does this rule apply to authors too?

does this rule apply to authors too? obviously most would agree the cut-off is a much later age, but does the principle generally hold true?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Masterpieces have been written by old people. This moron is projecting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Frankly, it's different for different writers. Some start fast, peak fast, and never reach that high again. Some peak late in life. Some produce consistent masterpieces throughout their entire lives, and live a long time.

      Pic related, Gene Wolfe wrote this when he was 81.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When it comes to pop music I would agree with him. Early in an artist career it is about expressing themselves and the art is fueled from a place of "I need to tell this story", whereas after their first album or two of critical acclaim, the suceeding albums become more about commerce and making a living. Not to mention once an artist becomes rich, they don't have anything really and truly meaningful to say living from their lives of comfort.

      This, Milton wrote Paradise Lost in his late 50's and Homer was probably in his 50's when he wrote The Odyssey.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >When it comes to pop music I would agree with him.
        Only if you believe that the pop “artist” is the artist and not just the face of a commercial product. Most pop music is great thanks to the producers, who are always older guys. e.g. George Martin with The Beatles. That’s the reason why Paul’s music has sucked for the last five decades, because anything great about his music before that was thanks to another person.
        There are exceptions, but those exceptions keep making good music when they’re older as well until they stop giving a shit, their brains get fried by drugs or their style becomes too outdated.

        Also this phenomenon happens mostly in pop music because pop music is a product mainly aimed at the youth. When artists are younger they are more in tune with youth culture and zeitgeist, so they make “good” popular music. As they get older they lose touch with newer youth cultures so they make “bad” popular music by this standard. Oasis kept making the same milquetoast 90s alternative rock long after it stopped being relevant, unlike Radiohead or Damon Albarn with Gorilaz who evolved with the times so they kept being relevant.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People still dickride the Beatles?
    They're boring and shitty pop music held up by them being a 9/10 in Bongland. No better than One Direction.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Contrarianism is boring

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even forty years after they passed from relevance contrarian teenagers still go "beatles are... le bad!" like they're saying something meaningful. Truly the gift that keeps on giving.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dude they're just 1960s one direction apart from the fact that they all played their own instruments, wrote their own songs, had to grind out a name for themselves as nobodies playing at pubs in germany, completely re-invented their style several times over and have been cited by other massive names as a huge influence for decades since

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok but their music is boring

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, authors, at least great authors, only get better with age. Rock is one of those very low artforms that precludes a great mind going into it, so it all depends on youthful vitality and energy and when that's gone you've got nothing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, rock n' roll is not for old men. Even among genres of music it's very much unavoidably a young man's game.

      Classical music is like literature in that its producers often get better with age. Pic related, Beethoven wrote the 9th Symphony and the late string quartets, arguably the greatest things he ever composed, when he was in his 50s and almost ready to die.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's the same with most great geniuses. Mozart was only getting better and better, Goethe wrote Faust II, Joyce wrote Finnegans Wake, etc. We would have to have a low estimation of these men to assume they would falter out in old age.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Stones, Bob Dylan and Lou Reed had a few good songs into their early 40s. But most of their best stuff was written in their twenties.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It does not apply to authors. Rock musicians are always faced with the prospect of aging out of their own demographic, or pursuing other interests in search of new audiences and seeing how many of their fans follow along. They can also go the route of making the same songs over and over again and aging alongside their fans. Authors have considerably more creative latitude and do not necessarily have to adhere to as many informal rules their audiences are accustomed to, and may actually be punished for not breaking those rules in some cases. Gallagher made his money and his well ran dry and now all he is good for is making creative statements about this, perhaps if other rock musicians had not overdosed or committed suicide by other means they would he looking at similar prospects.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because modern music is designed to appeal to teenagers, and the same can't be said so easily for books.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does not even apply to lyricists. Leonard Cohen wrote beautiful songs until his death, and so did Bowie. They both wrote perfect songs ton confronts your mortality.

    Also that prick is known to shit on everything and everyone.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they just burned their brain after a decade of liquor and heroin. tough shit junkie.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There’s no rule as it varies from author to author, but generally I think the greatest works of literature were written when the author was 30+.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wagner wrote and composed Parsifal when he was around 70

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When you get old, you usually stop experiencing rushes of inspiration, which kick off short-form creative work like songs or lyrical poems. But works that require patience and discipline like novels might benefit from age, as long as you can avoid the common distractions like being preoccupied with family too much.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dante was already 40 years old when he started writing the Divine Comedy.
    So was Virgil when he wrote the Aeneid.

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