Do Christians really not masturbate and/or confess to a priest every time they do?

Do Christian’s really not jerk off and/or confess to a priest every time they do? And believe they might be sent to hell if they die before being forgiven? Ridiculous.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was born into a non-Christian family and when I was 13 I was introduced to the idea of Hell and it caused me to develop OCD which manifested itself in me being unable to jerk off at night for fear I'd die in my sleep and go to Hell
    Sometimes I'd be very horny and so I'd start jerking off but I'd get constant intrusive thoughts and then eventually feel disgusted and spend an hour awake at night panicking about Hell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Working as intended

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People will mock the idea of religious trauma but here’s a good example of a guy who developed an anxiety disorder as a kid because adults lied to him about being tortured forever in fire

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        told him the truth*

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd wonder if kids could pick up on being sat down and talked to sincerely about the dangers of unchecked masturbation. Whether that'd work or if you have to go with ooga booga burn in hellfire forever because you jacked off to a supermodel.

        Is this different from traditional Catholicism?

        I was with some Catholics yesterday and when our friends went missing in the canoe and we were speculating as to their fate, the Catholics agreed that they hoped these friends were “fully confessed” and “in good standing” in the Church, lest they go to hell.

        You're either a fricking autist or that's some real fricked up friends.

        >"Shit our friend is missing, let's stop and try and find him"
        >"oh god I hope he's okay"
        >"Oh god please let's find him"

        versus

        >"Hm, reginald, I do hope that jeffrey has indeed confessed else he will burn in hell forever"
        >"Shall we go searching for him, Jacob?"
        >"No, I think not, it's in god's hands."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The sole reason I haven't roped is the primal fear of fire and brimestone hell that my boomer fundie parents hammered into my head throughout my entire childhood. Yet funnily enough they taught me masturbation wasn't a sin as long as you weren't watching porn. Non denominational "just me and muh bible" shit is such a fricking joke.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yea it is that absolute. If you’re dying and can’t confess to a priest, you must do an act of contrition, which is to feel sincere remorse and repentence.
    Otherwise you will go to hell.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Hell" is just absence of God. The idea of it being a realm where you get tortured for eternity is a Catholic church forced meme.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The harsh hell imagery comes from Jesus in the NT(gehena where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth, worm that never dies), and the book of revelation(everlasting lake of fire)..

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"Hell" is just absence of God. The idea of it being a realm where you get tortured for eternity is a Catholic church forced meme.
      TIL the orthodox don't believe in a fiery hell.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They actually do, of course, but internet Ortholarpers just read esoteric theologies.

        Here's "based John Chrysostom the israelite-hater", one of their favorite Church fathers, whom they haven't actually read:

        >For He created us and brought us into being, that He might make us partakers of eternal blessings, that He might offer us the kingdom of Heaven, not that He might cast us into Hell and deliver us to the fire [...]
        >And it will be no small affliction to the souls of those who are being punished at that time, to reflect, that when they had it in their power in the few days of this life to make all good, they neglected their opportunity and surrendered themselves to everlasting evil. And lest we should suffer this let us rouse ourselves while it is the accepted time, while it is the day of salvation, while the power of repentance is great. For not only the evils already mentioned, but others also far worse than these await us if we are indolent. These indeed, and some bitterer than these have their place in hell: but the loss of the good things involves so much pain, so much affliction and straitness, that even if not other kind of punishment were appointed for those who sin here, it would of itself be sufficient to vex us more bitterly than the torments in hell, and to confound our souls.
        That passage above is what idiots misread as "Hell is the absence of God." No, Hell is a lake of fire and a place of torment where punishments are inflicted on immortal sinners, but he's saying that the worst suffering they will experience is the knowledge that they forever missed their chance to be in Heaven with God. He affirms as much verbatim later:
        >I say that a far more severe punishment than hell is exclusion from the glory of the other world, and I think that one who has failed to reach it ought not to sorrow so much over the miseries of hell, as over his rejection from heaven, for this alone is more dreadful than all other things in respect of punishment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not seeing any god around here...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        God is everywhere you are, you just need to open your heart to Him.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah but not that social engineering, tool of statecraft and dominion type of god

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christians don't believe they need to "confess to a priest" because we were forgiven of all our sins by our faith in the sacrifice of Christ, and we do not approach God through an intermediary because we are all priests communing with Him directly through our High Priest, Jesus Christ.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Christians don't believe they need to "confess to a priest" because we were forgiven of all our sins by our faith in the sacrifice of Christ, and we do not approach God through an intermediary because we are all priests communing with Him directly through our High Priest, Jesus Christ.
      what sect is this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Biblical Christianity.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, no. what sect. jehovists?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is no sect and I don't know what a "jehovist" is. If you mean the heretical cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses, then no. It would be inappropriate to give you a name like "Presbyterian" or "Baptist" or "Lutheran" because this fundamental Christian truth is not attached to any label, but spread throughout those churches which are founded on the word of God.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't care about the details of your issues with other christians. are you ashamed of your sect that you would not give a name?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Asked and answered.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you did not give a name.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ah so you're a "Non-denominationalist" queer. Why are you so afraid to just say that?

            I'm a non-denominationalist chad btw.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you a female? You type like one. Roastie religion lmao. You Will Never Not Be A prostitute

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you a seething moron? You type like one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Biblical Christianity.

      There is no sect and I don't know what a "jehovist" is. If you mean the heretical cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses, then no. It would be inappropriate to give you a name like "Presbyterian" or "Baptist" or "Lutheran" because this fundamental Christian truth is not attached to any label, but spread throughout those churches which are founded on the word of God.

      James 5:16 RV1895
      [16] Confess therefore your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The supplication of a righteous man availeth much in its working.

      https://bible.com/bible/1922/jas.5.16.RV1895

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is not relevant to the posts you replied to.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Protestant detected
          Just take it out of the Bible then if you don't like it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cope?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > we do not approach God through an intermediary because we are all priests communing with Him directly through our High Priest, Jesus Christ
      Goes against the book of acts

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No it doesn't

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Nuh-uh!
          Compelling

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yuh-huh!
            Compelling

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      John 20:23 - If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

      How are the apostles supposed to forgive sins unless they are confessed to them?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is about evangelism. When the listener repents, we pronounce forgiveness. When they reject the message, we warn them they are still in their sins.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice adding to scripture. It's about the forgiveness of sins, not about someone's reception to the Gospel. Nothing more serpentine than a Protestant's handling of scripture.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you ever read the Gospel of John, friend? Like, actually read it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Take off your tap-dance shoes and address the verse. I've read it far more often than you, and in more depth than your shallow and juvenile low-church bible study seminars at pastor Jim Bob's church could ever afford you.

            It's not about a person's reception to the gospel. Whether a person is forgiven of their sins relies on the apostles' discretion, which is why they were given the power to WITHOLD forgiveness as well.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Take off your tap-dance shoes and address the verse. I've read it far more often than you, and in more depth than your shallow and juvenile low-church bible study seminars at pastor Jim Bob's church could ever afford you.
            Wow, you must be really familiar with the text to speak so boldly. If only I could attain your learning. So it would be really embarrassing if you somehow didn't know that exactly two verses before this He says “as the Father has sent Me, I also send you", as if you have never actually even read this before, and your familiarity with it is entirely derived from how Rome's propagandists have used it in their rhetoric. That would be embarrassing.

            And since your learning is so far beyond my lowly brainwashing at the hands of Pastor Jim Bob, it would also be embarrassing if you were unaware the underlying verbs are in the perfect tense, so that it could be rendered "if you forgive any, their sins have been forgiven" implying the forgiveness precedes its pronouncement.
            >they were given the power to WITHOLD forgiveness as well.
            So if I go into one of your churches, and I earnestly confess my sins to the priest, he has the right to say "nah, burn in hell you sick frick"? Because it would seem to really undermine your argument if he doesn't

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Binding and loosing power means the apostles had the power to bind conscience with their doctrine. This was given by Christ only to the apostles, not to all Christians.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Binding and loosing power means the apostles had the power to bind conscience with their doctrine
            No it doesn't. The power of the keys concerns church membership, through evangelism and discipline. It is not an epistemic power at all.

            >So it would be really embarrassing if you somehow didn't know that exactly two verses before this He says “as the Father has sent Me, I also send you",
            What does that have to do with anything? The Father sent Jesus to forgive sins too, didn't He?
            > it would also be embarrassing if you were unaware the underlying verbs are in the perfect tense, so that it could be rendered "if you forgive any, their sins have been forgiven" implying the forgiveness precedes its pronouncement.
            The forgiveness RELIES on the pronouncement, which is why the verse says "IF you forgive any." If this verse really was about the efficacy of their evangelism, then why do they need to pronounce their forgiveness in order for them to receive it? By opening their hearts to the gospel, wouldn't they already be forgiven?
            Like, it's so clear that they received the power to forgive sins. This is why Christ breathed the Holy Spirit in them, because it is the spirit of God within them that confers upon them the power to forgive, not their own merits.
            >So if I go into one of your churches, and I earnestly confess my sins to the priest, he has the right to say "nah, burn in hell you sick frick"? Because it would seem to really undermine your argument if he doesn't
            Are you saying that a priest should forgive the sins of someone who does not display the adequate contrition demonstrating his desire to amend his sinful ways? If I confess the sin of running an abortion clinic, the priest should want to know whether I plan to keep running it, and if I do, that in and of itself is evidence of my lack of contrition. God's mercy is ONLY issued to the contrite, and it is the priest's remit to make sure that it remains that way.

            >What does that have to do with anything?
            What did He send them to do? Pick up dry cleaning?
            >The Father sent Jesus to forgive sins too, didn't He?
            By suffering death on a cross in the place of the elect, yes.
            >The forgiveness RELIES on the pronouncement, which is why the verse says "IF you forgive any."
            They are forgiving them because they have repented. There's nothing in the verse suggesting the power is theirs or that it is a condition of them being forgiven, it simply says under these conditions (in which the unbeliever repents), they are forgiven.
            >This is why Christ breathed the Holy Spirit in them, because it is the spirit of God within them that confers upon them the power to forgive, not their own merits.
            The Spirit of God is not a magic talisman. They did not receive a power as if being granted the ability to cast spells, they were given the Spirit because of their unique office as apostles.
            >Are you saying that a priest should forgive the sins of someone
            The priest should decry his office and the church of Rome for the affront to God and the gospel of grace they are. My point is that the withholding of forgiveness is responsive to the unrepentantness of the unbeliever, and not an authority of their own they are being given (much like the granting of forgiveness in the same sentence). Are you agreeing with this now, or does your priest have the right to withhold forgiveness if he pleases?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >By suffering death on a cross in the place of the elect, yes.
            Oh, so you're a Calvinist who believes in limited atonement? Yeah, I'm good. Only Christ - the true Christ - can wipe the clay from your eyes, not any rhetoric of mine.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            God bless.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So it would be really embarrassing if you somehow didn't know that exactly two verses before this He says “as the Father has sent Me, I also send you",
            What does that have to do with anything? The Father sent Jesus to forgive sins too, didn't He?
            > it would also be embarrassing if you were unaware the underlying verbs are in the perfect tense, so that it could be rendered "if you forgive any, their sins have been forgiven" implying the forgiveness precedes its pronouncement.
            The forgiveness RELIES on the pronouncement, which is why the verse says "IF you forgive any." If this verse really was about the efficacy of their evangelism, then why do they need to pronounce their forgiveness in order for them to receive it? By opening their hearts to the gospel, wouldn't they already be forgiven?
            Like, it's so clear that they received the power to forgive sins. This is why Christ breathed the Holy Spirit in them, because it is the spirit of God within them that confers upon them the power to forgive, not their own merits.
            >So if I go into one of your churches, and I earnestly confess my sins to the priest, he has the right to say "nah, burn in hell you sick frick"? Because it would seem to really undermine your argument if he doesn't
            Are you saying that a priest should forgive the sins of someone who does not display the adequate contrition demonstrating his desire to amend his sinful ways? If I confess the sin of running an abortion clinic, the priest should want to know whether I plan to keep running it, and if I do, that in and of itself is evidence of my lack of contrition. God's mercy is ONLY issued to the contrite, and it is the priest's remit to make sure that it remains that way.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No because they don't believe in christianity (noone does)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_martyrs

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    digits and I will go to hell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rerolling for you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        digits and I will go to hell

        Based, welcome to heaven

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All people go to hades, first of all, the place of all dead people.

    Secondly, within hades, whether you're in hell or the bosom of abraham, depends entirely on the general character of your soul, not specific deeds, although confessing can improve this conditionally, its not automatic, your forgiveness is inherent to the way your soul receives it

    Thirdly, all christians who have taken communion will be resurrected from hades at the end of times, whether they went to confession or didnt, because "the sacrifice of life is a gift, not a prize"

    This is the teaching of the orthodox christian church

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is this different from traditional Catholicism?

      I was with some Catholics yesterday and when our friends went missing in the canoe and we were speculating as to their fate, the Catholics agreed that they hoped these friends were “fully confessed” and “in good standing” in the Church, lest they go to hell.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, catholics believe in a strict heaven-hell dualism, they also think everyone had to go to heaven or you will be tortured forever, while orthodox christians think that only saints need to be in heaven for the purpose of praying for the living and the dead; if you've ever taken communion, you dont really have to worry too much, confession is just a tool for theosis, not a second baptism that removes your sinful nature, that's borderline pelegianism

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That’s good to know, thanks anon, maybe I’ll check out Orthodoxy again.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Orthodoxy is not one of many religions to pick and choose from, keep in mind our traditional historiography of "religion" is orthodox (us) and heterodox (everyone else), you either give all of your faith over, or you might as well leave it at the door

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok? I just said maybe I’ll check out Orthodoxy again, you turned me off of it with this post though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If that's all it takes to hinder your interest, you were never ready to make a commitment in the first place

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Masturbation is usually considered a sin because of the story of Onan, but he was actually punished because he refused to knock his dead brother's wife up. It does cause you to become unclean in the laws of Moses, but so does a woman menstruating or touching a dead body.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, masturbation is considered a sin because you can access good and evil without needing scriptural reference due to the logos, through which everyone intuitively knows that masturbation is a sin

    • 3 weeks ago
      1234567

      >The next statement in the Bible says that Onan displeased Yahweh, so the Lord slew him.[25] Onan's crime is often misinterpreted to be masturbation but it is universally agreed among biblical scholars that Onan's death is attributed to his refusal to fulfill his obligation of levirate marriage with Tamar by committing coitus interruptus

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the scholar magisterium has spoken and the case is closed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No masturbation is a sin because lust is a sin. Nobody jerk offs while thinking about their wives except for cuckolds but they are also practicing a separate sin of not being the man of their household.

      https://i.imgur.com/hx7c5yT.jpeg

      Do Christian’s really not jerk off and/or confess to a priest every time they do? And believe they might be sent to hell if they die before being forgiven? Ridiculous.

      If you truly (keyword "truly") intended to confess but couldn't due to circumstance God will forgive them regardless.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Do atheists really believe that nothing somehow created something and men can become women by changing their appearance?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not one or the other.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christcuck are such puritans that they never told me about masturbation before I became total coomer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >telling randos how to jerk off unprovoked
      Yeah maybe that's kind of creepy or something, dumbass pajeet.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing really in the Bible about masturbation except for being unclean after you release semen. Even when Jesus talks about lusting after a woman is adultery I think it makes more sense in context of what Jesus is saying. Adultery is wrong but you're not really much better off if you're fantasizing about banging your neighbor's wife. Paul might be the closest but he doesn't talk about masturbation directly just the general idea that you should avoid sex altogether unless it's with your wife and even then Paul preferred if you just stayed non-sexual altogether and used that energy towards the faith instead.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Radiochan

    christians jerk off in front of nuns

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well when a priest rapes a kid, do you think they confess it? Of course they don't. Because even if they know they will not face any consequences for their actions, they also inherently know that this sort of information can be used against them as blackmail and not even the supposedly most holy of humans are above that. So no. Like most normal humans they'll confess to the small time, non-embarassing stuff and keep the real bad stuff under their hat.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    am I really supposed to tell a priest I just jerk offd to drawings of little girls getting raped by tentacles?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're supposed to stop doing that anon...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        okay but if I stop do I have to go tell him I did it and ask for forgiveness or may I just carry on as as if it never happened?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Confess your sins to God.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Confess your sins to God.

          You don’t need to go into gory detail concerning sexual sins, just whatever your conscience requires.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think that the idea behind it is not ridiculous, which is that you should talk to girls and preferably get married.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I go to confession whenever I jerk off to porn

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    poor priest 2bh, I guess that's why they rape their children

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