Criticism of freedom of speech and religion

"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that's according to my principles." I can't believe in freedom of speech and religion for everyone in light of people who would use that belief against me for their own gain. This is less about the ideas themselves and more about how they invite clever opportunists to take advantage of them and get rid of free speech and religious freedom once their usefulness has run out. The best way to protect a society from this kind of problem is never to have such values baked into society's foundation in the first place. If the ideas America followed brought it to this end, maybe those ideas should be discarded.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dostoyevsky

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Which books anon?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The IQfy staples: Notes from the Underground, The Brothers Karamazov, and crime and Punishment.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Freedom of speech is predicated on the expectation of a threat against you from within your own polity.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's almost as if having the right to bear arms for the explicit purpose to wage war against the state itself or against anyone who is an enemy of the people, both foreign and especially domestic and always having the capacity to commit violence are really important concepts that can never be left out of the conversation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >muh guns
      Americans with guns didn't stop Zionists infiltrating their churches or stop doctors from tricking them into accepting generations of genital mutilation under the pretense of hygiene.
      >https://royalendeavour.substack.com/p/gun-ownership-does-not-prevent-tyranny

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It always comes back to dicks with you people doesn't it?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Look man, it was the first sign for me that this country is anything but "free".

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Guns don't solve every problem, but they ensure a polite conversation about the problem.
        Americans with guns stopped the progression of an unknown number of invasions and tyrannical movements and basically ensures that war must be waged against the united states hegemony by other means than outright combat, because it's just a non-starter.
        right tool for the right job. if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
        it's almost like people need to protect themselves both physically and mentally.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Americans with guns stopped the progression of an unknown number of invasions and tyrannical movements
          name two

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm going to assume you disagree not with the fundamental premise "guns ensure civil discourse" but instead something less basic, like that you think an armed population isn't inherently more protected from threats than one that has surrendered its weapons, in which case, allow me to present exhibits A and B, the UK and France and what their populations are going through. The whole of Europe is being invaded by islamics with jihad on the mind, all according to some seeming globalist grand design, and the people can't do a damn thing about it except complain to daddy State to do something about it.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zipperhead cope

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My Spidey senses tell me something is wrong with that framework. That is not something uncle Ben would've said

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bump

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Uncle Ted would though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That is just bad politics

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You are just gay.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you cook some food someone might steal it or poison it so really it's better to just never have food

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you think in a dystopian society there would be machines?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Liberalism in general only works when there is a shared sense of identity, based on history, language, religion, ethics, equitable distribution of resources, etc. It doesn't work when parts of the population want to drink the blood of the other parts in revenge for historical grievances; other parts are secretly loyal to other populations; other parts only want to enrich themselves so they can have pedo orgies on private islands; other parts want to use the government to punish people who won't play along with their weird sex fetishes, and so on. It was fun while it lasted.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Liberalism is just a bastardized form of Christianity in the wake of Christianity in decline as an inevitable outcome of its dogma. The age of enlightenment was not an unfortunate mistake, it was the inevitable end result of Christianity itself.

      I agree liberalism has prerequisites such as a homogenous nation to begin with, but it is through liberalism that said homogenous nation gets fricked up to where we are now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Close. Liberalism is bastardized Protestant Christianity.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you think Protestantism came into existence in the first place though anon?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >If the ideas America followed brought it to this end, maybe those ideas should be discarded.
    At present those ideas have created more than they have destroyed, and it may be effectively argued that these ideas are not responsible for any dilapidation but rather provided a fertile ground that has since attracted bad, awful, no-good kinds of people, all of whom arrived from other trains of thought to reap the stuff they did not help cultivate and do not deserve.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dump lost

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