Can machines be sentient?

Artificial intelligence is all algorithms, but what exactly is sentience?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody knows. We can't even define it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this:

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >We can't even define it.
      We haven't even created the language or defined the words to define it. When people start talking about sentience and consciousness they start talking about almost a dozen different ideas and concepts but use just those 2 words for everything.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God knows, as do I. God told me, he could tell you too if you'd listen. You won't though.

      https://i.imgur.com/2vpZuPk.jpeg

      this:

      Which part of the chemical machine is consciousnesses? Which protein makes you feel love? What about hate? Which chemical makes be wonder if aliens exist?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >We can't even define it
      This.

      https://i.imgur.com/0Zs6EF8.jpeg

      Artificial intelligence is all algorithms, but what exactly is sentience?

      The only thing that can be objectively measured and defined right now is intelligence. So until people come up with an objective measurement/definition for consciousness and thus solving the Hard Problem, NPC/p-zombie, and solipsism..etc., nobody actually knows what is sentience.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The only thing that can be objectively measured and defined right now is intelligence.
        Eh, gonna disagree with you respectfully on that one. We also can't rigorously define "intelligence" much less measure it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Source on the objective definition of intelligence?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >muh source
          Goddamn NPCs, you need expert opinion before you can tie your shoes too?
          Intelligence is defined in terms of input/output; specifically given a range of inputs what are the quality of outputs.

          >The only thing that can be objectively measured and defined right now is intelligence.
          Eh, gonna disagree with you respectfully on that one. We also can't rigorously define "intelligence" much less measure it.

          >We also can't rigorously define "intelligence" much less measure it
          Respectfully, what do you think it is that we do with tests, or are you proposing they are actually useless and we should do away with any and all measurements on the quality of human individual and AI outputs.

          Intelligence and consciousness are two seperate things. They might or might not be linked behind the curtain but outwardly they are two distinct entities. The former can be defined and measured objectively while the latter can only be observed by an individual in himself presently.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you need expert opinion before you can tie your shoes too?
            It's how the atheistic socialist school systems raise kids, to trust government and "the experts" as the supreme authority in their lives rather than God Almighty, because they're taught life magically came from nonlife and then magically transformed into all life and this all came from literally nothing and they call it science and tell kids to believe and have faith and recite the atheistic religious dogma on the test or else they fail the class. You literally need blind faith to believe in this creation myth and they call it science, it's even mathematically impossible and they still call it science, this is why people think man is the supreme authority because in their naturalistic worldview (and naturalism is self-refuting too btw) there's nothing greater than man. And if there's some "expert" man, either in government or on the television, then they must be right and we must obey them.

            We've always been at war with Eurasia. Men can marry other men. War is peace. Boys can become women. Freedom is slavery. Life came from nonlife. Ignorance is strength.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You sound like a moron. It’s “we were always at war with East Asia.” You haven’t even read the book. Fricking Christcuck

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >to trust government and "the experts" as the supreme authority in their lives rather than God Almighty,
            You've got to be kidding me.
            Do you not see the irony of your position here, you've merely switched one authority to another; both you and them can't think for yourselves.

            >Respectfully, what do you think it is that we do with tests
            An extremely rudimentary AI could get what ever the max result in an IQ test happens to be, trivially I may add so their true IQ should be even higher, in the 300-500 range.

            That's right, the present AI models can far surpass your average human in intelligence in specific categories. General intelligence however is still in the works though that shouldn't long now.
            Intelligence, though complex, has always been a known quantity.
            Consciousness on the other hand is ever still a mystery.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Respectfully, what do you think it is that we do with tests
            An extremely rudimentary AI could get what ever the max result in an IQ test happens to be, trivially I may add so their true IQ should be even higher, in the 300-500 range.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You won't be able to create a sentient AI until you solve the binding problem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_problem

    https://qualiacomputing.com/2022/06/19/digital-computers-will-remain-unconscious-until-they-recruit-physical-fields-for-holistic-computing-using-well-defined-topological-boundaries/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pressure variation. A sense of gravity gives you a sense of singularity.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Philosophy threads are not science nor math, off-topic in IQfy, sorry.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >but what exactly is sentience?
    alignment and connection with the universe's consciousness.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Conscious human being > LLM > human NPC

    This is the official ranking of consciousness.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We cannot define sentience for the same reason that you cannot bite your own teeth.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the metaphysical problem of reductionism. Is it possible to define one's subjective experience of reality purely symbolically? The answer is obviously no, it's not possible.

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