can machines think?

can machines think?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Only beings with a soul created by God are capable of thinking.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Czeched

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Define "think".
    Computers at least do math. Is that thinking? Bacteria can react to their environment in real time. Is that thinking? Define your terms.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can biological machines think? Is the human brain just a device to communicate with an immortal soul?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Machines can do math and shuffle symbols. If you believe that is thinking then machines can think. But some other anons are right, machines don't have creative souls and can not invent things like people.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Machines have already created novel molecules and invented new protein folds that have eluded humans for decades.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The humans created the machines so the humans folded the protein and created the molecule

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Single cell organisms and the environment created the humans, so single cell organisms and the environment folded the proteins and created the molecule, and by your logic humans have no more creativity, thoughtfulness, and inventiveness than machines since everything is beholden to a lower power.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They aren’t considered rational/they didn’t have an objective to make humans. Let’s not talk nonsense here

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They aren’t considered rational
            They hunt, feed, ration resources, measure and calculate just like any rational agent.

            >they didn’t have an objective to make humans
            You know this because you yourself are a single cell organism?
            Also people don't usually have the final product as their objective, they have an end goal and slowly develop a product over time that fits that goal, so the fact that circumstances chance over time must mean that humans can't be rational by your logic of objective based intelligence.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Listen to yourself motherfricker. When a human fixes a car with a wrench, the wrench did not fix the car and neither did the human’s momma. This shit is obvious and shouldn’t need to be argued.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >When a human fixes a car with a wrench
            When a gigafactory automatically assembles a car, it built the car, not some individual person.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nope. Unless it can at least act like a human.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Building cars is much more difficult for a person acting like a human than it is for a gigafactory that was specifically designed to build cars at a high rate.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can Black folk?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think about my divine wife all day

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no. anyone who believes machines can think must also believe they are machines and that is a very impoverished view of human cognition

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's only impoverished if you make it so. Some people really do go "The human mind is just a machine, so our choices don't matter/everything is pointless/morality isn't real/whatever the frick" but that's bullshit. We shouldn't dim our view of ourselves because we are machines, we should expand our view of what machines can be in light of ourselves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That stuff doesn't matter because it is all imaginary and in the end, the only thing it will help you do is die.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And yet, we believe. And yet, we live.
          I'm willing to admit that some or all of that might end up not being real. I'm sure I don't understand any of it as well as I could. But I see no point to nihilism, and I don't think "Philosophers/scientists/mathematicians haven't been able to figure this out, therefore it's not real" is a very compelling argument.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yet, 99.999999% of the people who ever lived have no bearing on your life because it doesn't really matter.
            None of it is real, it is all just some combination of imagination and sensation.

            >"Philosophers/scientists/mathematicians haven't been able to figure this out, therefore it's not real"
            That just contradicts what you said before since now you are saying it doesn't even matter if scientists prove that the human mind is just a machine because you will just believe what you want to believe anyway.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm already sure the human mind is "just" a machine. It would take a lot of philosophical infrastructure to convince me it's even logically coherent to talk about it being anything but a machine.

            And I'm not committed to believing any of those things, like I said. If I'm convinced otherwise I'm convinced otherwise. But, yes, I will likely continue to believe the things I believe, as humans tend to do.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remove everything about you that is mechanical and then see how far your thinking can get you.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Barkon

    Are farts secretly spiritual shit monkeys that can be sent to other people, pointlessly weaponized or promoted by taking part in pointless spiritual war or other parts of the body with different scenarios etc?

    Same answer. Yes.

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