>by 1900 in america, only 2% of homes would have indoor plumbing, only 5% would have any sort of electricity, less than 1% had a telephone, about 1...

>by 1900 in america, only 2% of homes would have indoor plumbing, only 5% would have any sort of electricity, less than 1% had a telephone, about 1% were atheistic, under 0.1% owned a car, over half were self employed, very few worked for corporations, almost half were involved in farming, two-thirds of the population lived rurally, one in five babies died in infancy, races were segregated, the demographics were 90% homogenous, the supermarket did not exist, and nearly all money was spent on "needs" instead of "wants"
Would it be reasonable to say that, as far as the common lifestyle goes, the average person in 1900 had more with someone from a thousand years ago than someone a hundred years in the future?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Urban rate in 1900 was 30% vs now at 90%. So a resounding yes.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are many ways 900 would be vastly different to 1900 in ways that aren't really true the other way around
    >the world population was about 1/8th of 1900, practically empty, and I imagine if you went on a pilgrimmage, there may be days where you see nobody at all
    >nearly all the world is untouched nature, occasionally interrupted by apocalyptic ruins of long past civilization you wouldn't know anything about
    >medical knowledge is extremely limited, and what causes/fixes disease is almost completely guesswork, which is the main reason population growth is rather slow until the 19th century (although 900 and 1800 would be pretty close in this regard)
    >wildlife is a serious threat, hunting is a difficult game, and you are more or less at the mercy of those who are stronger than you, since problems cannot be immediately deleted with the pull of a trigger
    >even if someone in 1900 does not have the radio or television or internet, they likely DO have the newspaper (80% could read), which can inform them/psyop them on the surrounding world beyond their vision on the regular
    >just about every productive and important task would have had at least one invention to make it easier between 900 and 1900
    >the amount of societal complexity and bureaucracy in 1900 is such that I would not call it a "simple life" relative to the 900 existence which is barely a step above unga bunga days
    It would be a massive adjustment in either direction, really

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not even close

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. There were many important differences, for instance if it's 1400 you probably have some linen growing in the commons(or sheep) and women would hand spoon the thread and so on
    By 1900 you could've bought mass produced clothes or at least textiles and small scale sheep herding and linen farming died out already.
    This applies to a lot of basic materials.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >only 5% would have any sort of electricity,
    That seems a bit too much actually, electricity was mostly an industrial thing at that time. Telephones didn't need your own electricity until very recently. Still, electricity was still more in its infancy, and cars were only for the rich until Ford and his assembly line.
    But there were also trains, steamships, first modern style bicycles, and mechanized mass production. Technologically, it was at worst somewhere in the middle. But socially, we might be closer to the 900 than they were, in fact 1900 might have been around the peak. The regression in the past century has been insane.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >But socially, we might be closer to the 900 than they were, in fact 1900 might have been around the peak.
      Explain how we are more like early medieval people than people a century ago. I agree we've degenerated, but not in that particular direction.
      >That seems a bit too much actually, electricity was mostly an industrial thing at that time.
      I just quickly googled that and accepted the first line of text. The electricity was probably just for lamps or other low draw devices, nothing like what became the norm half a century later.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Explain how we are more like early medieval people than people a century ago.
        In the way that the majority were burping bumpkins with little expectations beyond not starving and killing each other. The only difference is the tech and education.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Every nation on earth has government programs to provide people with free food asking nothing in return. Every Christian and Muslim c**t also have massive religious driven food charities every week to feed the picky eaters with choice foods also crime is at a historic all time low. You're moronic

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not sure how it's meant to contradict what I wrote.

            >The only difference is the tech and education
            Cam on it's not even close.
            In 900 AD England justice was held in public trials and the local men were all the jury. It was legal to kill someone, provided you haven't committed some particular infraction like hiding the body or purposefully poking its eyes out, all you had to so was to "buy a spear or bear it"(compensate the family or face a blood feud), if someone stole something and was suspected of hiding in a townsmen would've some of their assets confiscated and frozen until he was found etc. etc. etc.
            To compare it with 1900 America is completely preposterous.

            >It was legal to kill someone,
            I really don't think so.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The only difference is the tech and education
          Cam on it's not even close.
          In 900 AD England justice was held in public trials and the local men were all the jury. It was legal to kill someone, provided you haven't committed some particular infraction like hiding the body or purposefully poking its eyes out, all you had to so was to "buy a spear or bear it"(compensate the family or face a blood feud), if someone stole something and was suspected of hiding in a townsmen would've some of their assets confiscated and frozen until he was found etc. etc. etc.
          To compare it with 1900 America is completely preposterous.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >all you had to so was to "buy a spear or bear it"(compensate the family or face a blood feud), i
            What is wrong with that?
            Imagine killers families were required to pay exorbitant money (it was really steep summs for that times and people's class) under threat of exile. US would quickly loose all their murder predisposed communities to ostracism.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think it's real.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weregild

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >That seems a bit too much actually, electricity was mostly an industrial thing at that time.
      Major cities like New York and Chicago VERY rapidly adopted electrical lighting, far faster than any other parts of the country. That's probably the 5% and it's probably almost exclusively in reference to electrical lighting.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no lmao, even the most rural of Africans and chinks have more in common with people of today than those 100 years ago

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP I don't know about America, but for much of the agrarian countries life in 1900 would be more similar to 900 than in 2024.

      Rural people today have electricity, smartphones, motorized vehicles, running water, and TONS of plastic garbage thrown around everywhere. Where I come from my ancestors didn't have basic modern things like electricity, indoor plumbing, roads, and what not until the 1960s. The world has changed so much in the past 100 years it can be unbelievable at times.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    90% literacy vs like 9%

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Muh material conditions
    What counts is the spirit, the ideas of a person, not what garb their clothes are made of, or wether they talk to their loved ones over phone or irl.
    Kys.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Material conditions inform the spirit. Nobody in 2000 BC could have the spirit of someone in 2000 AD.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    and now?
    >fate of empires
    sads

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    and now?
    >self destruct
    sads

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