Did Meursault deserve to be executed instead of imprisonment, even if it was a life sentence?

Did Meursault deserve to be executed instead of imprisonment, even if it was a life sentence? Is there any real life examples similar in nature?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    From the standpoint of Meursault it would not have made a difference, which is all that matters.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn't care about it in the end, yes, but he didn't feel that way immidietly after the trial. Yet I think he would like to have a chance to swim in the cool sea, with it being one of his favourite past-times, if he didn't get executed or life sentenced. All his indiference feels like reached conclusion after "5 stages of grief", if you can call it that with Meursault.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Yet I think he would like to have a chance to swim in the cool sea, with it being one of his favourite past-times, if he didn't get executed or life sentenced.
        And? All that would serve to do is undermine the whole point.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The whole point of what? Him being ok with death? Yeah it probably would since he would die, however it wouldn't ruin his character. Nothing implies he actively wants to die.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The whole point of what?
            Theme. The reason Camus wrote it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ok... Than all hypothetical situations would undermine the whole points of any work ever created. And I was speaking hypothetically if he wasn't sentenced to be executed he wouldn't come to a conclusion that he is ok with dying in front of a crowd. And, hypothetically speaking, he could also come to a concluses he is ok dying by accepting to go in a sure death brawl with Arabs, if Camus wrote it that way. The fact that "something would ruin the reason author wrote it" isn't enough of a point to not discuss the hypothetical situations.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, it would just kill the finality of the ending which highlights theme in trade for a weak what if.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I reject your notion, as I will discuss anything and everything I fancy in order to see others view on a subject.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If that were true you would be asking questions instead of playing games.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >you would be asking questions
            And what I'm doing in your opinion?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Only questions you asked were rhetorical.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Only some of them were rhetorical. Yet you also made a rhetorical remark. In fact most of your posts are deflection in order to not give any of your opinions on the subjects of the book except "writer wrote it that way so stop trying to dissect it".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You are not dissecting The Stranger, you are dissecting what ifs. Might as well ask what if he got a hamburger instead of bullets, what he really wanted that day was a hamburger. Your questions where all rhetorical unless I was supposed to ignore what followed them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My hypothetical what ifs are in order to establish what sort of character Meursault is in my eyes. And I fail to see questions in OP as rhetorical, nor was I rhetorically asking you about about what point hypothetical what ifs undermine. Also
            >food analogy
            Really now?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It wasn't a food analogy, wasn't even an anology, it was a literary reference (picrel). You are just playing games and trying to be right.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well sorry, it's nice of you to use a reference to own me. Still, you refuse to see my point of using what ifs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It wasn't to own you, that was just a side effect of your not knowing what an analogy is which was completely unexpected on my part. Give it a read, it is an interesting take on The Stranger, more about the personal than the societal/philosophical.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is it a good read if considering it in a vacuum from The Stranger? I will note it and read if I feel like it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Probably one of my favorite titles but I don’t think I’ll ever read the book. The Brautigan I’ve read really depressed me for some reason

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the brautigan gay is a pseudo-intellectual loser trying to “own” people by referencing a forgotten middlebrow writer
            KWAB

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He should get shipped off to a penal colony

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guillotine > life sentence

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, it was self defense.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because he was a The Stranger

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This thread really reminds me: I'm reading "The Recognitions" now and a few days ago there was a thread about it; I tried to ask a question in that thread about some passage I didn't understand instead of starting my own, but it got completely ignored because OP was chimping out because some troll told him his question was too vague and then they kept going back and forth like two absolute idiots talking about "who's crying" and "whose feelings got hurt" and it was all so tedious.

    Not perfectly analogous here--I don't think the person you're talking to is trolling and in fact is actually trying to discuss themes and such which is great, so this comment is more directed at you--but at some point you have to learn people will say stuff on /lit you disagree with and if you want to have a discussion it's better to just say your point and move on before the thread gets so derailed it's worthless trying to have one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >and it was all so tedious
      that should be the subheading for /lit..perfectly describes my continuous daily return here..

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I gave up on that thread before you asked your question, what was it?

      Is it a good read if considering it in a vacuum from The Stranger? I will note it and read if I feel like it.

      It is not even remotely dependent on having read The Stranger, just interesting in context of The Stranger and clearly informed by The Stranger.

      Probably one of my favorite titles but I don’t think I’ll ever read the book. The Brautigan I’ve read really depressed me for some reason

      Brautigan is depressing unless you are the sort who reduces him to "weird." So The Wind Won't Blow it All Away is more grounded in reality than most of his work, it is still depressing but it speaks so directly too who we are that it lacks the general depressed overtone that much of his work has. What did you read by him?

      >the brautigan gay is a pseudo-intellectual loser trying to “own” people by referencing a forgotten middlebrow writer
      KWAB

      I never tried to own anyone. If I had known that you did not know what an analogy is I would have responded differently.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How is trying to show the “absurdity” of OP’s thread by referencing Brautigan without quotations not an own? Unless someone knew (1) it was a quote lacking quotation marks and (2) knew of Brautigan and his writing, of course someone would react that way. What if you decided not to be a homosexual, Dad would still be in your life.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The reference had no bearing on what I said, it can be taken at face value without affecting my point. A reference is not a quote and should not be quoted.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Your “reference,” you sniveling little disingenuous homosexual was practically the full fricking quote. That’s not how references work. You’re thinking of an allusion, you utter moron.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ref·er·ence
            /ˈref(ə)rəns/
            noun
            1. the action of mentioning or alluding to something.

            I am guessing you are thinking of citation? I am nowhere near autistic enough to get away with citations in casual usage outside of a DFW pastiche.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He deserves it just for being such a moronic pussy. The priest at the end completely destroyed his worldview.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever makes you sleep better, priest. Probably shouldn't have angered him by barraging him with stupid questions he refuses to answer and than running away after getting an answer.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Refuses to answers because he's a moron without an answer. It's pretty objective that you have lost the discussion when you start hitting your head against the wall in rage.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i'd say most people deserve execution over imprisonment ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lucky for you, life itself is a death sentence.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1. Caught
    2. France wasn't willing to do the Colonel Kurtz needful to retain Algeria in the first or last instance.

    The absurdity is in the abstract observance and application of the law. French Algerians were hung out to dry by pearl clutching Stalin & Mao apologists standing on ceremony back in the mother country.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they weren't punishing merseault for the arab, they were punishing him for not acting out the correct emotions in public

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is it allowed, realistically? The only reason I can see them justifying it if prosecutor convinced everyone he is antichrist and judgement is passed from religious standpoint, but from professional view this trial was a travesty.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he literally just sat there and was like whatever I don't care, yeah I killed him, dunno why, would do that again tbh
        his attorney would save him if he at least tried to be saved

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cmon, he killed him because of a heatstroke and all of you are acting like he is the worst man alive.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >heatstroke

            nah he was stung by a bee and pulled the trigger by mistake but upon realising what he had done he fired 4 more shots because he thought why the frick not

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