Do you agree with Tolstoy that history isnt driven by great men?

Do you agree with Tolstoy that history isn’t driven by great men?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No in that anything important is created by great men
    Yes in the sense that there are 50 of them instead of 1

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Great Men" are those fit for the particular circumstances. They can guide the forces which selected them, but they do not control them. Napoleon watching the battle before Moscow is a spectator, the will of the mass of soldiers decide the battle

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scientists debunk this in a literal sense. Einstein was great, newton was great

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought scientists believed in statistics

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Scientists don’t “believe” in anything and how do statistics make them not great?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then why do paradigms exist?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What again does that have to do with newton creating calculus, discovering gravity, and formulating laws of physics, which makes him great?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you replied to the wrong post.
            Anyhow, working in science I can tell you first hand there is a lot of belief going on

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I replied to the right post. He may have replied to the wrong post because it had nothing to do with the subject of newton and Einstein being great men.
            Anyways, are your coworkers throwing out or doctoring experimental results because they don’t align with their hypotheses? If so, just report them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nobody is saying that they weren't great men the question is if they were necessary or if history would have produced equivalent great men, it's about uniqueness

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The great man theory is an approach to the study of history popularised in the 19th century according to which history can be largely explained by the impact of great men, or heroes: highly influential and unique individuals who, due to their natural attributes, such as superior intellect, heroic courage, extraordinary leadership abilities, or divine inspiration, have a decisive historical effect.
            No it isn’t. But I see we are arguing two different things so goodbye.

            whole scientific careers are built on ideologies which might be refuted with new discoveries, boomer professors will cling to their view till death

            I’m talking about actual science ie biology, chemistry, and physics

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you want to explain a system by focusing on one part of it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Scientists don’t “believe”
            Very naive POV
            Science as a discipline isn't based on belief, but scientis are human people, and thus very fallible and prone to being illogical for a multitude of different reasons

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Scientists publish within their field with empirical evidence. If they make up results they are frauds and get found out eventually because what they said is false. If a scientist is a slave to an ideology it doesn’t change the value of their published works.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >what is dark matter literally being made up instead of admitting our previous laws may be uncomplete
            >what is string theory still has ZERO experimental evidence even though its a prestigious and important field of study
            Nah

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            whole scientific careers are built on ideologies which might be refuted with new discoveries, boomer professors will cling to their view till death

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Newton would not have been (as) great in Einstein's time, and vice versa. Newton worked alone, which was not really possible in the 20th century. Einstein was highly collaborative. You are talking about perhaps the 2 greatest minds in history, so they probably would have done ok regardless, but it's not true that Newton would have been NEWTON if the problems he had to deal with were of the complexity of relativity and QM.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some men are just special. Like Josiah harlan. The rest of us can just watch.
    Great man theory is 100% true

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i unironically think asimov did a great job of showing how history can be mainly moved by general trends but then a Great Man can disrupt it

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i am a marxist so yes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      historical materialism is a meme little one

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tolstoy adds an interesting twist by indicating that not only the Great Man’s followers but also his rivals may contribute to the construction of his perceived greatness.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >At that time there was in France a man of genius – Napoleon. He conquered everybody everywhere – that is, he killed many people because he was a great genius. And for some reason he went to kill Africans, and killed them so well and was so cunning and wise that when he returned to France he ordered everybody to obey him, and they all obeyed him. Having become an Emperor he again went out to kill people in Italy, Austria, and Prussia. And there too he killed a great many.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he
      ok

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