Cyberpunk

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is there any other worthwhile cyberpunk to read?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Snow Crash is garbage. As far as I can tell Neuromancer is the only good novel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. So hard to take it seriously when the main character’s name is ducking Hiro Protagonist.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. So hard to take it seriously when the main character’s name is ducking Hiro Protagonist.

      Your loss, seethers. Snow Crash was awesome, as was The Diamond Age. Neal Stephenson knows his stuff.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He might know computers or whatever but his stories, characters, and dialogue fall flat.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Snow Crash was awesome
        Correct

        >as was The Diamond Age
        Wrong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      neuromancer was poorly written shite and even though snow crash was reddit dad humour, it was more correct about the future than anything libshit gibson came out with kek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Neuromancer is so badly written I don't even know what to compare it to. Literal fricking light novels are better.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Count Zero
    >Mona Lisa Overdrive
    Those two books are parts 2 and 3 of the Sprawl Trilogy, of which Neuromancer is Part 1, btw
    >Ubik
    >Electric Sheep
    >Virtual Light
    >Mirrorshades
    and as it turns out I don't actually know too many cyberpunk IQfy books, so I'm also interested in more recommendations.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/f7E65rc.jpeg

      read the pic rel and liked it
      is there any other worthwhile cyberpunk to read?

      For literature, the cyberpunk genre begins and ends with the Sprawl Trilogy (Neuromancer, Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive).
      I loved these books and I love the genre but 90% if it is just cheap aesthetic shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i got you bros i love cyberpunk and hate redditBlack folk who think it's just about le cool future aesthetic
      Bruce Sterling
      The Artificial Kid
      Schismatrix
      Islands in the Net
      Heavy Weather
      Holy Fire
      Distraction
      Zeitgeist
      The Zenith Angle
      The Caryatids
      Crystal Express (Short Stories)
      Globalhead (Short Stories)
      A Good Old Fashioned Future (Short Stories)
      Visionary in Residence (Short Stories)
      Gothic High Tech (Short Stories)
      Transreal Cyberpunk (Short Stories, written with Rudy Rucker)
      Rudy Rucker
      Software
      Wetware
      Freeware
      Realware
      The Hacker and the Ants
      Complete Short Stories
      Transreal Cyberpunk (Short Stories, written with Bruce Sterling)
      John Shirley
      The only really actual "punk" guy of the original group.

      City Come A' Walkin' (Kino)
      Black Glass
      Eclipse (kino)
      Eclipse Penumbra (kino)
      Eclipse Corona (kino)
      Heatseeker (short stories)
      Lewis Shiner
      Frontera
      Deserted Cities of the Heart
      Slam
      Walter Jon Williams
      Hardwired (kino)
      Solip:System
      The Voice of the Whirlwind
      Angel Station
      Metropolitan
      City on Fire
      This is Not a Game
      Deep State
      George Alec Effinger
      When Gravity Fails (pajeet kino)
      A Fire in the Sun
      The Exile Kiss
      Budayeen Nights (Short stories)
      Richard Kadrey
      Metrophage
      Kamikaze L'Amour
      Angel Scene
      Pat Cadigan
      Dervish is Digital
      Fools
      Mindplayers (kino)
      Synners (kino)
      Tea from an Empty Cup (kino)
      Patterns (short stories)
      Jack Womack
      Ambient (kino)
      Elvissey (kino satire)
      Going, Going, Gone
      Heathern
      Let's Put the Future Behind Us
      Random Acts of Senseless Violence (kino)
      Terraplane
      Steven Barnes
      Street Lethal (blaxploitation kino)
      Gorgon Child
      Firedance
      Richard Paul Russo
      Destroying Angel
      Carlucci's Edge
      Carlucci's Heart
      Subterranean Gallery
      Melissa Scott
      Trouble & Her Friends
      Night Sky Mine
      Dreaming Metal
      The Jazz
      Wilhelmina Baird
      Crash Course
      Clip Joint
      Psykosis by Wilhelmina Baird
      Shariann Lewitt
      Memento Mori
      Interface Mask

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Excellent selection, anon. What about a few of Mick Farren's novels?
        Phaid the Gambler
        Citizen Phaid
        Armageddon Crazy
        Vickers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This Black person gets it, someone should make a cyberpunk reading chart out of this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        good list, thanks a lot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit, have you actually read all these? Which are your favorites?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm thinking about Altered carbon but did not read it yet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it has some cool elements but it's self insert main character and total junk food reading. the first book is the best of the 3.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's exactly what I was afraid of

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          don't get me wrong, you will probably enjoy it. i did; but it's one of those guilty pleasure reads. it's akin to women reading colleen hoover or something but for sci fi lovers. the second book ventures out from main character being a violent columbo and is now a mercenary on an alien planet so there are interesting things there. third book is more similar to the third but just not as fun, in my opinion. read it for what it is. junk food is okay as a palate cleanser.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            third book is more similar to the first*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just watch the first season of the tv adaptation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The book is better for the first 2/3rds, the TV the best for the rest. I don't think you'd be disappointed with it. It is a good book, enjoyed it more than Neuromancer.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Fortunate Fall by Raphael Carter

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read his other novels. I didn't like Neuromancer, though I recognize it as a important book, but his other books in the series are much better.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A Song Called Youth by John Shirley. It's a trilogy: Eclipse (1985), Eclipse Penumbra (1988), and Eclipse Corona (1990).

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cyberpunk is all shit except blade runner

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Delillo Zero K
    Burroughs Naked Lunch

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Late Burroughs in general.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pynchon

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cyberpunk is a "genre" in the anime sense, where they autistically file and classify every trope that worked even once, then copy it into the ground. That to say, it's not a genre or even a subgenre. It's a world that worked a couple times. Cyberpunk novels fail because they are derivative at their core.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what does cyperpunk even mean?
    cybergay? Punk is a word people call gay people

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actual, non-shitposty response: It's a subgenre of sci-fi with an emphasis on grittyness, and leaning more towards dystopianism. In particular, there's a heavy focus on the social consequences of advanced technology, especially the internet (the "cyber" part), and how it's changed the world, and how if affects people, especially in the ways technology enhances the power of the system and degrades the power of the individual. The "Punk" part comes from that last part especially, as a big part of cyberpunk literature is that struggle of individualism vs. authority. The stars of cyberpunk literature are often struggling against authority, common to more "anarchistic" cyberpunk works such as the Cyberpunk 2020 role playing game, or, more commonly, struggling as *part of* the authority, being used as deniable assets or cats-paws by the powers that be, a la Neuromancer or Deus Ex.

      Some themes common to the cyberpunk genre are, beyond the aforementioned individualism and the struggle to be an individual, are corporatism, consumerism, authoritarianism, the declining power of (elected) government, and more esoteric, humanistic topics, such as how advanced technology, especially the internet affects the human psyche, and digital consciousness and the question of what it means to be human - going both ways, machines becoming more human, and people becoming less human. All in all, not an easy genre to pin down, which is why Bruce Sterling helpfully summed it up as "High Tech, Low Life." It's more than just neon signs in the rain.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Genre fiction retelling of the 80s action movie where the techbro programmer nerd is the hero rather than the brawny thug.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read Dopamine recently. It was enjoyable, but the last couple chapters were quite a bit too heroic-action-movie for my taste.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Dead Girls, once I got into it. I also recommend reading noir (Hammett, Chandler) for a similar feel to Gibson if you don't mind the change in genre. "Cyberpunk" got sterilized so quickly it's more rewarding to look at where it came from than where it went.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Dead Girls, Boys and Things trilogy is severely underrated.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In that case I'll definitely pick up the sequels on the extremely off chance I ever see them.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What cyberpunk work feels the most like an 80s/90s OVA?, bonus points if it was made around that time period.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mona Lisa Overdrive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neuromancer is Gibson at his peak and it's a very average heist novel. It's all downhill from there and you're not starting at a great height. It's all genre fiction, at best it rises to TV episode light entertainment like Neuromancer achieves, but even that proves too great a challenge for Gibson.

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