Daoism but some dumb hindu influence.
      Probably about 90% of various Daoist teachings are fake or some kind of subversion, only the remaining 10%, the very foundation of Daoism are genuine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >only the remaining 10%, the very foundation of Daoism are genuine
        But isn't the Tao Te Ching considered to be the foundational text?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Then its just moronic ideology no different to the isms of present day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't because Daoism had to """evolve""" to compete as an idea against moronic legalists and mohists. Then they pay homage to Laozi but don't follow his words at all.

      where does Daoism stray significantly from Daodejing? asking as somebody who's read parts of the DDJ but doesnt know more besides that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Christianity
      lolwut? Can you elaborate?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus was an Essene israelite, basically a Buddhist israelite. The story of the Bible is about the nation of Judea which awaits a messiah, expecting him to be a great king and conquer their enemies. When he arrives, he is a humble servant, who rejects the legalism and rituals of the Pharisees and commands people to pursue a transformation of the soul. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind, and love your fellow man as I have loved you.
        Christianity is simultaneously a story about particular people in particular times, centering around the personhood of Jesus Christ, but it also has a creed promoting, in some sense, a rejection of the self and of desires, pursuing a complete inner transformation to become a vessel for God’s love. Daoism represents a path towards enlightenment, but it’s missing a personal element. Christianity has Christ, Hinduism has Krishna. That’s how I see it.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is one book where the practice doesnt appear to resemble the first book at all. I guess I'd have to get more history and context to understand the life of a Taoist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't because Daoism had to """evolve""" to compete as an idea against moronic legalists and mohists. Then they pay homage to Laozi but don't follow his words at all.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any good commentaries on this book?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    imagine trying to find a coherent and applicable life philosophy in the 21st century industrialized west, based off some 3000 year old oriental nursery rhymes written by drunkards

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not every reads books with the intent of becoming an acolyte of them.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wu wei is effortlessly going with the flow of life, not necessrily just doing nothing anon.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This board is dumber than /misc/.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Naturally, /misc/ is the smartest board

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is any board on this site actually intellect-fostering

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's really not, and I say this as a right-wing person.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >bro just don't hecking do anything or think about anything or try to perceive or be anything ever
    That isn't what the tao is saying. it is saying to eliminate earthly desires and ambitions, which are based and men, and to base your life in God and the ordinances of Heaven, and then you will actually be 'doing' something for the first time in your life. In part it is advocating for a monastic lifestyle, and denying feelings or care as to what the 'world' thinks. It obviously filtered you hard. Many such cases. Confucious is more or less advocating the same thing, but in different language.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it doesn't help the better known, most available translations took the mystic angle a bit seriously out of a lack of understanding the context in which the work was written. it was written as a manual for a ruler to ponder on

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This the result of angloids translating wu-wei as "non-action." It makes people think that it means dropping out and doing nothing instead of acting in a way that is spontaneous and in tune without conscious striving. Absolutely filtered.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "effortless action" is I think a lot closer, although I'd go further and say it includes *allowing effort*.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >acting in a way that is spontaneous and in tune without conscious striving
      how would act that way if they were about to give you the jab
      how do you act harmoniously about the brain implant

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are they in the room with us right now anon?

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You could also read it as don't resist your resistance

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anon obstructed my tao when he told me I was breathing manually

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your blood is now circulating manually

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit I'm enlightened

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if youre making a thread to talk about the tao, guess what?

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