Do "born again" people stop sinning entirely, do they sin less (if so, how much less?), or does being born again have no effect on your beha...

Do "born again" people stop sinning entirely, do they sin less (if so, how much less?), or does being born again have no effect on your behavior?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They give 10% of their money to a mega church so that when they die they won't go to the bad place. That's literally all it is now.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is no bad place at Lakewood.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They sin even more and feel better about raping their daughter since Jesus forgives them

  3. 5 months ago
    Worker

    When a person is born again of the Spirit, the sin that they once loved, they will now hate.

    >We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.
    Roman 6:6

    Just like God freed the Israelites fro slavery in Egypt, God will free the Christian from their bondage to sin. And just like the Israelites fought battles against the pagans and were given victory by God, Christians will fight battles against sin and will be given victory by God.

    Christians won't become morally perfect in this life, but they will become holier and holier as they gain victory over their sins. This is called sanctification.

    If a self-proclaimed Christian continues to make a practice of sinning (continues getting drunk, continues watching porn, continues to be hateful etc.) then they have not been born again, because they bear witness that the Holy Spirit doesn't dwell within the, and they bear witness that they haven't been freed from sin.

    >4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's[a] seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
    1 John 3:4-10

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      So a born again person never ever commits a single sin?

      • 5 months ago
        Worker

        There's a difference between a practice of sin and falling into sin. If you're honest with yourself, then you should be able to understand the difference.

        Did David fall into sin, or was he in bondage to sin?

        Likewise, is someone who watches porn every week falling into sin, or are they practicing sin?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          David was not a Christian and he would have hated your religion for insulting his

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            Like all Old Testament saints, David put his faith in the promised Messiah, who they knew would take away their sins.

            The believers of the Old Testament looked forward to Jesus, while the believers now look back to Jesus.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shhhhhh. Don’t tell them that their own belief is double think. They don’t realize they incorporate “works” but still deny “works” as a thing.

  4. 5 months ago
    Worker

    You might ask, "Ah, so a Christian might still sin? So how much sin can I get away with and still be a Christian?"

    This isn't how a Christian thinks. A Christian has been totally transformed by God, and born again. The Christian has the Holy Spirit dwelling within them. The Christian will strive to be holy in their lives.

    Yes, like David, the Christian may fall into sin, even serious sin. But they will not be conquered by their sin, and they will be given the power by God to overcome it. If someone finds that they are consistently been beaten by their sin, and that they are not gaining victory over their sin, then they have shown that they have not been born again and freed from their bondage to sin.

    >What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.
    Romans 6:1-4

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      When a person is born again of the Spirit, the sin that they once loved, they will now hate.

      >We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.
      Roman 6:6

      Just like God freed the Israelites fro slavery in Egypt, God will free the Christian from their bondage to sin. And just like the Israelites fought battles against the pagans and were given victory by God, Christians will fight battles against sin and will be given victory by God.

      Christians won't become morally perfect in this life, but they will become holier and holier as they gain victory over their sins. This is called sanctification.

      If a self-proclaimed Christian continues to make a practice of sinning (continues getting drunk, continues watching porn, continues to be hateful etc.) then they have not been born again, because they bear witness that the Holy Spirit doesn't dwell within the, and they bear witness that they haven't been freed from sin.

      >4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's[a] seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
      1 John 3:4-10

      You still have yet to answer a single one of OP's questions you lazy subhuman protcuck. When's the last time you begged Jesus for forgiveness? Oh wait you don't do that. You just assume you have it.

      • 5 months ago
        Worker

        ?
        I always ask God for forgiveness. Do you think Christians don't do that?
        You shouldn't use such rude language if you want to have a civil conversation.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Meds

  5. 5 months ago
    Worker

    Christians battle against sin. They may fall, but their lives will show a trend of victory over unrighteousness. And this victory will be given to us by God, not of our own power, although we still will use our own power to fight (just as the Israelites fought with their own strength, but were given the victory by God).

  6. 5 months ago
    Worker

    >Do "born again" people stop sinning entirely,
    No.

    >do they sin less (if so, how much less?)
    It's not a question of "how much", it's a question of if you now have the ability to conquer your sin. Does your life show a trend of victory over sin?

    >or does being born again have no effect on your behavior?
    It absolutely has a massive effect on your behaviour. It would change your life entirely. You will be given a new heart to strive after righteousness and will no longer be enslaved to sin.

    19 And I will give them one heart, and a new spirit I will put within them. I will remove the heart of stone from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in my statutes and keep my rules and obey them. And they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
    Ezekiel 11:19-20

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some stop sinning entirely, some sin less, and some continue in their sinning with not effect, and some, undoubtedly, sin more.

  8. 5 months ago
    Worker

    And just so you know, the 'church' in the OP picture is not a Christian church. It does not teach the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is a temple of greed run by false teachers. Not something that should be associated with being born again.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Born again" is not a one time event. Born again is whenever you go to confession. When you commit a mortal sin you're no longer born again.

    • 5 months ago
      Worker

      You've been deceived, friend.

      Have you not read Romans 4? By faith we are born again, and our sins are no longer held against us.

      >6 just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: 7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; 8 blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.”
      Romans 4:6-8

      But if you deny this saving faith, then you've denied the sufficiency of Christ. You are placing your faith in confession, rather than the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. This prevents you from having peace with God and prevents you from being truly born again.

      Catholics don’t know that only the blood of Jesus can purify sin. They offer alternatives, like:
      • Water baptism (405) – “erases original sin”
      • Purgatory (1030) – “a cleansing fire that purifies sin”
      • Sacrifice of the Mass (1414) – “reparation for the sins of the living and the dead”
      • Indulgences e.g., penance, rosary, doing good works (1471) – “remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven”
      • Eucharist (1393) – “cleansing us from past sins and preserving us from future sins”
      • Catholic priests (1461) – “Indeed bishops and priests, by virtue of the sacrament of Holy Orders, have the power to forgive all sins”

      Catholicism provides many alternatives to the blood of Christ, which are all false hopes that their sins have been forgiven.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're a Satanist who's scared of the emotion of guilt, has zero fear of God, and has presumption on God's mercy. We get it. Your God almost sounds like...Lucifer.

        • 5 months ago
          Worker

          You're replying to a verse of the Bible by saying that it sounds like Lucifer.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >original sin

        Nowhere in the Bible. Augustine and tradition came up with that.

        • 5 months ago
          Worker

          Right... I'm not here to debate that topic, I'm simply quoting the Catholic Catechism which uses the term "original sin".

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you using a Bible written by Catholic and Orthodox hands though? Not a single manuscript anywhere was written by Protestant, Baptist, or Jehovah's Witness hands. Period.

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
            2 Peter 1:21

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            If the Catholic Church is unnecessary and the Bible interprets itself and what it says is soooooo self-evident. Why are there 33,000 denominations and sects of Protestantism? (You are a Protestant btw).

          • 5 months ago
            Worker

            The denominations that believe that God's Word is the ultimate authority (Sola Scriptura) have very little difference between them. I can walk into pretty much any church that believes in the Bible as their ultimate authority and agree with pretty much everything that is said there. That is because the Bible is clear on foundational issues regarding salvation.

            The same cannot be said for sects that reject Sola Scriptura - there is much more difference between these groups than there is between groups that believe in Sola Scriptura. Groups that reject Sola Scriptura include liberal churches that reject the fact that all of Scripture is God-breathed, and groups like Catholics that deny that Scripture is our ultimate authority, and groups like Mormons who believe that Scripture is in error.

            The Catholic church itself isn't united. There are many different forms of Catholicism throughout the world. There are Catholic churches in Germany, for example, which are incredibly liberal. There are others that are incredibly conservative. They are all under Rome, and yet not united in doctrine. Interesting, isn't it?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            And why is all prophecy relegated to the Bible?
            >inb4 knowledge will pass away

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            All the Christianity prior to 1517 had bishops (who were ordained as bishops by a previous generation of bishops who were made bishops by the original 12 apostles). Whether it was in Europe, Africa, or Asia. Any form of "Christianity" without bishops is modern, unhistorical, and unbiblical.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Protestants used a Catholic Bible to translate theirs.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    No they can do whatever the frick they want as long as they “believe” and believe in the one true god Israel. American Evangelists treat their Bible like a fortune cookie.

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