Does anyone ever actually care about morality and principles like not murdering and torturing?

Does anyone ever actually care about morality and principles like not murdering and torturing? The more I read political rhetoric or interact with politicized people the more I get the impression that everyone actually just wants to kill their opposition and only cry crocodile tears when it happens to them.
The entire Cold War is just this whole dynamic playing out; Leftists justifying left wing violence with tracts of text and yada yada, Rightists justifying mass executions while then turning around and saying "all life is sacred because God or something", etc. Both are just such bloodthirsty c**ts, I honestly can't actually fault either side for killing the other when it's clear that they both just want to do that.
So what's the point of it all? Why do we even bother discussing "morality" in a political or geopolitical context anymore?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, politicians are hypocrites, it's in the Bible. Not exactly profound

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    behaivoural psychology for males is finance, all things are reverse engineered from ultimate ends which are objectively comparable via most productive output vs scarcity under aforementioned quantitative discipline

    rest is giving an order

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    distortion correction lies under emh as arbitrage of action selection; humantics. winners settlement of differences think pearly gates

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    amoral utilitarianism

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    While not universal, that's my experience as well. It takes work to overcome, and most people aren't willing to put in the work.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Does anyone ever actually care about morality and principles like not murdering and torturing?
    Basically all countries have laws against murdering and torturing people, so people seem to care.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can literally justify doing anything with any kind of reasoning. All you have to do to justify harming someone else is to paint them as the bad guys and deserving of it in some way. Plenty of people in history just said "God said I should do it so I am doing it." Genghis Khan for example. His rhetoric was literally this simple: "God hates you for your sins so he allows me to rape and kill everyone with impunity". He used that excuse to genocide half the world. It can be that simple. Especially if you keep getting away with it and facing no consequences. Most people don't kill their enemies simply because they'd face negative consequences for it. Purely selfish reasoning.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      schizo tard babble

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think thats just more of a consequence of you looking at people who are far more prone to outbursts

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People who are not mentally poisoned by Twitter, Reddit, and IQfy do still have morals yesz

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Twitter, Reddit, and IQfy did not exist when mass murdering dictators did what they did.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Millions of people across the world partook in killings of great scale during the Cold War, long before these mostly American websites.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The entirety of Western political thought went wrong since Machiavelli wrote this book.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most western politicans have never read his book

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    uh no, because I'm not a psychopath

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People who are not mentally poisoned by Twitter, Reddit, and IQfy do still have morals yesz

      >Does anyone ever actually care about morality and principles like not murdering and torturing?
      Basically all countries have laws against murdering and torturing people, so people seem to care.

      That's not the point though, or at least it doesn't jive with observed reality. Looking at something like the Spanish Civil War, it's obvious that not everyone involved could possibly be a psychopath, the killings were rationalized into happening and quite frankly I can see how both sides (or all 5+ sides) reasoned into that corner.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it may very well require force to overturn a violent system, and when you look at the life expectancy difference between rich and poor today, killing some richgays and politicians to fix it looks like by far the lesser evil
    but there's a difference between that and being the bloodthirsty we love massacres type.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally me. I want to harm my opponents strip them of all rights and generally oppress them but I don't want it to happen to me or people I like. I want good things to happen to me and bad things to people I don't like

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Parasites are attracted to power or where it seems to be found and will fake a whole persona to use it's advantage. That's why revolutions that seem doomed from the beginning seem so genuine, because only genuine people would risk it all for a higher cause (think Lenin), while parasitic people would see no benefit, but then later join the cause when it seems it can win and they can get power (think late USSR leaders).

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You have to be 18 or older to use IQfy, sorry anon.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    speaking about politics in the US specifically,
    >The more I read political rhetoric or interact with politicized people the more I get the impression that everyone actually just wants to kill their opposition and only cry crocodile tears when it happens to them.
    this is only true about vaush/hasan fans who project it onto everyone else though, and actual neonazis I guess
    >Rightists justifying mass executions
    in the third world, maybe? I haven't heard anyone prominent on the right support genocide or describe their enemies as "ontologically evil" who will heckin' kill us all if we don't kill them first! Except when it comes to palestinians or iraqis, but I think it's mostly because they're ignorant of the realities of the indiscriminate mass murders and land grabs. The only real murderous cynicism I hear is from commies like hasan and vaush who constantly fantasize about being shot against a wall or bombed with mortars by a nazi alt right regime in the USA lol, and that justifies their insane views about political rights

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most politicians are elitist psychopathic pricks. Of course THEY don't care about morality.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Killing people can fix things.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Op, i suggest three works to learn why amorality and might makes right is the way to go.
    Blood Meridian.
    No Country for old men and the movie version.
    and Starship Troopers.
    https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=46FA1DF04C8D07F182823478B5EC8727
    https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=2C5173C61AC0DC2DAAFC3F22C756BB9C
    https://altair.pw/pub/lib/Cormac%20Mccarthy%20-%20The%20Blood%20Meridian.pdf

    Watch the movie in netflix or in torrents.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Blood Meridian
      Just read any book on the Comanche or Plains Indians in general, the c**ts were almost universally horrible

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Murder is terrible
    If I believe in objective morality and lets suppose that we take the definition of murder as the deliberate killing of another person, am I supposed to see all instances of murder as being all an equally huge crime or is it possible for me to see one occurrence of murder as being terrible and other as being so mitigated that it essentially ends up being neutral?
    A man finds a random victim on the street and decides to kidnap them and murder them
    That is a terrible crime
    A boy decides to grab a kitchen knife, sneak up on his father whilst his father is sleeping and stabs him to death
    The boy had been abused and molested by his father for many years, am I supposed to see this as being an equally terrible crime as the above if I am consistent with my objective morality beliefs?
    A man is at thanksgiving with his family
    His father had molested him throughout his childhood and abused him
    Though he is in no danger of this any more, he still kills his father
    What am I supposed to think about this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Murder is terrible
      Murder is terrible.
      When the act of taking someone's life is not terrible, it's not 'murder', it's 'killing' (Soldiers, black ops, executioners, biblical prophets, etc. - all are glorified for it)
      Hence, the difference is how you currently feel about the act.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It can feel good to think of others as abstract, ontologically evil demons whom every desire you've ever had can be unloaded upon them with no guilt. It can feel amazing, even. But to see yourself as one of those abstract, imaginary demons?
    People do care about morality, but it's not uncommon for people to shirk and become defensive when they realise something they are doing or something they have already done can be considered immoral. Which is not to say those people can't change - it just takes a while for people to change their minds. It's not an instant process, but a slow and grueling one. Ironically, a culture that condemns violence or a justice system that presses down harshly on those whom have been deemed "evil" can actually do a lot to slow down this process, because again, realising you yourself belong to the very category of evil "others" you and others despise can HURT.
    And in something like a war where blood gets spilled, dust is choking the air and you can't tell what's happening, rage against the enemy, fear and the desire to survive, cruelty brought about by a desire for vengeance because you are not murdering people but merely exterminating pests - when everything settles, what then? You're likely to have done terrible things, and if not you, your friends, your family, your neighbours. Your homeland. Maybe some of it was justified. That might not make you feel better about it. You have to protect your self-image - no, not your self-image, but your self-identity - you can't be a bad person.
    Maybe a lot of these justifications are not a result of building from the ground up to arrive at a conclusion, but rather, the destination was decided from the start.
    At least that's my take on the matter.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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