Ever notice how people have completely stopped talking about MCNs on YouTube?

Ever notice how people have completely stopped talking about MCNs on YouTube? It's not like they went away, in fact every other channel is owned by someone else now.

Don't believe me? Click on any channel above 500k subscribers, find their email address, and you'll see it's not a personal account, it's their manager's.

The website hasn't been about broadcasting yourself for more than a decade now and no one seems to care.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That would explain why the vast majority of tech and gaming review channels are shills.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Digital Foundry is owned by IGN just to give an example. I think Gamers Nexus is independent which is why they're not pushed in the algorithm as much as LTT

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        IGN bought Eurogamer. They didn't buy Digitalfoundry. Digitalfoundry is a contractor for Eurogamer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Digital Foundry is owned by IGN just to give an example.
        Nah, Wichard is still the majority owner.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I think Gamers Nexus is independent which is why they're not pushed in the algorithm as much as LTT
        wrong, gamers nexus isn't pushed by the algorithm because no one wants to watch an old man ramble for 40 minutes about the details of one piece tech that no one would care about. his content is highly technical instead of being entertaining or engaging, if you don't care about what his video topic you wouldn't even bear watching it even on 2x speed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        LTT is pushed more because it's a wacky and funny channel that does videos like water cooling a server with a pool. It's not meant for serious discussion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Digital Foundry is owned by IGN just to give an example. I think Gamers Nexus is independent which is why they're not pushed in the algorithm as much as LTT

      IGN bought Eurogamer. They didn't buy Digitalfoundry. Digitalfoundry is a contractor for Eurogamer.

      https://i.imgur.com/oShc4j9.jpeg

      Ever notice how people have completely stopped talking about MCNs on YouTube? It's not like they went away, in fact every other channel is owned by someone else now.

      Don't believe me? Click on any channel above 500k subscribers, find their email address, and you'll see it's not a personal account, it's their manager's.

      The website hasn't been about broadcasting yourself for more than a decade now and no one seems to care.

      Game review media was corrupt and pointless long before being bought out by larger media corps. Gaming websites from the very beginning relied upon exclusive access to review copies of games before the street release date. This ability to hear about what a game is like before anybody can legitimately buy it is what drove the traffic to their websites. If they wrote a negative review of a game, the publisher would blacklist them from receiving review copies of any of their future games.
      Find me one game review website from any era of the internet where the average of all assigned ratings is 2.5/5 stars or 5/10. I do not believe you will be able to do this, except maybe on some independent solo site that buys the games and reviews them after their release to an audience of 14 readers.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    youtube is the new TV for most people.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong here? Having a manager? Having a non-personal email so your personal doesn't get flooded? Having a manager when you get above a certain level? Separating your business with your personal for tax and legal reasons? What is your idea here? You only know of big youtubers cause you only scratch the surface. It makes sense to separate them. You don't need a MCN behind it, you need an LLC.
    >muh broadcast yourself
    It'd be career suicide once you get to a certain level NOT to get INSURANCE.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Way to completely miss the point.
      The point is all the big channels are controlled by the same MCN for a given genre, they effectively all get marching orders from the MCN to shill certain stuff. They don't have to declare it as a paid sponsorship because the MCN is a middle man.

      The most obvious example is ~~*leviathan tribe*~~ with guns and outdoors channels.

      https://www.leviathantribe.com/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're a latent homosexual if you watch any of those channels. Again, I don't watch any of that garbage. It's your prerogative to make the point, so it's on you if people misconstrue it. More israelite-bashing, so unsophisticated. You had that image ready because you want to retread the same old ground instead of writing a blogpost about it where you can go in detail. The first and third part of your initial post is what made your post capable of being misconstrued.
        >all the big channels
        >can only name a handful
        And again, it's career suicide not to attach yourself to a network or become independent from YT. I don't watch any Black folk on youtube. I block out all the sportstube and commercialized garbage. I don't need to look at some homosexual shooting guns, it's a fricking grift.
        >dude my brain makes the juice when I watch people fire guns

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick you're moronic and again missing the entire point.
          That was just an example, similar MCN exist for other genres, I just used that as an example because it's been well known on /k/ for years and I remembered it off the top of my head.
          >it's career suicide not to attach yourself to a network
          That's the whole point being discussed. For anyone to be successful on youtube they have to sell out to one of the MCNs were they'll wind up shilling the same stuff as everyone else with their own flavor to it.

          The discussion is about how this is the status quo on youtube, not about the individual youtubers decision to join. But the fact youtube puts youtubers in that situation.

          >More israelite-bashing, so unsophisticated.
          holy fricking pretentious and the triple parenthesis has been a meme for a long time. Stop coming to IQfy if it triggers you that much.

          >You had that image ready
          no I took a screenshot when I went to the website to get the link to post so that other people could go look at it for themselves. I included the screenshot as a TL:DR since a lot of people probably won't bother following the link.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You keep saying I'm missing the point without addressing anything I've said. You can't take HALF of my statement and act like it is my WHOLE statement.
            >you're just triggered you're just pretentious
            I called it boring, because it makes me bored. I am being bored. You know the state of my mind and yet you choose to ignore it for two namecalls.

            >just follow the link
            The link doesn't tell me anything I don't already know. You're clearly ready to spoonfed people who are too moronic to google basic acronyms. So that is the type of audience you are intending to capture in your thread. Which means you don't deserve my time. You're just going over the same old boring shit for the umpteenth time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You keep saying I'm missing the point without addressing anything I've said
            what do you mean you homosexual? I addressed it plainly. You were sperging out that youtubers have no real choice but to join and MCN and I pointed out the discussion is about how youtube has gotten to a state were that's the only option youtubers have.

            Hell in your first post you're the moron who confused forming an LLC with joining an MCN.

            What's wrong here? Having a manager? Having a non-personal email so your personal doesn't get flooded? Having a manager when you get above a certain level? Separating your business with your personal for tax and legal reasons? What is your idea here? You only know of big youtubers cause you only scratch the surface. It makes sense to separate them. You don't need a MCN behind it, you need an LLC.
            >muh broadcast yourself
            It'd be career suicide once you get to a certain level NOT to get INSURANCE.

            >You don't need a MCN behind it, you need an LLC.
            OP is specifically talking about MCNs, not youtubers having LLCs.

            and go back to plebbit if you can't handle being called a homosexual.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >homosexual sperging what do you mean
            How can you both claim to be doing what I'm asking of you, yet uncertain on what it is I mean? I gave a clear example, refer to the post you initially replied if you want to know where the example is. You have not addressed the example because you're incapable of actually having an honest conversation.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Guess I'll just break down your initial post Barney style.

            >What's wrong here? Having a manager? Having a non-personal email so your personal doesn't get flooded? Having a manager when you get above a certain level? Separating your business with your personal for tax and legal reasons? What is your idea here?
            Nothing is wrong with any of that, the issue brought forward by OP is MCNs. You can have an LLC and have all those benefits without being a part of an MCN.

            >You only know of big youtubers cause you only scratch the surface. It makes sense to separate them.
            Okay and what happens when your small youtubers blow up because they're good? They join an MCN and turn into shills like everyone else.

            >You don't need a MCN behind it, you need an LLC.
            Yes, that's the point, but you seem to think OP and everyone else is talking about LLCs, when no one was, the discussion was about MCNs. My only guess is you just started rambling about how LLCs are good for youtubers and it wasn't until the end that you realized LLCs and MCNs are separate things, but you were too lazy to go back and change the rest of your post.

            >They don't have to declare it as a paid sponsorship because the MCN is a middle man.
            Is this actually true?

            Yes, basically they give whatever product and press kit to the MCN, then the they let everyone use it for "free" then they all post their videos at the same time and share the revenue. So they never get paid specifically to do the one video, they just got revenue from their MCN who had access to the product.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mcn used to get adsense money because sponsorships weren't really a thing yet, theses management companies just get a percentage of sponsorships which isn't as bad in my opinion
            t. I know a couple fairly successful YouTubers

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cool story bro. Shit like machinima and fullscreen don't have clauses to put watermarks or intros on things anymore, and MCNs get creators a greater cut of youtube ad revenue.

            MCNs work out fancier contracts for ads and SEO and all that shit. If your intent is to make money, it's a foregone conclusion you should try to shoot for that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is this pic only aimed at americans? i have never seen any of these. And yes, the ones i can offer as proof are not better: I watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Did_a_Thing but he is also part of a network and .... i cannot find the image of it but it was online like 1 year ago

        naturally one would start giving some questions like : why would a network promote channels aimed at men? Why do those channels ahve some rather.... left wing takes?

        in the end of the day, these days you just have to not believe youtubers on anything political. My example has 90% non-political content and i just skip the 10%.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the real question marks are people like https://vidiq.com/youtube-stats/channel/UCtoaZpBnrd0lhycxYJ4MNOQ/ who are promoted as the "main political channels" and everyone else is "an ALEX JONES Conspiracy nut"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why watch a commie moron tho

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's unfortunate that he's a commie but tard engineering is fun as frick

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            as explained 90% of his content is not political and even the 10% can some times be ok. The video about some moron who served in the army and became a whistleblower and is now going to prison forever was good. the video about Australia literally being a NSA colony witch hosts some secret USA bases was good.

            The politics in these videos were cut and dry: 1. do not fight for the armies of the west or you are going to prison.
            2. if you are west's b***h you will get the army secret base and you will shut up.

            Based politics on youtube will not be found or promoted today, but it does not need to be 100% based for it to make sense and be good enough. Just like in Soviet Union there used to be comedians that were working with the state but did say a thing or 2 from time to time which was based.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They don't have to declare it as a paid sponsorship because the MCN is a middle man.
        Is this actually true?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            any source to that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes there is a source to that.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you want old youtube use peertube.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >peertube
      last time i tried to use that there was a 500mb total file limit and the instance i was using no longer accepted videos (even though i had an account for a year)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Find a different instance or host your own

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >host your own
          interesting, i'll actually look into that.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is an "MCN"?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >youtube found a way around anti-adblock killer again
      FRICK
      Anyone got a new extension recommendation?

      >Multi-Channel Network
      It's an agency that helps you manage your channel and connects you with other creators under their brand in return for a portion of your revenue
      Many of them are worthless, some are outright scams but if you get lucky you might find a legit one that good at managing video creators and promoting content

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >adblock issues
        how? still works on my machine.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Which extensions do you use?
          Just for youtube, I got any other side covered

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          don't reply surely is just the dumbass anti ublock tard for sure, I never have problems either in firefox esr and windows 8.1

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mr beast left night media you can stop spamming this shit now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't actually leave it he just said it's no longer his primary talent manager.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're doing it themselves

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mr beast left night media you can stop spamming this shit now

          So he's just a good guy now and we're supposed to forget everything and sunshine and rainbows, right?
          Fricking idiot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're doing it themselves

      [...]
      So he's just a good guy now and we're supposed to forget everything and sunshine and rainbows, right?
      Fricking idiot.

      He’s going to be canceled in 8-12 months. Mostly likely a “17.9 year old” fan will come out and say he groomed her

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >decade now and no one seems to care.
    zoomers love corpos so why would they care

    fun fact, these talent agencies use to list all their people on their sites. Now if you want to see their roster? You have to request it directly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes. it has all been scrubbed. It probably was too obvious for anyone who wanted to check some people like me that being part of a network means your opinion about some topics is screwed. Naturally i just assume all youtubers are homosexuals to counter this: even so-called based youtbers like PewDiePie are homosexuals.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The website hasn't been about broadcasting yourself for more than a decade now and no one seems to care.
    what's the issue? people only care about content

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is this why the last 1-2 years creators on the internet push so much anti-age gap propaganda? are they getting orders from the top to do so?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hmm now why would youtubers making content for children be the ones pushing hard for age-gap relationships hmm yes very much a mystery.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They’re pushing against age gaps between adults. So many content creators have comments how “problematic” Leonardo DiCaprio is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Youtube, and most other tech platforms, are based in California. Californian culture thinks age gaps are rape because of the socialist mindset they operate on. Any relationship (sexual, business, doesn't matter) with an unbalanced power dynamic is considered inherently exploitative and abusive. Combine that with everyone wanting to be a victim because its trendy and everyone wanting to lynch someone online to make themselves look more virtuous and you have the current "she's sixteen you six frick" epidemic.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This made me realize that YouTube requires you to solve a captcha to view a creator's email now. What the frick.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most big channels where the people are out in the open doing genuinely moronic shit are owned and have handlers. Most people are sub-90 IQ nowadays so its no surprise that teams like MrBeast are as popular as they are.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's some more.

      I wonder who Penguinz0's owner is, Or SomeOrdinaryGamers? Can't be a coincidence that they report on the exact same shit with the same style.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >SomeOrdinaryGamers
        that lazy jeet just copies everything he makes a video on

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's some more.

      I wonder who Penguinz0's owner is, Or SomeOrdinaryGamers? Can't be a coincidence that they report on the exact same shit with the same style.

      Way to completely miss the point.
      The point is all the big channels are controlled by the same MCN for a given genre, they effectively all get marching orders from the MCN to shill certain stuff. They don't have to declare it as a paid sponsorship because the MCN is a middle man.

      The most obvious example is ~~*leviathan tribe*~~ with guns and outdoors channels.

      https://www.leviathantribe.com/

      I only watch one of these guys, a couple I haven't watched in years, a couple more I've heard of, and the rest I've never even heard of. 90% of my subs are obscure channels with less than 500k subs, most of them are less than 100k.

      Plenty of self broadcasting still going on, you just won't find it on the front page.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's as simple as MCNs are no longer pure grifts that just take all their money, and the ones that remain actually provide them a decent service, so they no longer feel the need to complain about them like they did with say machinima. Like for example i know 3kliksphilip is or at least was with an MCN to help him deal with emails and they also do some neat cs specific stuff like get him access to counter strike events and bigger sponsors. Idk maybe it's different in other corners of YouTube but it just seems that no-one talks about them since you don't need them to get adverts anymore

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MCNs are literal content leeches, anyone who was around in the early days of youtube know that. Initially they existed as a "easy" way to get partnership on youtube for monetization but the bar for entry got dropped so hard it didnt make sense for anyone and considering how much money they made from the management split it was a waste of fricking time.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The website hasn't been about broadcasting yourself for more than a decade now and no one seems to care.
    because the broadcasting yourself didn't work. It was the people who were hiriing managers, cameramen, producers, etc. that took off and people just emulated it until it became the norm.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      broadcast yourself stopped being a thing when corpos moved in with dedicated channels to stop reuploads

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ever notice how people have completely stopped talking about MCNs on YouTube?
    That's because just like it was back in 2008, Youtubers that are part of one aren't worth watching.
    >Verification not required.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyways I don't have a youtube following or whatever but I do know my way around video editing software, should I maybe do an expose on this corruption? I know for a fact no one else is talking about it.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i dunno guys, im currently my own manager and im about to be monetized on my second channel while my main channel where i do game dev gets 1/1000th of the impressions. i think their algorithm is shit.
    tube com/nitroxnova
    tube com/@NitroxNova_IRL
    the real problem is people click on mindless dumb shit and exploiting morons is most profitable.
    there are lots of curated promoted channels that push garbage constantly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Pivot from game content to doing yoga videos
      >Surprised people would rather watch that
      I'm glad you proved there are women lurking this board but come on now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        go to my github i may commit more than you do, no pivot, stereo output.
        >a girl(not sure where you got this notion im anon)is beating you
        come on now 🙂

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my yoga has 2.7m impressions, my game dev has 200k, my click through on main channel is very high, yoga channel very very low. algorithm is a b***h as far as i can tell, i wish it was secret manager magic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i dunno guys, im currently my own manager and im about to be monetized on my second channel while my main channel where i do game dev gets 1/1000th of the impressions. i think their algorithm is shit.
          tube com/nitroxnova
          tube com/@NitroxNova_IRL
          the real problem is people click on mindless dumb shit and exploiting morons is most profitable.
          there are lots of curated promoted channels that push garbage constantly

          Your content needs better production value

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            please post your project and YouTube so i can see how it's done

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Youtube was cool when it was a hobbyist platform. Now it's bogged down by "creators" shilling bullshit products. The advertising is incessant and damned obnoxious. A major portion of the videos use nothing but stock footage and robot voices that mispronounce half the shit they utter.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    join my roomates peertube: https://fossfarmers.company/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Terms of FarmTube
      >No Natzi's
      >videos will be reviewed before upload

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He must had added that lately. Well he is bearnie guy, oh well. I guess go for tube.midov.pl instead.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >runs the best MCN in you're path

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The website hasn't been about broadcasting yourself for more than a decade now
    Why such a narrow timeframe?

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My mom finds a new random <100 subs food/travel/reviewer channel daily and every one of them feels like ancient youtube. It can still be comfy.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The website hasn't been about broadcasting yourself for more than a decade now and no one seems to care.
    Oh, I care. Everything is made by normbots now for normbots. The internet hasn't been ours for a very long time now.

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