Do any coffee experts here have any recommendations for machines under 500/700$?

Do any coffee experts here have any recommendations for machines under £500/700$?

I know literally nothing and I've been using a standard Nespresso coffee pod machine that's recently broke. I want to finally start drinking "proper" coffee

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing really available for people that poor, sorry.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    invest in a girlfriend
    men shouldn't be anywhere near a kitchen let alone a coffee maker

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A Gaggia espresso machine.

    Can be improved with an Arduino/STM32 controller:
    https://gaggiuino.github.io

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've been using a Gaggia classic for about 2 years now and honestly it's nothing special. The novelty of having a manual espresso machine at home wore off pretty quickly. Nowadays I use it mostly to impress my friends or my parents when they come over but I am way too lazy to go through the whole process myself.
      OP, save your money, buy an Aeropress and a good grinder.
      Or if you want something a little more automatic, just get a new Nespresso coffee pod machine. You'll thank me later

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >through the whole process myself.
        I mean, *when I am by myself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I had a Gaggia Classic years ago. It was a very good machine and lasted a long time before finally breaking.
      The old one I had was made in Italy. Pretty sure they switched to manufacturing in China.
      Chinese are incapable of producing high quality items. I wouldn't pay £££ for anything out of China.

      I think they can be modded as mentioned by

      I have no interest in such levels of audiophile like autism.

      Remember that grinder is very important. Have to factor that in.
      If you have a look at this seller they have machine + grinder deals
      https://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/set/

      I'm trying to reduce my caffeine intake these days so I don't want to invest in an expensive set up
      If I did, I'd like to have a europiccola for looks alone.
      Personally, I'm happy with using a moka pot (properly, most people use them wrong and think they're shit).
      2 cup Moka pot + manual grinder = £60
      I also have an aeropress in the cupboard and they're pretty good especially if you like a longer filter coffee type drink

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    steel burr handgrinder + hario v60 and the freshest beans you can get

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Coffee machines are a meme bro. You're just looking to consoom. Not actually consume coffee

    Just get an aeropress and YouTube the upside down method. Perfect single serve and easy to clean and use. Also no BS bulkiness

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. I was about to get a Flair 58 plus but decided that my aeropress is perfect for my usual use case: single serving and the ability to change up the brewing method.

      The Aeropress is such a perfect device when you consider the price, ease of use, low price of filters and the quality of the brews that are possible in conjunction with a scale and a temperature controlled kettle while being small enough to use it on travels.
      It obviously can't make espresso but it still makes tasty concentrates. I love that the cleaning process is mainly rinsing the parts with water.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    $1

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Decent Espresso.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just get an Italian moka.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i have a lelit anita, and i am happy with it

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i have this
    its nice but it broke once already

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >smeg

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aeropress is $40

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's also shit memed by redditors and not automatic.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you want espresso or filter coffee? $700 is barely enough for grinder + machine

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming you know literally nothing, there are a few basics you should know about coffee before spending any money:

    1) Fresh coffee is much better than pre-ground coffee. Coffee starts to stale as soon as it's roasted, it's not really supposed to be a product that gets stored in your cupboard for several months. If you buy whole bean coffee, you can usually drink it for a month or so before it starts tasting noticably worse. As soon as it's ground, the staling process accelerates and it tastes worse after about an hour. So you should avoid pre-ground coffee and grind your coffee beans just before you brew. This will involve purchasing a coffee grinder, so you'll need to factor this into your budget. You can buy whole beans from the supermarket or amazon, but generally these will have been sitting in a warehouse for an indeterminate amount of time so they'll probably be stale by the time you pick them up. The best way to get fresh coffee would be to order online from a roaster or purchasing them from a local roaster in-person if you have one nearby.

    2) The consistency of the grind is also important. With cheap grinders (or blade grinders/blenders), the consistency will be all over the place, so the large particles will under-extract (taste too sour) while the smaller ones will over-extract (taste too bitter), which ends up producing an unpleasant cup. If you're willing to grind the coffee by hand, you can get solid hand grinders for relatively little money, whereas electric grinders will be more expensive. If you're planning to grind for espresso then your grinder also needs to have very small adjustments between grind sizes so that you can dial it in and get the perfect cup.

    3) Buying a cheap set of scales with a resolution of 0.1g will allow you to brew with the same amount of coffee/water, timing the extraction is also important. It might seem autistic, but it will greatly improve the consistency of your brewing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      4) Espresso is very awkward and can be pretty expensive, so unless you're willing to turn it into a hobby I honestly wouldn't bother with it and I'd just stick to regular black coffee. Using freshly ground coffee beans with a brewer like an Aeropress, Moka Pot, V60 or French press will produce great results without needing to spend money on expensive machines. Manual lever machines (e.g. a Flair) can be much cheaper and produce great results, but they require more effort to learn (and they usually don't come with a milk steamer, so you'll need to find another way to steam milk if you want to make cappucinos/lattes).

      TL;DR: Buy a good burr grinder and nice, fresh coffee beans, that alone will probably elevate your cups beyond most capsule or chain coffee. Stick to regular black coffee rather than espresso, unless you want to go down a rabbit hole.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When people don't pronounce is properly; it's ex presso

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's all about good beans

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a cone for like $5 anon. Black filter coffee is superior to italian cope $3000 espresso coffee smouthered by milk to the point you can't taste it

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