Christian here struggling with understanding why god would create the endless void of space and billions of barren stars.

Christian here struggling with understanding why god would create the endless void of space and billions of barren stars. This is troubling my faith, what could be the explanation? This seems counter to Christianity or really any religion. I guess it could be like what CS lewis describes in the space trilogy, there is one God and each planet has a keeper and earth’s has become evil.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stars are angel kingdoms. You can buy a telescope but the telescope will not grant you the ability to see spirits. All stars and planet are fully inhabited by the hosts of Yahweh.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why not? He is all-mighty, he can do whatever he want, a tiny ant is the same to him/it than massive galaxy at the other cerner of material realm, at the end a creator is bigger than his creation and know it better.

      God created an infinite playground for His most cherished creation, humanity. What's the problem?

      None of these explanations make sense because Christians always say that we can never understand God's ways - he is apparently beyond our understanding. So surely that would be the Christian answer.

      It's almost as if all religions are lies and that's why they're always completely inconsistent.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know, but in case a God exists, the size of Universe isn't a problem. Just to start with massive MMORPG games are an example that the size of a world doesn't make its creator less legit.

        Even the Bible use the size argument to glorify God.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Even the Bible use the size argument to glorify God.
          Which just demonstrates the illogicality and falseness of all religions. One day they say "we can't understand God's ways, stop asking questions" then the next day they say "yeah we know all sorts of features of God, we know he wants good things for us, even though we claimed earlier that he's beyond our understanding".

          Dont worry about what Christians say and look for the word of God himself. Genesis is a priceless gift.

          God doesn't exist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >God doesn't exist.
            you wished, lol.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dont worry about what Christians say and look for the word of God himself. Genesis is a priceless gift.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You want the Gospel to be consistent with what a bunch of rice asiatics made up? Otherwise God is wrong?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          God just doesn't exist. He is entirely fictional.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not? He is all-mighty, he can do whatever he want, a tiny ant is the same to him/it than massive galaxy at the other cerner of material realm, at the end a creator is bigger than his creation and know it better.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The explanation is that GOD DOESN'T EXIST, God is a fictional invention that humans created.

    The universe is vast and we don't understand everything about it yet. We need to do more science in order to understand more about the universe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >universe big therefore God fictional
      >we need to be a big heckin science also
      bordering on parody with this one

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >This is troubling my faith, what could be the explanation?
      Read the book of Job, especially the end. It will not give you answers but it will help you understand why some questions are pointless, especially ones that don't have direct relevance to you serving God.
      >each planet has a keeper and earth’s has become evil
      Each nation had a keeper and they became evil. Apostles were sent out to reclaim the nations.

      The burden of proof is on you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >direct relevance to you serving God
        this just in, omnipotent being needs servants.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Needs?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what the frick is wrong with all the morons here? the post I am replying to is implying that gawd needs anything, I am just pointing it out. did you get some sort of circular telling you to pretend whoever points out the inanities should be treated as if he claimed the inanity? are you indian?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the post I am replying to is implying that gawd needs anything
            No.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God created an infinite playground for His most cherished creation, humanity. What's the problem?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why did he put all the other solar systems light years away from us then? There is no other habitable planet anywhere near us. The closest celestial bodies to us are inhospitable. We can't survive a couple seconds on the Moon or Mars without a space suit. If Gid created the quadrillions of other planets solely for us why didn't he make them habitable for us like Earth, and why did he make it impossible to reach them without scifi technology?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >why can't I live on the playground
        >why do I need toys on the playground
        That's the kind of playground it is.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Your playground analogy is moronic

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Perhaps. Asking why a playground isn't a home is a moronic way of tackling it.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You aren't Christian, but the answer to your question is that they serve a greater function that you don't understand. The endless void of space and billions of barren stares have functions. For example, stars are used to light the night sky and they are also used for navigation. Imagine if there were only a thousand of them, how much harder would our lives have been? Maybe we wouldn't have survived. The endless void of space is also governed by a rate of expansion which allows for the "spreading out" of cosmic material, but if it was too fast then it would prevent the formation of planets.
    Basically, you are just ignorant about astronomy. It is basically the equivalent of having a crisis of faith because you don't understand how your liver works. Just read a book, literally. It's not counter to Christianity for you to be uneducated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the answer to your question is that they serve a greater function that you don't understand
      you obviously have no way to know this. plus, the problem is much worse: having a 'greater function' or indeed a function is a characteristic of limited beings. an omnipotent entity does not need things to have a function, to achieve some end he can make happen directly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >you obviously have no way to know this
        Yes I do, it's called learning. We can literally calculate the cosmic rate of expansion and determine that earth couldn't have formed it it was too fast or too slow.
        >an omnipotent entity does not need things to have a function
        Okay, let's say that I agree. It doesn't matter because the universe was created for US, not for God. So it literally does not matter.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          'this' refers to 'they serve a higher function', as it is evident.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Just read a book
      That's what you and every religious person should do, and then you'll realise that religion isn't plausible.

      >universe big therefore God fictional
      >we need to be a big heckin science also
      bordering on parody with this one

      The reason God is fictional is because there's no evidence for him and he's clearly invented by humans.
      >we need to be a big heckin science also
      Yes.

      >This is troubling my faith, what could be the explanation?
      Read the book of Job, especially the end. It will not give you answers but it will help you understand why some questions are pointless, especially ones that don't have direct relevance to you serving God.
      >each planet has a keeper and earth’s has become evil
      Each nation had a keeper and they became evil. Apostles were sent out to reclaim the nations.

      The burden of proof is on you.

      >The burden of proof is on you
      No it isn't. Pic related.

      >God doesn't exist.
      you wished, lol.

      He doesn't. Prove he does. Show me some evidence of God, like a photo of him.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't have to prove what I say because teapot
        Way to admit you understand neither the burden of proof nor Russell's thought experiment.

        I think my job is done here.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The irony. Glad I could prove you wrong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Adding "irony" and "prove" to the list of concepts you need to catch up with.

            It really brings me satisfaction to see that 2008 fedorasphere and neoatheism really only resulted in one thing - theists learning all these concepts and now whooping secular ass with it lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            All you've done is cry like a b***h because you didn't understand how you were BTFO.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty sure I asked you to fill your burden and you didn't. Anon, the moment you start actually articulating your arguments instead of namedropping concepts you hope would do the job, you'll see how little you have to work with. Right now you not only have nothing, you failed your own criteria. A loss.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Pretty sure I asked you to fill your burden and you didn't
            Yeah because the burden is on you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You made the claim, Anon.
            It's fine, I'll take you through the whole thing. I owe you that much for being impolite.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You may as well claim that there's a giant gorilla living in an underground cave on Pluto, and that I can't deny it, because I can't explicitly disprove it. The gorilla COULD be there. Yeah I suppose he could, but I think it's very unlikely that there's a gorilla there. He'd need life support. Oxygen. And how did he get to Pluto?

            Same with God of course, it's a very implausible assertion and there's no evidence to support it. It's far more likely that humans invented the idea of God because they wanted a simple explanation for the questions of the universe.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't claim anything. You did. Hence the burden.

            And now you made another:
            >implausible
            Based on?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I didn't claim anything
            You obviously believe in God

            >Based on?
            God is meant to be a nonphysical, supernatural entity, but I'm not aware of any nonphysical or supernatural entities being discovered in the universe, or any compelling evidence for them at all. So there's two possibilities:
            1) Nonphysical/supernatural things like God exist.
            2) Humans just made up nonphysical/supernatural things like God (and ghosts, etc) because they wanted simple explanations for their questions.
            I think the second possibility is more likely.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >>I didn't claim anything
            >You obviously believe in God
            Absolutely! I actually believe in about 200,000 things, none of which I'll be proving until you manage to fill that one burden you have been trying to dodge for hours.

            >based on "I'm not aware of..."
            >based on "I think [this] is more likely"
            Ah. So based on nothing at all.

            Just fill your burden, Anon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Okay I'll fill my burden. You're a moron. It really is incumbent upon me to call you a moron.

            I love you anon

            You agree with what I said? Cool if so.

            >Christian here struggling with understanding why god would create the endless void of space and billions of barren stars.
            He wouldn't. Heliocentrism, along with big bang, evolution, globe earth, are nothing but anti-biblical secular ideas with no evidence whatsoever.
            I am at awe at people who manage to balance these two polar opposite notions.

            There is a lot of evidence for the Big Bang, for evolution, and for Earth being roughly spherical.

            What do you think all those little lights are in that big black thing in the sky at night?

            He probably thinks they're Christmas lights put there by God, because he's an idiot.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA.
            TLDR: Russell is kinda moronic
            If I were to observe a teapot orbiting, I would then propose a teapot is the reason for my observations. I would offer my observations as the evidence or proof.
            Now if some other person comes and observes or fails to observe the teapot, he might offer a different conjecture on my observations. In the specific case where he fails to observe my teapot, he has not negated my prior observations. There is in fact a burden on him to explain why my prior observations are wrong, or at least why circumstances have changed. Otherwise, I, a source you lack reason to doubt, can continue with believing my prior conjecture as well as anyone else who I tell. You, the anti-observer, haven’t negated my observations and can only offer your negative proof after the fact. Thus your claim can only advance as far as there is no teapot right now. You technically can’t even address if there ever was a teapot in the past. But regardless, you have not alleviated your own burden of proof.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            correct and probably meant for

            >Pretty sure I asked you to fill your burden and you didn't
            Yeah because the burden is on you.

            I didn't make an observation or a counter. I asked an anon to prove his claim.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I love you anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but the answer to your question is that they serve a greater function that you don't understand.

      >the answer is that I'm stupid and don't know anything, now stop asking questions
      What a fulfilling response.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    An understandable with our logic Material realm will be always inferior to a non understandble with our logic God or "spiritual" realm.
    Material realm is vast but not very hard to understand once you get the elements and patterns that conform it.
    A logical God would mean he is at the level of his Creation and that's against nature.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Christian here
    no you aren't
    >This is troubling my faith
    no it isn't
    epic concern trolling

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >This is troubling my faith, what could be the explanation?
    God can do whatever He wants.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A Christian once thought a little: "what if there's lyfe in other planets?".
    Scared that he might be wrong he stopped thought.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Think about atoms. Why did God create so much empty space between them? It’s a silly question because we’re not supposed to interact with the world in those terms. You look up in the night sky and what do you see? That the appropriate level of concern you should have. You’re trying to account for the entire cosmos? Don’t you see that you are Like king David who counted his men? Or like cain who was envious of his brother because he wanted to account for God’s love? Or like Adam and Eve who wanted to be immortal in their own terms?

    Leviticus 23:22 (NIV): “When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and for the foreigner residing among you. I am the Lord your God.”

    This is what it means. If you try to account for everything in your perception you became a tyrant and your sin is pride. You think you can figure everything in existence. Be humble and follow the Lord.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The claim: against impossible odds, the god of the israelites is the lord of the universe and a guy who failed several messianic prophecies and even some of his own is all the proof we need.

    The rebuttal: No xd

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Christian here struggling with understanding why god would create the endless void of space and billions of barren stars.
    He wouldn't. Heliocentrism, along with big bang, evolution, globe earth, are nothing but anti-biblical secular ideas with no evidence whatsoever.
    I am at awe at people who manage to balance these two polar opposite notions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What do you think all those little lights are in that big black thing in the sky at night?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        stars

        Okay I'll fill my burden. You're a moron. It really is incumbent upon me to call you a moron.

        [...]
        You agree with what I said? Cool if so.

        [...]
        There is a lot of evidence for the Big Bang, for evolution, and for Earth being roughly spherical.

        [...]
        He probably thinks they're Christmas lights put there by God, because he's an idiot.

        There is a lot of evidence for the Big Bang, for evolution, and for Earth being roughly spherical.
        there are none

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine this
    God doesn't exist, and this stuff just happens, it's a natural phenomenon like fire burning, the wind blowing etc.

    Now imagine God does exist, spirits exists, has created the laws of physics and lets the world run itself. It's identical as if he didn't exist but the issue of the second death, theoretical injustice and holiness now have solution.

    As a christian you must follow the teachings of Christ. Believe in resurrection and the final judgement. Everything about genesis, exodus, the rest of stories of kings solomon, david etc, they're all the mythology of the israelites, don't take them to heart, they were used to explain the world they knew and an attempt to collect history that was palatable to them.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >CTRL+F
    >no mention of "flat"
    This board isn't what it used to be.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Size is relative so I don't understand what you're getting at.
    Same with the talking snake talking point, it's just so trivial it just seems petty.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God created a universe that follows rules. He could have created a universe that was random but He didn't.

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