Christo-Paganism

Can you be a Christian but also embrace 'pagan aesthetics' and have a strong reverence for nature?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Everything material is profane.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gnosticism is a heresy.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    "That's good. That's mine."
    "Thats mine too... I like that."
    "All good things...yeah they're mine. Me. I did this."

    I don't know, man.
    What do you think?
    If you think good things are Satanic, you need to go hang.

    People buy into appearances, because they believe in nothing.
    What good was produced by this?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What good was produced by this?
      People like things which are aesthetically pleasing. Considering the explosion of pagan-esque new age spirituality among young people, maybe a subculture could emerge of young Christians who adopt a pagan aesthetic and the stuff that comes with it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, given that the New Age is just a Christian co-opting and diffusing of Dangerous Ideas, what's you're suggesting already exists. You can't fuse Asatru and Christianity or Hellenism and Christianity or whatever, but you can take elements from Pagan religions and try to create an alternative Christianity that is not hostile to them. The result is Wicca, Theosophy, Eastern Orthodoxy, and so on.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm just speaking in terms of aesthetics, not in terms of theology. I'll give you an example: in Japan the vast majority of churches are traditional western brick and stone buildings. This gives Christianity a veneer of 'foreign-ness'. It's an intrusion upon Japanese culture. If churches were built in a Japanese style, maybe had shrine maidens or something like Shinto temples had, Christianity could be seen by the Japanese as part and parcel of their culture and gain more followers. Apply that same principle to young people in the US who turn to Paganism because of its deep connection with nature and the associated aesthetics.

          Marketing matters, even when it comes to the Church.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            > I'm just speaking in terms of aesthetics

            The temple in Jerusalem is a pretty humble affair for the "Temple of God" .... all things considered.

            Tells you something.

            I don't know what pagan aesthetics are. You may look at something and see pagan symbology, but perhaps you don't know that symbolism features heavily in the bible.
            Symbolism is a living language of life thats based on life and when that life is gone - the meaning dies along with.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I just don't like how uniform Christianity is. There's no cultural diversity to speak of.
            99% of churches look the same.
            99% of crosses look the same.
            99% of religious practices are the same.

            >This gives Christianity a veneer of 'foreign-ness'.
            That's the entire point. The point of Abrahamic religion is to impose a foreign culture upon others. The people in Japan and China who take up Christianity do so as an attack on their culture and the race that it comes from. The only time that this isn't the case is when an imperial power completely cuts Christianity off from outside influence and creates a nondissident neutered form of it (Imperial Japan did this, and the CCP is doing this today).

            For more money, Anglo-Saxon England and Europe from ~800-1050 generally had a pretty lovely aesthetic balance between the old Germanic world and the emerging Catholic-feudal order. That sweet spot where the primal and the transcendent were married. Of course the one aspect of those aesthetics not compatible with Christianity is idolatry, but then it doesn't have much practical use anyway, like all of e-paganism.

            >but then it doesn't have much practical use anyway
            Ignoring the fact that you should follow a religion because it's true and not because it's "practical", the South Africans living in concentration camps that only get food because of the AFA's quarterly donations would disagree heartily.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        > a pagan aesthetic
        It's all man made.
        I'm ignorant...define pagan to me.

        Last I saw - they worshiped at stone circles and druid rings.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The implication being that God doesn't like his own work. He doesn't much care for the world that he created.

        Much prefers concrete, steel, shit-tons of money, warfare, power and sex. (cravenness, essentially)

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          We can take em!
          We can take on God!
          Just like we took on all those continuing spawning zombies in Left4Dead.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    All I see in this picture is the star trek badge.
    Multiple series chronicling the delusional adventures of a collective group of 'intelligent' sounding mad men.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  6. 3 months ago
    ࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇

    1. ONE CANNOT SIMULTANEOUSLY BE CHRISTIAN, AND PAGAN, LIKE ONE CANNOT BE SIMULTANEOUSLY ALIVE, AND DEAD.

    2. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS «PAGAN ÆSTHETICS».

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, one can do both

    • 3 months ago
      TradJW

      Catholicism (Universalism) is founded on the assumption that pagan (all) beliefs can be synchretized into the "One True Faith"

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Can I be a Catholic?
    NO

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fusing asatru and christianity is totally feasible... in a vacuum. Unlike other polytheistic pantheons, the aesir are pretty unambiguously good. There's an epic poem in the codex regius called Havamal, and it's essentially a big long list of teachings from Odin. A lot of the moral teachings are highly compatible with christian dogma. It emphasizes charity, virtue, it affirms the value of all life and cautions against prejudice of others.
    You could easily integrate that stuff into christianity or vice versa. Or you could even go full whacko and make up a schizo theory about how Odin was an angel or a prophet from god or whatever who was misunderstood to be a god himself (many medieval icelandic christian historians walked similar lines to "exonerate" the heathen gods).
    The issue is that christianity and christians are too spiteful and proud to concede that they have much in common with the people that were once their enemies. They would never acknowledge Odin or Thor as anything but nonexistent superstitions at best or vile demons at worst after they spent considerable effort in the middle ages purging Odin and Thor from people's hearts and minds, because to do so would be to admit that they at some point did the wrong thing.
    So now they have to maintain a grudge against paganism in perpetuity, which they must continuously inculcate successive generations into by scaring them with total bullshit fear tactics like the satanic panic.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    European Christianity already is a fusion with Paganism.
    Christ-tard anons here have no understanding of past, present or future.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just don't like how uniform Christianity is. There's no cultural diversity to speak of.
      99% of churches look the same.
      99% of crosses look the same.
      99% of religious practices are the same.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just to clear something up.
      Pagan - Many Gods. Multiple deities. Spirit Worship.
      Christianity - God is one. Lord of hosts.
      Holy, and set apart.
      "Be not conformed to the ways of this world..."
      ....Because Satan hosts this server.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Saints = Heroes
        Holy Patrons = Gods of individual Aspects
        Guardian Angels = Nature Spirits

        Also Pagans (depending on which) had concepts of Height of Heights, King of Kings, God of Gods...
        Allfather, source of all things.

        Christians Brains get mindbroken because they don't understand languages.

        Were there different paths Pagans took, deviating from this?
        Sure.
        But there are so many crazy Christian deviations as well.
        Lumping it all together and endlessly pointing at the weaknesses of those would fairly be judged disingenuous.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          "We are one" trope is purely satanic.

          If you are me, and I am you then it's carte blanche to do whatever the frick I want to you, your wife and your kids. It's all mine. It's a purely demonic train of thought.
          Surely you're not so stupid.

          There is no respect.
          There is no truth in it either.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            > "We are one" trope is purely satanic.
            It's almost comical, in that they are speaking for everyone.
            Do you ever notice how they address "the collective"?

            They say "we" alot. How inclusive.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    For more money, Anglo-Saxon England and Europe from ~800-1050 generally had a pretty lovely aesthetic balance between the old Germanic world and the emerging Catholic-feudal order. That sweet spot where the primal and the transcendent were married. Of course the one aspect of those aesthetics not compatible with Christianity is idolatry, but then it doesn't have much practical use anyway, like all of e-paganism.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's called being Lithuanian

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah, also look into Beowulf OP. Current scholarly consensus is that it's a Norse pagan-style epic poem with Christian themes grafted in place of some of the pagan themes

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I will do so

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is bait. You're a Christian who likes nature. That's it.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is called not being a moron

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the hell does "embracing an aesthetic" mean?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know how I can possibly clarify that.
      It should be obvious.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well clearly it isn't.
        You want to play dress up?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You want to play dress up?
          Eastern Orthodoxy in a nutshell.

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