Evil for Evil sake: ethical discussion

What do you think is the root of humans who do evil for evil sake of it?.
I think it's the fact that they are born evil.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Define evil.
    Describe the mechanism by which someone might be born evil.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Define Evil
      https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/evil
      ">Intending to harm; malevolent.
      an evil plot to brainwash and even kill innocent people
      Morally corrupt.
      If something is evil, it is never mandatory.
      Do you think that companies that engage in animal testing are evil?
      Unpleasant, foul (of odour, taste, mood, weather, etc.).
      Producing or threatening sorrow, distress, injury, or calamity; unpropitious; calamitous.
      (obsolete) Having harmful qualities; not good; worthless or deleterious.
      an evil beast; an evil plant; an evil crop
      (computing, programming, slang) Undesirable; harmful; bad practice.
      Global variables are evil; storing processing context in object member variables allows those objects to be reused in a much more flexible way.
      >"Describe the mechanism by which someone might be born evil.
      Brain disorders,genetics,biological...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The dictionary definitions are descriptive, meaning they just describe what people commonly mean when they use the word in every-day speech. Not everyone's personal definition of evil will be the same. And you didn't describe a mechanism by which someone might be born evil. How do brain disorders cause people to be evil, for example?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Genetics is the mechanism
          https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/magazine/can-you-call-a-9-year-old-a-psychopath.html

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            study shows that psychopathy is linked with satanic rituals performed during infancy or early childhood. genetics is how powerful people scapegoat it, because a young child could be conditioned unwillingly to exhibit that behavior and have amnesia towards the events that cause it. These attitudes typically have a supernatural element to them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Schizo derranged shit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you're right, we're just supposed to trust The Science™. The same Science™ that created all the people cited in this thread from their satanic experiments, who declares anyone that stands in the way of Progress™ must be killed. Which totally isn't just a part of the depopulation agenda, because that's just a schizo conspiracy theory :^)

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They come to believe that god is evil, or that the god of this world is the devil/lucifer, which isn't too absurd given that those who live good and honest lives usually die poor and those who are cunning and ruthless get obscenely rich. Presumably, if you do "evil" (or do "good" but assume the common idea of good is inverted), you will continue being rewarded for it by the devil. The belief that committing transgressions will bring about illumination from god is the basis of frankism, for example.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They choose evil because they are ignorant. They either cannot distinguish between good and evil, or they confuse evil with good, thinking that they will bring themselves some good consequence by doing evil to others. People are not born evil, but they are born with original sin.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but they are born with original sin
      What?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Original sin. Man's fallen nature (separation from God) and tendency to sin (concupiscence).

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think that really exists.
    I mean, we're basically talking about anti-social behavior beyond reason.
    At least whenever someone commits an anti-social act (I use anti-social because doesn't sound cartoon silly like "evil" does), there's usually a reason behind it. Like they have something to gain.
    There's none of that here just for the sake of it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(I use anti-social because doesn't sound cartoon silly like "evil" does)
      I just want to clarify further.
      What the hell does that mean to do something for evil's sake or to just be evil?
      Like, a mustache twirling villain that ties a damsel to a railroad?
      I mean, seriously?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He probably is referring to psychopaths.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, that's probably it.
          It's just, it came off as sounding like there's no reason to it.
          Now, I know that it doesn't take a lot to set off a psychopath because they have poor impulse control. But, there's a least a little something to those instances.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Evil for evil sake is impossible in human?even the ones in death row or that are in prison?.
            see the people posted here

            https://i.imgur.com/BZpTALg.jpg

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Scully

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            See, the problem is in the framing.
            They didn't do those things for "evil's sake."
            They did it because they wanted to.
            When you say that, "for evil's sake." it makes me think of Snidely Whiplash.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He probably is referring to psychopaths.

        https://i.imgur.com/BZpTALg.jpg

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Scully

        Okay, well I guess you really were referring to psychopaths.
        But, you want to know something though?
        A scientist did research on the brains of psychopaths. He found a common pattern to them missing parts of the brain, especially in the prefrontal cortex that controls our behavior.
        But, when he compared a brain scan of his own them their's he found that his was even more indicative of psychopathy than the others.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fallon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >"What the hell does that mean to do something for evil's sake or to just be evil?"
        You can be evil for good or do good for evil?.
        Show me cases where this is possible.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, I still don't like how you frame these, but I'll humor you here.
          Now, what you said is basically in line with the idea of ends justifying means.
          That's for the former.
          For the latter would be a instance of having an ulterior motive.
          These things do happen. People bend rules and people lend support for personal gain.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, I still don't like how you frame these, but I'll humor you here.
          Now, what you said is basically in line with the idea of ends justifying means.
          That's for the former.
          For the latter would be a instance of having an ulterior motive.
          These things do happen. People bend rules and people lend support for personal gain.

          Actually. You know what? I'll give you this.
          People can act cruelly for the sake of being cruel.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes,truth is more stranger than fiction.
            Do you agree with this or no?remember in later life they can choose,but at birth?.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Scully

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you've ever been frustrated b4 and destroyed something just for the satisfaction
    that sort of attitude isn't logical and it can be spontaneous especially in ur teens or on peds
    it's really not much of a leap to imagine people who exist with those wires crossed which could drive more intelligent and long-term evil as well

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have urges which are considered evil. Basically it's about deriving primal enjoyment from such acts. I also have a very strong sense of empathy which overpowers them. From a selfish standpoint the empathic enjoyment from people being happy is greater. I think the root is primal as well. People are born with a set of tendencies in different balances, which determines how they act on them. Some are socially positive, some negative.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Evil can only be done for its own sake.
    Evil cannot be a means to an end.

    Evil differs from "bad" and "wrong" as "bad" is an effect more than a describer and depends on a subject's perspective that may not be shared by the "baddie". A *bad* situation implies a negative outcomes for the one going through it.
    While "wrong" describes an action that is negative to a system the wrong-doer is considered an actor of.
    Evil is doing wrong, causing bad, with a specific *intent*.
    Doing wrong and causing bad with other kind of intent like personal gain, taking down what you consider tyrannical, any kind of one's own interests. That just makes you a jerk, a rebel, a dissident, a criminal, a fighter of justice, a warmonger.
    Evil is doing wrong and bad, intentionally, fully aware, for the sake of doing it. It is sadism without any restraints.

    >Born evil
    Someone born with an important lack of disposition to fully restrain themselves is referred as a psychopaths. But psychopaths aren't evil. They are unable to be fully aware of their acts. They are removed from the system they wrong and do not consider the bad they cause. They are more like *beasts*, intelligent beasts. They're cruel but unfeeling.
    Like a child crushing ants never growing up.

    Those referred as a sociopaths are the more likely candidates to perform actions with genuine *evil* intent.
    Many act erratic but a few, the most intelligent ones, act calculative. They willingly broke those restraints and enjoy the act of doing so.
    When they get cruel they feel it all. They'd enjoy anything from torture to murder and actively seek it.
    A sadistic sociopath is the most worthy of being called "evil incarnate".

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Evil is not born, it is made.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's self worship

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