>buy 4 TB SSD. >expect 4 TB of space. >it's actually 3.63 TB

>buy 4 TB SSD
>expect 4 TB of space
>it's actually 3.63 TB
what a fricking scam

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  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    the issue dates back from the year 1980

    PC computers had 2MB floppies but actually you can only write 1.44MB there

    Same happens for SSD in a larger scale

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      floppies were always advertised as 1.44MB. it was hard drive manufacturers who started this.

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    The good old megabyte vs mebibyte scam

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw you fell for 4tib meme

      humans recognize terabytes, computers recognize tebibytes

      >mebibytes
      >tebibytes
      wtf? people needlessly complicating things for no reason again...

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >wtf? people needlessly complicating things for no reason again...
        >4KB + 96 Bytes page size
        >4.194304 MB sector size
        > ......

        Because computers don't give a frick bout your human 10^ systems

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          a 2^ system is easy to understand

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            So use kebi, mebi, tebi, etc, whats wrong?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You an adult baby?
            mebibyte? Die.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            windows moron is afraid of using something outside of windows schizo world LMAO

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        membyte is no joke

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      megabytes are 1024 kilobytes. kilobytes are 1024 bytes. bytes are 8 bits. anything less is false marketing. next, they'll say a dollar is 110 cents and 100 cents is a dibber so that the taxes you owe are the same amount but cost you more, meanwhile your employer will pay you in "dibbers"

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        kilo is 1000 not 1024

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Don't care, homosexual.

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's cause you're using windows and they calculate storage space differently than the device. Windows uses base 2 calculations, others use base 10.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone who doesn't use the base-2 calculations is a massive homosexual.

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw you fell for 4tib meme

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    humans recognize terabytes, computers recognize tebibytes

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Oq5aqZo.png

      >buy 4 TB SSD
      >expect 4 TB of space
      >it's actually 3.63 TB
      what a fricking scam

      The human eye can't see beyond 2TB

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You think you're so funny, don't you?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      tebibyte is hebrew for 0.9 terabytes

  6. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Bought 10 TB HDD
    >Got 9.07 TB
    CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      CUT MY DISK INTO PIECES, THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
      WINDOWS ON PARTITION ONE
      DONT GIVE A **** IF I REINSTALL LINUX
      THIS IS MY LAST RESORT

      CUT MY DISK INTO PIECES
      I'VE REACHED MY LAST RESORT
      DONT GIVE A **** IF I REINSTALL LINUX
      DO YOU EVEN CARE IF EFI DELETES?
      WOULD IT BE WRONG, WOULD IT BE RIGHT
      IF I UNINSTALL TONIGHT? CHANCES ARE THAT I MIGHT
      RICHARD STALLMAN OUT OF SIGHT
      AND IM CONTEMPLATIN' SLACKWARE DIEEDDDDD

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Man, I miss Papa Roach

  7. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    We should all fricking switch to the base-10 prefixes, what's the fricking point of base-2 prefixes?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >I have 10 fingers so we should therefore base 10
      pathetic

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >what's the fricking point of base-2 prefixes?
      binary

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      agreed. byte(b) = 10 bits. kilo b = 1000 bits. giga b = 1000000 bits. millibit = 1/1000 bits. microbit = 1/1000000 bits. nanobit = 1/1000000000, and so on.
      oh and as to why its currently so fricked up? americans that cant into metric system. they probably came up with the "base 2", "8 bits to a byte", and "hexadecimal" insanity by measuring mainframes with their feet and elbows in between shooting rifles at each other

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        KB will eternally be 1024 Bytes.
        You marketing morons should exterminate yourselves before the mobs come for you.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        nice bait

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >We
      Frick off.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because computers actually operate on base 2.

  8. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Is it Terabytes (Tb) or Tebibytes (TiB)
    Checks out though because windows and some other OSes use TiB not Tb

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      TiB is made up bullshit. It doesnt exist. Its the same as how 4K isnt really 4000 pixels wide, and 2560px1440 is obviously not 2K.
      Then you have QLED, whos sole purpose is to be one tiny squiggle line from being OLED, so buyers get tricked thinking theyre buying an actual OLED.
      Best thing we can do is not use these terms invented by marketeers to trick us into settling for 80% of what we expect

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >4K isnt really 4000 pixels wide
        OY VEY!!!
        HOW CAN WE MARKET THIS TO MAKE MORE MONEY AND SPLIT THE COMPUTING COMMUNITY???

  9. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Using Tebibytes is correct, Windows "teaching" everyone to say Terabytes when they mean Tebibytes was the real cancer.

    A lot FOSS file explorers then do moronic stuff like defaulting to a base-10 system, meaning now your filesizes don't match up with 90% of what the internet says is a filesize.

    The correct way is to use the numerical system Microsoft also uses, whilst actually calling them KiB, MiB, GiB and TiB.

    You may now suck my gibidick, homosexuals.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Windows long predates the fictional word tebibyte. you dont tell windows what is or isnt a terabyte, Windows tells you what a terabyte is.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Windows doesn't tell me or anyone else anything.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The correct way is to use the numerical system Microsoft also uses
      Yes.
      >whilst actually calling them KiB, MiB, GiB and TiB
      No. Shut up, homosexual.

  10. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    YOU GOT PUNKED BOY

  11. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I guess it is fine, just don't use windows or mac PLSEAE

  12. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Some memory is reserved for remotely activated cp stash, in case you find cure for cancer.

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    some people can't be saved. that burdens not on you.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      how can he zoom with one hand

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        long fingers

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >buy 16 GB RAM
    >expect 16 GB
    >it's actually 16 GB

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah good point. What's the go here

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS AKSHUALLY GEBIBUBUBYTERINO IT'S INCORRECT DELETE THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      it's the exact same shit unit

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Naw.
        >free
        > total
        >Mem: 16247260
        I have 16GB RAM installed, that it is showing over 16,000,000 kB is already enough to show that RAM doesn't do the same shit.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          yours is much closer to the correct size
          they certainly don't stick to a consistent size, my "8G" of RAM(7825220) doesn't seem to match half of your 16G
          but it seems to depend on the part too
          my 1TB hdd has 931,53 GiB while my 1TB nvme has 953,89 GiB

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        run "cat /proc/meminfo | grep Reclaimable." free doesn't show memory space that cannot be used by user applications. on most systems free total + the reclaimable is your correct amount. If it's not then you might have to also consider memory being used for integrated graphics. 'lsmem' will show the correct amount, regardless.

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Marketing:
    1 TB = 1 terra (trillion) bytes = 1,000,000,000,000
    >Retality:
    1 TB = 1024 GB; 1 GB = 1024 MB; 1 MB = 1024 KB; 1 KB = 1024 Bytes
    Thus
    1 TB = 1,099,511,627,776 Bytes

    TL; DR: You got scammed by marketing morons.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >1 TB = 1024 GB; 1 GB = 1024 MB; 1 MB = 1024 KB; 1 KB = 1024 Bytes
      kys

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's the convention since ancient times, Black person.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >ancient times
          >kilogram = 1000 gram
          >kilometre = 1000 meters
          >kilobyte>1024
          >since ancient times
          >Black person

          You are a true moron with a questionable psychological state. Please commit. Thanx

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >A computer is a SI (System de' Internationale) machine
            No.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >The International System of Units (SI) defines the prefix kilo as a multiplication factor of 1000 (103); therefore, one kilobyte is 1000 bytes

            Black person, you are either a snow Black person from Russia or you are using windows because you are gay.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >T-t-the F-f-french say...
            Don't care.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            what the frick Black person, explain me any reason why you would use kilo mega giga for 2^ bytes, while having the different logic for distance and mass, very interesting to hear it from a Black person

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The French don't even speak English and you want me to speak their language? Frick off.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >uncomfortable to face the facts
            >UHHHHHH FRENCH IDK YO WANT TO SPEAK FRENCH RIGHT!!!???

            you are braindead

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Why the frick should I, personally, accept your deranged redefinition of a term that I used long before you entered the scene?
            The International Bureau of Weights and Measures (Bureau international des Poids et Mesures) could issue a world-wide decree stating that every computer must now use the base 10 system and I'd tell them to get fricked and mobilize the English world to defend itself.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            you should personally kys, no one cares bout you, just make sure to enjoy the piss on your face every single time you open your mouth

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Are you French?
            You need to learn how to use proper grammar before trying to act as any kind of authority about what lingo I should accept, Black person. You are just like a troony trying to force me to say that you are a real woman... no, you are not, and NO, I will not call 1,000 Bytes a Kilobyte. It's an insult to history itself.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >windows
            >It's an insult to history itself

            fricking windows Black person stop here

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            They only managed to inject their base 10 nonsense into Mac OS once Steve Jobs died.

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If I ever hear anyone say "Mibibyte," "Kibibyte," "Gibibyte," or "Tibibyte" IRL I will literally punch them to death. Fricking baby-talking scum.

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >buy 4 TB
    >expect 4 TiB
    Moron

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You got 4,000,000,000,000 bytes.

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Only a drooling moron would claim 1TB is 1,000GB.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      but it is...

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >b-b-but t-the French say...
        STFU. They are as much an authority as my excrement.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, you said (base 10 unit) is not (base 10 unit). 1 Terabyte is 1,000 Gigabytes...

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >1 Terabyte isn't* 1,000 Gigabytes!*

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The new normal in bidenomics

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The history of the term megabyte (legally defined as 1024 kilobytes) has its roots in the binary number system and how it was applied to computer memory.
    Since the early days of computing (as started and flourished in the United States) memory has been measured in powers of 2, which is the base of the binary number system. This is because computers use binary logic to process and store information, where each piece of data is represented by a series of 0s and 1s.
    In this context, a kilobyte was defined and forever set as 2^10, or 1024 bytes, following the binary logic. Similarly, a megabyte was defined (and forever set) as 2^20 or 1024 kilobytes, which equates to 1,048,576 bytes.
    This convention was widely adopted in the computer industry (because it developed in the United States), and it became the standard definition of a megabyte. However, it's worth noting that this definition differs from the French metric system, where a "mega" byte would be 1,000,000 bytes (10^6). The French falsely believe they are able to enforce their linguistic rules upon everyone else.
    Over time, the discrepancy between the binary-based definitions and the metric system became a source of marketing advantage where less-capacious devices were marketed with the metric measure. To address this, the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC; located in Geneva, Switzerland, French adjacent) introduced some prefixes in 1998 to distinguish between binary and decimal multiples. The French leaped upon this situation and declared EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD must now use their system for digital memory. According to these incorrect standards, a "megabyte" (MB) should refer to 1,000,000 bytes, while a (newly defined) "mebibyte" (MiB) should refer to 1,048,576 bytes. This correctly angered and enraged the founders of the convention.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Literally explains why the French are scum, why it's called "Soccer," and why we should all appreciate the fact that we see "Miles" on our odometers
      Thanks.

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >buy 4 terabites MEMED
    >get 3.6 terabytes MEMED
    The problem, officer?

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Scam artists (marketers):
    WE CAN JUST USE WHICHEVER DEFINITION MAKES OUR PRODUCT LOOK LARGER!

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The likely origins of the actual problem here is that while addressing of memory would go in powers of 2, storage originally could be literally any value.
    When we started on punch cards, then tape, then magnetic storage, they weren't limited to storage sizes with a power of 2 so they just went base 10/multiple of 10 and it wasn't much of an issue.
    But as time has gone on the difference between base 10/multiple of 10 and power of 2 has grown to a significant portion, rather than a hidden fraction. But, importantly, as we go into solid state storage that power of 2 addressability is now necessary and the SSD makers should just use it to give the power 2 amount of storage, but they're using that excess as spare for wear leveling and shit.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >they just went base 10/multiple of 10
      French lies.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >But as time has gone on the difference between base 10/multiple of 10 and power of 2 has grown to a significant portion, rather than a hidden fraction.
      when storage memory sizes were measured in kilobytes those kilobytes mattered a hell of a lot more than the missing 2 tb on an 18tb disk. the issue didnt exist though.

      However, computers use powers of 2 because they are binary systems. using base 10 inevitabley leads to waste. we use bytes because 8 = 2 ^ 3, hexadecimal because 16 = 2^4. hexadecimal fills the entire range of bit combinations for 4 bits. if you use base 10 you are wasting 6 bit combinations. it's the same logic with 1000 bytes vs 1024 bytes, 8192 digits use up 13 bits, 8000 digits require 13 bits but waste 192 combinations. 1 terabyte is 8796093022208 bits, a number which requires 43 bits to represent. a french terabyte also requires 43 bits to represent, but this time, we are wasting 796,093,022,208 bit combinations. Yes, there are tricks to improve the memory waste, but you cannot eliminate it and you are trading it off for processing inefficiency. Is the waste noticeable when we are only wasting a bit at a time here and there? No. But there is no sound reason for people to have pushed a switch to decimal to reason about fundamentally binary systems.
      Why don't we encode color information in base 10? Because fundamentally it's inefficient and inaccurate. Colors are created out of specific bit combinations. It's apparent how moronic using base 10 colors would be, because you either lose colors or you create undefined behavior (is 959 the same as 245/F5 or is it 246(F6)?) We don't use base 10 for colors because people can see it. We use base 10 for disk space because it sells better.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >However, computers use powers of 2 because they are binary systems.
        Which is important when addressing, yes.
        But when you have physical storage mediums like punch cards, tape or even magnetic storage, you can store an arbitrary amount of bytes (or bits). On punch cards and tape you just read all of what is there. You could potentially address a particular punch card and then a particular byte within a punch card, but then you can still have an arbitrary number of total bytes available. And that's basically what happened with hard drives. They're divided into heads, cylinders and sectors so you can end up with an arbitrary number of total bytes, it doesn't have to be in powers of 2.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >B-b-but physical storage mediums
          Holy frick you morons will just come up with whatever excuse you can think of, won't you?
          Die, scum.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'm explaining why the problem arose, not why it should continue.
            This is irrelevant now with solid storage. The flash controllers can address anywhere directly, so it's all just power 2. Unfortunately, due to the history the operating systems tend to see storage as "block devices", so to the computer it still appears like a head/cylinder/sector device, but that's just a facade now.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          How long before you try to redefine the Byte as 10 Bits?

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I seriously fricking hate "people" who try to say 1MB is 1000KB. Wake up buddy. The convention was 1024 for DECADES before the SI freaks decided to stick their disgusting fingers into the lingo.

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >IQfy - Technology
    Seriously, there need to be two boards. One for IQfy migrants for threads like these, e-celeb stuff and brandwars, and one for people who actually use tech.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      there should be 3 boards
      one for consoomers
      one for programming and software
      and one for ai

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >In the 1960s, computer scientists and engineers (building the foundations for modern computing) needed a way to express large amounts of data storage and transmission. The binary number system, which uses base 2, was already widely used in computing
    >they quickly settled on the kilobyte (originally the "kilobinary byte") being 1024 (2^10) bytes
    >In 1998 the French said "m-m-muh SI unit prefixes!!!"
    Such levels of disrespect could ONLY come from the French. Retaliation not just obligatory... it's a necessity.

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't give a frick either way, Because I Tyrone all my storage drives. HDDs, nVMEs and SSDs

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    my 960pro wont even boot, bios wont even touch it says it has a problem

    lost my whole work machine... i am beyond pissed, Frick NVME its just as bad as spinning rust with all the thermal issues.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      How much RAM do you have?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        32 homiebytes

        did you reseat it?
        i've performed constant read/write operations on nvme at 100% throughput for months at a time, with no special cooling and the only issue was sometimes during the summer it overheat and disconnect until i rebooted. nvme gets hot but realistically its other components pushing it too far. you can throw a heat sink and fan on it. unless its a laptop then ur fricked

        its bad i have a PCI m2 adapter and its bad

        >tfw got thermaled

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >32GB
          >PCI M.2 adapter
          ...
          Buy a new PC dude... You've put in 32GB, you're either moronic enough or wealthy enough to buy a new computer. Sorry you lost your data (maybe recoverable?), but you need to move on...

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      did you reseat it?
      i've performed constant read/write operations on nvme at 100% throughput for months at a time, with no special cooling and the only issue was sometimes during the summer it overheat and disconnect until i rebooted. nvme gets hot but realistically its other components pushing it too far. you can throw a heat sink and fan on it. unless its a laptop then ur fricked

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    mebibyte, gibibyte, etc are unpronounceable baby drooly moron talk.
    I propose we use the following:

    Killer-byte
    Megger-byte
    Gigger-byte
    Terror-byte

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's because windows lists disk space in TiB and calls it TB while manufacturers do it in TB, that's 1024 bytes vs 1000

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      thats because shit Black person degenerates using windoze

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >TiB
      KYS.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      windows lists disk space in TB and calls it TB.
      while HD manufacturers list TB but give you 10% less

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You bought a 4TB storage device but your OS is actually displaying TiB while telling you it's TB instead.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      morons who unironically use TiB, trying to force the naming convention upon those of us who invented TB in the first place NEED severe punishment.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm a moron
        yes, we know. again, frick off and jannies, do your job.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        kilo mega giga tera have always been base 10, base 2 is the made up measure.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          2 is reality, 10 is made up

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >TiB
      marketing term to make HD manufacturers look like they arent robbing you of 10% of your space

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a marketing term you absolute moron, those units are commonly used when referring to things like system memory or GPU VRAM capacity. Those are actually measured in GiB.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >GiB
          fantasy nonsense

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          So when someone asks you how much RAM you have, do you say 32 GIBs? No, you dont. No one says that. You say 32 GIGs.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >marketing term
        marketing term

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >buy 4TB
    >get 4TB
    >shit up IQfy with your moronation.
    frick off.

  34. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Biggest scam going and been that way for years

  35. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >4TB isn't really 4TB
    >$100 isn't actually 100 dollars
    >Woman isn't actually woman

  36. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >4TB SSD
    >Write 4TB
    >Health: 96%
    XD

  37. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >TiB
    loonix headcanon you will never be a real unit of measurement

  38. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't they just fricking give us the option? People will buy it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Linux needs to give us the option of using TB as 1024*1024*1024*1024 Bytes.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        KDE is going to soon I think

  39. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >TiB
    Marketing term.

  40. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    every single post here is wrong, WTF? every single piece of computer software is written in base 2, the problem was/is hard drive manufacturers that sold their products using the (wrong) 1 Gigabyte = 1000000000 bytes because 1. it is cheaper to make hdd with less platters, and 2. computer illiterate buyers outnumber those who know better by a fricking lot so who was going to care?. the problem lasted long enough and enough idiots complained (like op) about their "missing" capacity that the industry was forced to adapt the wrong definition for Gigabyte and come up with the moronic Gibibyte for the correct way to define capacity.

  41. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Genders
    KB, MB, GB, TB, etc.
    >Mental illnesses
    KiB, MiB, GiB, TiB, etc.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Sex
      K, M, G, T

  42. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    blame SI-Black folk

  43. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    metrictards ruin everything as usual

  44. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >buy 2 terabyte SSD
    >get 1.8 Skibidibytes instead

  45. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    That's just windows mislabeling 3.63 TiB as TB. The storage is still 4 * 10^12 bytes.
    https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=4+tb+to+tib

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >TiB
      hebrew unit of measure

      >wolframalpha
      mossad website

  46. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I see baby bought his first hard disk

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