Face of the decline of American space program.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the space program was in decline well before musk got involved. spacex was founded in 2002. at that point humans hadn't left LEO for thirty years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Humans have no reason to go to other planets. All of NASA's best work has been done in the past 20 years.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BASED and capitalism pilled

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          holy kino

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        citation needed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >sending thousands of tons of worthless crap to low Earth orbit
        Nothing useful will come out of it.
        It was all about the low rates - capital exploiting cheap credit and American taxpayer subsidizing rocket launches.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      always reminds me of this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Functions similar too, if you think about how both tech works

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ... And then both halves of your moms dildo blew up.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    frick space
    cure cancer and ageing first

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why not do all 3 of them??

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wouldn’t keeping the scientists alive and healthier longer lead to greater leaps in technological? It happened when glasses were invented.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >cure cancer
      Oh sure, let's cure thousands of diseases that we put into a single category. Sounds easy.
      >aging
      Boomer digital feudalism accelerationism.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think I can find a more literal crab-bucket analogy than humans trying to prevent another human from escaping gravity.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cope nasalet

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >NASA sucks ass because... because elon man bad

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Love this man like you have no idea

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think he's a cuck on Israel and Ukraine (as in, he really ought be against them), but I do respect him immensely and if he can get humanity multi-planetary that will pale anything dodgy he's done.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shill spam thread

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The decline of the American space program is the realization that there's nothing in space coupled with a general growing disdain for science and technology. This is just the grifter who comes in to frick the corpse by rehashing boomers sci fi dreams

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What happened since the second rocket blew up, did they fix it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The second one blew up because they didn't have a payload which would have consumed extra fuel. Because they didn't have payload, there were extra fuels, which they dumped. But that caught a small fire and the automatic termination system blew up the rocket as a result.

      So in essence, the primary system wasn't broken. The backup system was. But they'll fix the backup system and the primary system will also be more robust in ~1 month now. The rocket should be ready this month, flying next month.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How many times will it have to blow up before it becomes an issue

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          New issues poppin up in a new system is common. Its a completely new rocket that is set to revolutionize the entire industry by a factor of 100

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly I want to believe in the march of human progress and that there will be something for people in the future to work on and build towards but I also know Elon will say literally whatever he wants so I have to balance those two.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I believe in optimism. Even if it burns sometimes. Its better than being dead inside all the time and not having any dreams.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Man if this painting isn't evidence enough that we are getting nostalgia baited hard, I think it's important to have hopes and dreams but it's important to realize Elon is despite everything kind of a grifter and will never admit he's wrong (boring company). It would be sad if after all is said and done this just ends up burning through even more of people's goodwill and hope for space travel (which seemed to already be evaporating honestly)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >everything kind of a grifter and will never admit he's wrong
            Black person his rockets come up and come down.
            He delivers product , what the frick do you think grifter means.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Elon is a grifter
            You dont know what the word grifter means. If Elon is considered a grifter, then everyone else in the world must be 100X worse as there's even less credibility for everyone else

            To me he is a grifter because if he is wrong or something isn't possible he won't tell us, we saw this in the self driving stuff over and over. I never doubted that it was possible to launch rockets, I don't think anyone did but when we tie that into greater narratives about leaving earth and the future of humanity its not wrong to ask if people are being honest with you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There are 5+ million self driving Teslas on the road. LMAO. What the frick are you talking about?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >we saw this in the self driving stuff over and over.
            they're literally on track to solve that.
            it's just an AI-complete problem and Elon initially thought it wasn't because he's stupid like that

            That's exactly the point I'm making, he will just say whatever and the engineers will do their best to create what they can create and then we will just get the next wave of rationalizations. He says that in 2017 you'd be able to drive cross country with no hands in a Tesla taxi and now 7 years later you're going "oh but there's highway lane assist" and "oh but theyre going to solve it soon". And there's never any "oh sorry I was wrong, or oh sorry we miscalculated the complexity" it's just instantly forget everything you said and keep making more promises.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Autopilot has been driving on highway for those 7 years. Its a largely solve problem. The current program isn't highway driving. Its city driving. Its also largely solved.

            The narrative that it cant handle 1% of driving therefore it doesn't exist is a nonsense one.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It think that's a pretty cute idea that the sci fi auto pilot everyone and their grandma has been waiting around for for decades to free us from the "drudgery of the commute" has actually been here for years and just no one realized it because it only works 99 percent of the time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It means that Tesla cars have only been a recent success, people do not know the technology, they parrot nonsense/old information, they parrot hearsays/memes, etc.

            Its not a Tesla issue, its a human issue. Our communication systems are slow and society wide, have a large latency gap.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This also pertains to anything in the world too. Knowledge about a specific system is extremely limited. People may know the name of Tesla, they may know the word computer, or the word AI, but the chances of them knowing about autoregressive transformers/diffusions, or knowing the difference between internet explorer/firefox/chrome, or knowing tesla autopilot is like finding a needle in the haystack.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Except it's the complete opposite, when Elon makes a false promise it's circulated in the media and absorbed into the popular culture before it even has a chance to exist, just look at the cybertruck. AI/self driving is another area where I so badly want there to be advancements but that doesn't mean I'm just gonna have someone lie to my face over and over without ever showing any skepticism.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can just rent a Tesla for a day and test out highway autopilot.

            Its not something out of the world. Literally the technology exists, you dont need to believe in some crazy skepticism. You can test drive it and verify the claim if you so choose. Further you can lease a Tesla and rent a 1 month city self driving to test out the city driving capabilities. There's millions of self driving Tesla videos on youtube/twitter. You dont need to believe in a lie of your own making. You just need to experiment/verify yourself all the tools exists and aren't even that expensive

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's even a free way. By booking a test drive and asking to test autopilot system.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What do you think you're saying that I haven't already said, I even pointed out that it's the highway driving lane assist type stuff. The whole point is how thats supposed to look in contrast to the statements about a full scale cross country taxi service seven years ago, when stuff he tells us fails to be true we are never told why we just have to extrapolate it. So when someone like that makes promises about going to Mars and the future of humanity and their evidence is that they launched a rocket you should be skeptical.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Again, as I said, you can rent out a FSD for a month and do a cross country drive. The car does 99% of the driving while you do the manual charging. The technology already exists. You refuse to believe it. I'm saying try it out, it exists today.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can just go online and see owners in the last few months saying the lane assist is very cool but it has many weird aspects and they dont really trust it. Seems a far cry from the kick my feet back and eat noodles in a taxi while reading a book that I was promised years ago. You act like it's so insane to ask for honesty in someone projections and predictions instead of them just promising sci fi movie shit and hoping the nerds will figure it out.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There are some people raving about it and there are some people saying there are some issues. Over all, the system exists with some minor issues. The system isn't perfect as I've stated over and over and over again. But it does exists and it does 99% of the job just fine. Don't conflate a 99% working system with a 0% working system. Nor conflate 99% with 100%. But to claim 99% is 0% is disingeneus.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't see how "can drive on the highway with occasional wonks, some of which are very scary/worrying" is 99 percent of the way to "you can fall asleep while this car drives you to your parents house across the country".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            99% isn't you can fall asleep. 100% is. 99% means you have 1% ammo for those people want to claim its 0%.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Certainly explains why tesla drivers have so quickly overtaken bmws for people I see doing moronic shit on the road

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well the problem is that humans are 1 out of 1 million drivers rather than 1 out of 100. There's a long way to go.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >we saw this in the self driving stuff over and over.
            they're literally on track to solve that.
            it's just an AI-complete problem and Elon initially thought it wasn't because he's stupid like that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The problem isn't that it doesn't work. It works. Thats why its being used by millions daily. The problem for the "Elon bad" crowd is that its not 100% perfect. They take the 1% miss and turn it into the claim that it doesn't work, its not there, its bad, etc.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            For all the shit about “elon’s a scammer!” I’d say I’ve had substantially MORE time WASTED listening to the faux arguments of pathetic elon hating drones than the time any of musk’s “exaggerations” have ever wasted.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that's literally all time you wasted by yourself bro, no one to blame for that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Could have wasted more time but I didn’t so I win.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >greater narratives about leaving earth and the future of humanity its not wrong to ask if people are being honest with you
            Why would you believe he's lying about that?
            Tbh this makes you look dodgy. I suspect jealousy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Elon is a grifter
            You dont know what the word grifter means. If Elon is considered a grifter, then everyone else in the world must be 100X worse as there's even less credibility for everyone else

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I believe in optimism.
            Yes.
            >“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn't really matter. What matters is if progress is made.
          They blew up like 5 ships before doing the flights with booster.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He is being sabotaged by the deep state. The US will cease to exist unless all of those parasites in DC get exterminated to the last vermin spawn.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't know Musk was 80 years old and started his SpaceX activity before Nixon.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sorry but were to busy trying to prove the existence of trans people, and making vaccines

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >yet another musk derangement syndrome thread
    everyone knows why musk triggers people, keep the political content on the politics board

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  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >decline
    If that's what you call decline then what country is on incline? China? They're basically doing the same. Russia? Fricking lmao.

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