Crying of lot 49

What went wrong?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like I'm being called out...

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing, it is right in line with his short stories, Pynchon never developed the short form skills.

      I expect a quality analysis of Let it Come Down by next weekend.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Any of his short stories worth reading?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          (nta) The Secret Integration is a legitimately good short story. Entropy is interesting as it's almost a mini-V. The rest are pretty bland at best.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, all of them. Which is not to say they are good but Pynchon does a good jub of summing up their worth in his introduction to Slow Learner but possibly not as good of a job as the tittle does. In context of understanding the development of his style or understanding the development of a style it is amazing and very much worth reading.

          [...]
          >"Pynchon described...I seem to have forgotten most of what I thought I'd learned up until then"
          What went wrong?

          Right, he reverted back to his short story writing from before V. Pynchon's style is dependent upon having the space to develop the idea.

          (nta) The Secret Integration is a legitimately good short story. Entropy is interesting as it's almost a mini-V. The rest are pretty bland at best.

          His unabashed Hemingway larp of The Small Rain is my favorite of them but they all are kind of pointless without the context of his introduction.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was oedipa black?

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you mean by what went wrong? Nothing did.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing, it is right in line with his short stories, Pynchon never developed the short form skills.

      I expect a quality analysis of Let it Come Down by next weekend.

      >"Pynchon described...I seem to have forgotten most of what I thought I'd learned up until then"
      What went wrong?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        - too plot heavy

        - thematically doesn't do much for the reader compared with GR or even V.

        - based on Vineland he might not have been too happy with his previously rosy view of 60s counterculture

        - a story about a person discovering there's some huge conspiracy shaping the world was done much better in GR

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >le 60s Boomer beatnik jive
    I dropped it 30 pages in, there's nothing of value there.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The first 30 are the best tho

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >drops it 20% through
      >nothing of value
      >knows this... how?

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    V. is a mediocre work. It only got traction because it was a book of the time in the early 60s. Comparing it with The Recognitions or Wise Blood as a debut novel is overrating it tremendously.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      V. is structurally amazing and quite strong thematically, its main fault is the lack of a good editor to focus him.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The themes are very reminiscent of a nerdy college student and the structure is a meme. No arranging chapters or characters arcs arbitrarily to math symbols or letters doesn't increase its aesthetic value.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pynchon does not really bring in the nerd content until GR, V. is pretty much straight humanities sort modernist novel and the structure is carried through theme, no arrangement of chapters or character arcs need and all characters have the same arc. Did you even read it? What does aesthetic value have to do with anything?

          You are all over the place here.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >V. is pretty much straight humanities sort modernist novel and the structure is carried through theme, no arrangement of chapters or character arcs need and all characters have the same arc
            You are some fake ass with the same shitty opinions from long ago. Off with this bullshit. The alternating chapters between profane and stencil until the end kind of form a narrative V. except it is profane who chances upon the revelation. All the nosejob shit, the mondaugen shit, the stuff about Malta and those automatons are all the nerdy bs you can expect from some college student of history. Don't pretend as if you are the only one to have read books, moron. Unlike you most people prefer calling water water, instead of holy water like you do in your annoying pretensions.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You are some fake ass with the same shitty opinions from long ago.
            Maybe? Depends on what you consider "long ago." I never had much of an opinion on V. until I reread it back in January or February, probably posted on it a couple times. I personally would not consider that long ago.
            >The alternating chapters between profane and stencil until the end kind of form a narrative V.
            Kind of, sure, but the structure is built on theme and not the literal events.
            >All the nosejob shit, the mondaugen shit, the stuff about Malta and those automatons are all the nerdy bs you can expect from some college student of history.
            The nose job is the only part that is all that nerdy, Mondaugen a little but I never said it was free of it I said "pretty much" as in the bulk of the novel lacks it. Malta is fairly important to the novel it is where we get the context for the characters and learn the source of their aimless existences among other things.
            >Don't pretend as if you are the only one to have read books, moron.
            I didn't, just asked if you had read it since you had not provided anything to suggest you have and still have not offered anything beyond what can be gotten from wikipedia and IQfy.
            >Unlike you most people prefer calling water water, instead of holy water like you do in your annoying pretensions.
            All I did was express an opinion, you are the one sperging out and can not even entertain the idea that your comprehension is anything less than perfection. You could be wrong and so could I but we won't find out since all you can do is attack.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >since you had not provided anything to suggest you have and still have not offered anything beyond what can be gotten from wikipedia and IQfy.
            Find me anything I have quoted from the book anywhere on wiki and IQfy. You are acting too mighty for reading mediocre book by a shitty writer.
            >Malta is fairly important to the novel it is where we get the context for the characters and learn the source of their aimless existences among other things
            The worst chapter by far. Exactly the kind of shit I am talking about. It was written by an undergraduate history nerd posing as a maltese man.
            >"B-b-but it was Stencil projecting"
            no it isn't. She hands him over the drafts, everything else is fantasy just like most of your moronic opinions generally are.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Find me anything I have quoted from the book anywhere on wiki and IQfy.
            You didn't quote anything from the book, you listed a few commonly talked about parts of the novel and said it had kind of a V shaped structure which is also fairly commonly mentioned.
            >The worst chapter by far. Exactly the kind of shit I am talking about. It was written by an undergraduate history nerd posing as a maltese man.
            Ok? You are not really saying anything about the content and just saying that you are right because you are right.
            >She hands him over the drafts
            Where did I say otherwise? I did not even suggest such a thing. Paola gives him the confession at the end of the chapter and the next chapter is the confession, nothing about it is hidden or obscured.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Crying of Lot 49's depth parallels some of the most profound works of literature in the world. I might elaborate.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I might elaborate.
      You won't because you can't in any meaningful way.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've already effortposted before in other CoL49 threads earlier this year, I'm just very busy today with trifling menial work.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          lol.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://warosu.org/lit/thread/22085728#p22088721
            https://warosu.org/lit/thread/22407256#p22409772
            Blow me

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I remember those, Iit's a tradition for readers to make one after completion. It's a dense book for sure to the point of being overwhelming and confusing. It could also be much ado about no-thing. You had some good insight. Threads with the 1st cover yea

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cheers, I've also wanted to effortpost about Vineland before but there's much more ground to cover and nobody really cares about that book compared to CoL49 and GR. CoL49's still brilliant to me, though, no matter what it is.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I find alot of it in Madoka.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pointless

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    LSD

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    whats the op image? ai? of the book

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like a still from that Wes Anderson movie that came out last summer. "Meteortown" or some shit.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >knows wes anderson but tries to look cool on an anymous forum by not saying the correct name
        you're either under 18 or a small fragile little man

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not that guy but I would have made a similar post, I recognised it from the new Wes movie but can't remember the name of it. Take your meds

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            kek imagine trying to appear cool on an anonymous forum. sad

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Some of us are just naturally cool, you wouldn't get it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            not on IQfy we aren't

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I bet you unironically enjoy his films

        >knows wes anderson but tries to look cool on an anymous forum by not saying the correct name
        you're either under 18 or a small fragile little man

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    FRICK YOU MOTHERFRICKERS YOU HAVE MADE SAME THREADS BEFORE WITH SAME REPLIES

    WHAT THE FRICK DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bleeding Edge is the best Pynchon book IMO.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    V. is juvenalia

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