Firefox 126.0 comes with mandatory (!) TELEMETRY

Where's the outrage? The last hero has fallen?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That is not a new thing. read the digdeeper site, he goes through the ts and cs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ts and cs?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Their user agreement or whatever you call it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not him but "terms and conditions" seems the obvious answer.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I saw TS and CS when I read the post, not t's and c's. I know you never use an apostrophe for a plural, but in this case the rule is wrong.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Firefox's only purpose is to keep Waterfox and Librewolf alive.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And protect Google from antimonopoly legislation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If google pays for firefox development, why would a court think firefox is not part of google's monopoly?
        I don't get to own both Pepsi and Coke and I say I don't have a monopoly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because they don't own it directly, they donate to Mozilla

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, librewolf is where it's at. You can even install unverified addons without having to use that bloated developer edition.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Grsecurity is violating the copyright on the Linux Kernel by distributing a derivative work under terms other than the GPLv2 Only. Grsecurity is also violating the copyright on the linux Kernel by distributing a derivative work while attempting (successfully) to limit the rights granted by the linux copyright holders in the GPLv2 memorandum. Namely the right to distribute copies of derivative works of the Linux Kernel: which Grsecurity is. Grsecurity imposes a penalty (a negative covenant) on those who would redistribute grsecurity: a derivative work of the Linux kernel. Under US copyright Law: the copyright holder of the linux kernel has the right to control derivative works. The linux kernel copyright holder has decided to allow derivative works ONLY under the EXPRESS terms of the GPLv2 with NO OTHER terms added to the UNDERSTANDING between the PARTIES (this is NOT about adding terms "to the gpl").
        Grsecurity is a derivative work.
        >https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ14.pdf
        >Right to Prepare Derivative Works, Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to pre-pare, or to authorize someone else to create, an adaptation of that work. The owner of a copyright is generally the author or someone who has obtained the exclusive rights from the author. In any case where a copyrighted work is used without the permission of the copyright owner, copyright protection will not extend to any part of the work in which such mate-rial has been used unlawfully. The unauthorized adaptation of a work may constitute copyright infringement
        Richard Matthew Stallman today:
        >Pro telemetry in opensource/free software.
        >Pro-Grsecurity violation of GPL (silence).
        >Pro vaccine mandate.

        Firefox's only purpose is to keep Waterfox and Librewolf alive.

        has telemetry, you clearly have never mitm yourself, use iceweasel no binary blobs or just links

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why would I use any of these troony works when I compile firefox without drm or telemetry on gentoo

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            are you moronic? you can build iceweasel from source aswell dumb homosexual
            https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packages/extra.git/tree/iceweasel-uxp

            >iceweasel
            is not on flathub. Why should i use a browser that isn't sandboxed? I have no time anymore for shitty firejail configs or over complicated bubblewrap commands. Just give me that sweet flatseal nectar and i'm happy. I am content with the privacy user.js and flatpak sandboxing, thanks.

            >is not on flathub. Why should i use a browser that isn't sandboxed?
            what kind of malware is "flathub" LMAO
            disable javascript homosexual
            https://hanako.codeberg.page/

            On the topic of FF, is there anyway to get the bookmarks that are suggested in the adress bar to organize by frequency or reverse date? I hate that it shows me a website that I barely use on top versus the one Im actually searching for on bottom

            >btw anything that advertises itself as 'privacy friendly' is lying to you
            Classic gaslighting

            [...]
            >Stallman vaccine
            Qrd?

            https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html
            https://stallman.org/archives/2021-sep-dec.html

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >iceweasel
          is not on flathub. Why should i use a browser that isn't sandboxed? I have no time anymore for shitty firejail configs or over complicated bubblewrap commands. Just give me that sweet flatseal nectar and i'm happy. I am content with the privacy user.js and flatpak sandboxing, thanks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ps, you can probably make flathub package yourself but you wont because you are a Black person cattle and you will die defending people that want you killed

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As long as they kill you too I'm fine with this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            now address the sandboxing, which is considerably more important than any other privacy related flag out there.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            browsers already have their own sandbox, for all tabs, javascript and any task running inside of it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>Pro telemetry in opensource/free software
          did he actually say this too?
          where did he post this stallman.org or gnu.org or in one of the mailing list? can you link this?

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not new and not "mandatory" either, it can be disabled from about:config

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >(read more)
      >Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox.
      have a nice day.

      I didn't think I had to clarify this, but I suppose the phone-generation has two loudmouths here on IQfy. But that quoted legalspeak does not actually disable the telemetry discussed above. It is talking about specific other telemetry that can still be disabled.
      >technical or usage data
      Mozilla is explaining in the blurb just above that how this specific Telemetry, exclusive (as in: new) to 126.0, is not technical or usage data according to their own classifications, ergo you cannot turn it off. It is mainly put there to confuse morons such as yourselves. Who think the two statements relate to one another.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To add: Unless you can show me actual evidence, any denial is just gonna be ignored.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How can you be on IQfy and have this much misplaced faith in companies not abusing their access to your system?
        If you believe for one second your piss poor understanding of “legalspeak” means that mozilla wont or can’t abuse the access granted via your installation of firefox then you’re a complete pretender and do not belong anywhere near this site

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Firefox is FOSS, it's not a black box, you can actually read all of its functionality. Now frick off.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Firefox not a black box
            Only if you build it yourself
            The version they ship is not reproducible

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >legalspeak
        It really is a completely different language than what we speak.
        There is never any reason to not immediately assume any legal speak isn't written in bad faith because there is no reason to ever write it in good faith.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At this point legalism is new culture and religion.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Mozilla is explaining in the blurb just above that how this specific Telemetry, exclusive (as in: new) to 126.0, is not technical or usage data according to their own classifications, ergo you cannot turn it off.
        All of their Help pages mention that ANY telemetry can be disabled through these options. However, the "New Tab" page itself has its own set of separate telemetry so it's already a rabbit hole.

        It turns out that despite what everyone is saying, I cannot get a conclusive result on whether the telemetry is truly disabled or not with the options from the settings.

        On 126 (Ubuntu Snap version), there are two options; "serpEventTelemetryEnabled" and "serpEventTelemetryCategorizationEnabled". The latter is indeed disabled but not the former.
        On Nightly 128 (Windows), only "serpEventTelemetryCategorizationEnabled" exists but it is NOT disabled by the telemetry settings. So I don't know what's going on but it doesn't seem good.

        What's worse is that some guys found out that this "SERP thing" seems to have made its way in the ESR 115.11.0esr but without any setting to disable it. So yeah I don't know.
        Don't have a nice day I guess.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          isnt it just a matter of tracking if it phones home or not after those settings are believed disabled?

          it would seem someone would already be doing something like that somewhere out there either just because they are curious or they have motivation like shitting on mozilla

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mandatory
        why lie about things such as this, google prostitute?

        The only "people" who give a frick about telemetry are freetards and /misc/ schizoids. Telemetry is there to help the devs and has exactly 0 chances of affecting your life.

        have a nice day, Black person.

        frick you mozilla
        >Rest assured, the way we gather these insights will always put user privacy first.
        then revert this or i will blow up mozilla offices with dynamite

        > Black person can't read
        great thread.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Read the thread instead of treading on old ground.
          >hurr durr I'm too good to read the thread and follow conversation

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >data to Firefox
          By not using it? I just don't want my browser to send anything to Mozilla. Mozila can't into privacy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Except you can't turn off this specific new one. Nothing on about:config or options turns it off

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically We are under attack

      This /is/ new
      https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/126.0/releasenotes/
      > Telemetry was added to create an aggregate count of searches by category to broadly inform search feature development. These categories are based on 20 high-level content types, such as "sports,” "business," and "travel". This data will not be associated with specific users and will be collected using OHTTP to remove IP addresses as potentially identifying metadata. No profiling will be performed, and no data will be shared with third parties. (read more)

      Even when I click /read more/ I can't find out more.

      This is super creepy, it's spying on my browsing.

      The main question I have:
      > count of searches by category

      What searches? Is this spying on my Kagi/Brave/Google searches?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Even when I click /read more/ I can't find out more.
        moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To improve Firefox based on your needs, understanding how users interact with essential functions like search is key. To make sure that features like this work well, we need better insights on overall search activity.

        Let’s say you’re using Firefox to plan a trip to Spain and search for “Barcelona hotels.” Firefox infers that the search results fall under the category of “travel,” and it increments a counter to calculate the total number of searches happening at the country level.

        Here’s the current list of categories we’re using: animals, arts, autos, business, career, education, fashion, finance, food, government, health, hobbies, home, inconclusive, news, real estate, society, sports, tech and travel. Sensitive topics, like searching for particular health care services, are categorized only under broad terms like health or society.

        Having an understanding of what types of searches happen most frequently will give us a better understanding of what’s important to our users. This helps us take a step forward in providing a browsing experience that is more tailored to your needs, without us stepping away from the principles that make us who we are.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if that information is so important, and it comes from me, then why don't I own that information? Mozilla or any dev

          In a perfect world where they were all good people, they'd use it to find out what people usually do the most, improve on those features and by doing so, have a bigger userbase
          Unfortunately over the years that wasn't the case practically anywhere. Pointless shit people do not want that is force fed to them by MS, Google, Apple, just to name a few, and all that telemetry served no purpose towards building something people would actually want. I imagine it's the same deal here because as far as I know, telemetry is there by default, so a good chunk of people still would contribute without knowing, and they're getting stupid shit shoved down their throat anyways.
          I reluctantly use Firefox because it's the least worst shit. Chromium anything is a disgrace to me, and I'm too lazy to give up on Firefox Sync, I think it would be pointless to use something like Librewolf with that enabled, I'm already getting buttfricked.

          should compensate me for it if they want it that bad. It also means they don't have the user's interests because they don't ever use that information to design anything but how they want you to use the software, not how you want to use the software. Which is fine, its their damn software, but quit acting like its some act of altruism.

          If you don't pay for the product, you are the product.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yep. They refuse to listen to users at every turn, and now they want to collect the kind of data only advertisers would be interested in "to make firefox better". Who in their right mind would believe that.

            manifest v3 itself doesn't break ubo, what breaks ubo about manifest v3 is when they disable the API currently used by extensions to allow intercept and modify of net requests.

            Mozilla has chosen to implement all the new features of manifest v3 without removing APIs that allow critical privacy-protecting extensions to function. Mozilla argues that disabling these APIs aren't even necessary to improve browser security, as Google claims.

            The new APIs can be faster, yes, but that's because they're very limited in what they can do, so they're not at all good methods for extensions that seek to protect user privacy.

            And really, who here can honestly say their browser feels slow these days?

            They'll keep them around and win brownie points for a while. Just like how they kept around XUL while calling webextensions limited... Until they judged chrome was so entrenched that they could kill XUL.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > his helps us take a step forward in providing a browsing experience that is more tailored to your needs, without us stepping away from the principles that make us who we are.

          that is perfect satire, sounds just like big tech scum

          >Google Safe Browsing: on
          no need to report every site you visit to ((them)), just install Common Sense 2024 and call it a day

          Always disable Safe Browsing
          It sends away details about your downloads
          https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/reputationservice/ApplicationReputation.cpp#1634

          >lots of test.com
          Why should I care?

          those are unit tests to show you how to call that code... it pulls the db in json from remote-settings.

          >mandatory
          why lie about things such as this, google prostitute?

          [...]
          have a nice day, Black person.

          [...]
          > Black person can't read
          great thread.

          >Even when I click /read more/ I can't find out more.
          moron

          shill, kys,

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This helps us take a step forward in providing a browsing experience that is more tailored to your needs
          my browsing experience is mine to decide and you can frick off

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i do not want you to improve anything for me, shut the frick up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Having an understanding of what types of searches happen most frequently will give us a better understanding of what’s important to our users.
          This is just grabbing advertising dollars and it's dumb anyway. But frick it, if I turn telemetry back on will the devs put the ALSA cubeb backend as a tier 1 supported option and fix its mixer handling finally?
          >No?
          Thanks but no thanks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically We are under attack

          This /is/ new
          https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/126.0/releasenotes/
          > Telemetry was added to create an aggregate count of searches by category to broadly inform search feature development. These categories are based on 20 high-level content types, such as "sports,” "business," and "travel". This data will not be associated with specific users and will be collected using OHTTP to remove IP addresses as potentially identifying metadata. No profiling will be performed, and no data will be shared with third parties. (read more)

          Even when I click /read more/ I can't find out more.

          This is super creepy, it's spying on my browsing.

          The main question I have:
          > count of searches by category

          What searches? Is this spying on my Kagi/Brave/Google searches?

          this is not an answer, or maybe I'm moronic but moz://a does not provide search. What am I missing really?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not new and not "mandatory" either, it can be disabled from about:config
      Mozilla shills already doing damage control

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its not damage control if its fricking wrong, its just lying

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >damage control
          >noun
          >: measures taken to offset or minimize damage to reputation, credibility, or public image caused by a controversial act, remark, or revelation

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's already disabled for me I didn't need to do anything

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thunderbird has the same shit for a while now and you cannot disable it or updates.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which config?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >(read more)
    >Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox.
    have a nice day.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only "people" who give a frick about telemetry are freetards and /misc/ schizoids. Telemetry is there to help the devs and has exactly 0 chances of affecting your life.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cool opinion. But that's only tangibly related to the discussion at hand. Feel free to stay on-topic or make another thread.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My opinion is absolutely on topic. KYS CHUD.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >software degenerating every time asiaspics touch it
      >telemetry is here to help!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The only people the ... are /misc/ schizoids"

      I have heard this exact phrase many times here it's like a broken record.

      Every time I read an agenda fulled script line like this I will give a frick.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >say this
        >constantly leave your containment zone and try infecting other boards with your brainrot
        do /misc/ manlets really?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >containment zone.
          >brainrot

          there are two womao lines right there, hot and ready to be ignored, or put down.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but /misc/
          Either lefty touristo or legit shill.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >t. /misc/ tourist

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes we have literal paid shills here that must correct certain opinions because they are paid to do so.
        There's an entire massive shilling industry that hides itself from public view but knows to spend money to keep public opinion in line.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you asked me a year ago I would have believed that 100% but now I am less creative and think that it's just company shills and womaos, commies, lesbians, satanists, blacks and whoever hates white people or loves money.

          But I could be wrong.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jokes on you, I'm a schizo psycho ceo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IQfys largest source of income

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >containment zone.
        >brainrot

        there are two womao lines right there, hot and ready to be ignored, or put down.

        >/misc/ gets mentioned
        >spergs out and starts spamming troonjaks
        Like pottery

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True. However, in this case the data they are collecting suggests that they want to build features into the browser that ought to be in extensions (e.g. sports scores, stock prices, ticket prices).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Telemetry is there to help the devs

      It's there to help the Mozilla marketing people come up with even more moronic features.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Telemetry is there to help the devs and has exactly 0 chances of affecting your life.

      help them do what exactly?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In a perfect world where they were all good people, they'd use it to find out what people usually do the most, improve on those features and by doing so, have a bigger userbase
        Unfortunately over the years that wasn't the case practically anywhere. Pointless shit people do not want that is force fed to them by MS, Google, Apple, just to name a few, and all that telemetry served no purpose towards building something people would actually want. I imagine it's the same deal here because as far as I know, telemetry is there by default, so a good chunk of people still would contribute without knowing, and they're getting stupid shit shoved down their throat anyways.
        I reluctantly use Firefox because it's the least worst shit. Chromium anything is a disgrace to me, and I'm too lazy to give up on Firefox Sync, I think it would be pointless to use something like Librewolf with that enabled, I'm already getting buttfricked.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if I don't want to help the devs for free you dumb Black person

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, they have no duty to write software for little subhumans like you, so you should, especiall that it doesnt cost you anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >say this
      >constantly leave your containment zone and try infecting other boards with your brainrot
      do /misc/ manlets really?

      For frick's sake, just because someone says something that's not politically correct doesn't mean they're from /misc/, IQfy has always been edgy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We are all Julian Assange
      And it affects all of us

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ah yes the devs have a legitimate and pressing need for
      >checks notes
      knowing if you're searching for "business" or "travel."

      Certainly management won't some day notice that it possesses a valuable data lake to sell to brokers.

      As an example, whether you're an anon that loves Trump or hates Trump it's hard to deny that a Cambridge Analytica has to get its personal data from somewhere.

      The global multibillion dollar PR industry, whose purpose is partly to gently coerce the public into acting against its own best interests, runs purely on vibes? Please.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't want to help the devs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go back you troony freak

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The only "people" who give a frick about telemetry are freetards and /misc/ schizoids. Telemetry is there to help the devs and has exactly 0 chances of affecting your life.

      You're not a programmer.

      It means it pings-back (phones home) when you did not ask it to.
      "Telemetry" is a new word in the context of programs.

      We used to call this phone-home spying in 2000.
      RMS was against it.

      Now he's for it.
      RMS was also pro-pedo.
      Now his stances have changed.

      Why did he change?
      And how do we kill the Zoomer homosexuals that celebrate the change or say "paida does not mean child, PEDOPHILE!" ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The only "people" who give a frick about telemetry are wrongthinkers and heretics Telemetry is there to help the devs and has exactly 0 chances of affecting your life.
      Its so tiresome.
      homosexuals like this are literally invasive vermin.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always run with telemetry off and most of my applications filtered for outbound traffic entirely by BPF rules.
      And then when features I use get removed I make a stink on the bug tracker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      as a dev, I understand this, but at the same time, I don't want the potential data that comes from it or steward it, especially with meme laws like GDPR making me a faux criminal in Yurope.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally every normalgay I know tries to opt out of telemetry, they're not just able to opt out of all of it due to technical limitations
      Even the tween girl browsing tiktok doesn't like the idea of some smelly Pajeet (read: you) gooning to her camera when she's not watching.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's nothing, wait until they sneak in an equivalent to manifest V3 to break ublock. No way will google allow firefox to continue to allow adblocking.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We need more wizard devs, go learn so we can have new browsers in a few years, before they are all gpt slaves.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Firefox already has manifest v3. They just specifically implemented it in such a way that allows ad blockers to continue to work.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Really? That confirms my suspicion google has made this change on purpose to get rid of decent adblockers.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's correct. Big tech already reached market saturation, there are no people left to get on board to google, youtube, facebook or windows. Both google and microsoft (and amazon also with aws) make more money from enterprise customers than regular users now. So they are trying to wring out more and more money from every user now.
          >inb4 commie
          Yes, Black person.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      manifest v3 itself doesn't break ubo, what breaks ubo about manifest v3 is when they disable the api currently used by extensions to allow intercept and modify of net requests.

      Mozilla has chosen to implement all the new features of manifest v3 without removing APIs that allow critical privacy-protecting extensions to function. Mozilla argues that disabling these APIs aren't even necessary to improve browser security, as Google claims.

      The new APIs can be faster, yes, but that's because they're very limited in what they can do, so they're not at all good methods for extensions that seek to protect user privacy.

      And really, who here can honestly say their browser feels slow these days?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Been holding out and using Firefox on my desktop because i don't want google to control the browser market. I already had to give up on Firefox on mobile because it's so garbage. This telemetry is pretty invasive, it's not really acceptable no matter what the claim about it being anonymous or what they claim to be using it for.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    disable "normandy" and that's it, this isn't new

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't shit my pants and tell me it's swamp ass, pardner.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >firefox 126
    Since this update the new post marker on IQfy doesn't work correctly anymore. It doesn't clear when scrolling down a thread.
    Any fix?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's an old bug that will 'fix' itself with more replies

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it's an old bug it got worse, and it's not fixing itself. It true that it doesn't happen with some threads though.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/telemetry-clientid

    > Interaction data includes information about your interactions with Firefox such as number of open tabs and windows, number of webpages visited, number and type of installed Firefox Add-ons and session length, as well as Firefox features offered by Mozilla or our partners such as interaction with Firefox search features and search partner referrals.

    Reading like the sped from Big Tech I am this means spying on Google (remember Firefox gets ad money from them aka "referral") searches.

    Lets trying find the code, I hope I'm wrong.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.ghacks.net/2024/05/14/firefox-126-telemetry-privacy-feature-and-security-fixes/

    There's an about:config fix, although it is already set to false if you disabled all that usage telemetry in the options. This also seems to be a thing for US users only.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They really love slavery in USA

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and not listed here https://probes.telemetry.mozilla.org/?search=serp

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm on 126 and it can be disabled, in fact.
        Still don't like where things are going tho. Mozilla did the Google strategy of using performance improvements as a Trojan horse for anti-features.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >serpEventTelemetry
          >serp
          They aren't even trying to hide it anymore, those hook nosed brood of israelite serpents!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It stands for search engine results page.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If these homosexuals used what they shill they would know

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      US users only or people using the US installation of FF?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >browser.search.serpEventTelemetryCategorization

      Oh cool, mine defaults to 'false'. Thanks, Debian maintainers 🙂

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting it's not listed here:

    https://probes.telemetry.mozilla.org/?channel=release&optout=true&constraint=new_in&version=126

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Found it
    https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/test/unit/test_search_telemetry_categorization_logic.js

    Firefox is kill, use https://ladybird.dev/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh look: https://mozilla-services.github.io/remote-settings-permissions/

      main/content-relevance This is to support the "Interest-based Content Relevance Ranking and Personalization" project. See project proposal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F8yzO0QK-PFhm3YLymcx2IGGw08ZGer0z3pUXvLi1Vs/edit?usp=sharing 2024-03-07 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1884151

      Document and bug are locked down.

      main/search-categorization The collection will contain JSON files with hashed domains mapped to an array containing category indexes and scores 2023-08-28 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1850058

      Bug is locked down.

      I wonder if this means we will see a "Privacy Sandbox" aka more tracking like Chrome in Firefox soon?

      Holy shit:
      https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/third_party/rust/relevancy/src

      Proposed API for the relevancy component (validation phase)

      The goal here is to allow us to validate that we can reliably detect user interests from
      history data, without spending too much time building the API out. There's some hand-waving
      towards how we would use this data to rank search results, but we don't need to come to a final
      decision on that yet.

      IT'S FRICKING OVER

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lots of test.com
      Why should I care?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you found tests, source here:
      https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/SearchSERPTelemetry.sys.mjs#1

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        let isPrivate =
        wrappedChannel.loadInfo &&
        wrappedChannel.loadInfo.originAttributes.privateBrowsingId > 0;
        if (isPrivate) {
        provider += `-${SEARCH_TELEMETRY_PRIVATE_BROWSING_KEY_SUFFIX}`;
        }

        Services.telemetry.keyedScalarAdd(
        SEARCH_DATA_TRANSFERRED_SCALAR,
        provider,
        bytesTransferred
        );

        yo they are even collecting searches from private sessions lmaoooo

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          disgusting

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh look: https://mozilla-services.github.io/remote-settings-permissions/

      main/content-relevance This is to support the "Interest-based Content Relevance Ranking and Personalization" project. See project proposal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F8yzO0QK-PFhm3YLymcx2IGGw08ZGer0z3pUXvLi1Vs/edit?usp=sharing 2024-03-07 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1884151

      Document and bug are locked down.

      main/search-categorization The collection will contain JSON files with hashed domains mapped to an array containing category indexes and scores 2023-08-28 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1850058

      Bug is locked down.

      I wonder if this means we will see a "Privacy Sandbox" aka more tracking like Chrome in Firefox soon?

      Holy shit:
      https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/third_party/rust/relevancy/src

      Proposed API for the relevancy component (validation phase)

      The goal here is to allow us to validate that we can reliably detect user interests from
      history data, without spending too much time building the API out. There's some hand-waving
      towards how we would use this data to rank search results, but we don't need to come to a final
      decision on that yet.

      >Mozilla is explaining in the blurb just above that how this specific Telemetry, exclusive (as in: new) to 126.0, is not technical or usage data according to their own classifications, ergo you cannot turn it off.
      All of their Help pages mention that ANY telemetry can be disabled through these options. However, the "New Tab" page itself has its own set of separate telemetry so it's already a rabbit hole.

      It turns out that despite what everyone is saying, I cannot get a conclusive result on whether the telemetry is truly disabled or not with the options from the settings.

      On 126 (Ubuntu Snap version), there are two options; "serpEventTelemetryEnabled" and "serpEventTelemetryCategorizationEnabled". The latter is indeed disabled but not the former.
      On Nightly 128 (Windows), only "serpEventTelemetryCategorizationEnabled" exists but it is NOT disabled by the telemetry settings. So I don't know what's going on but it doesn't seem good.

      What's worse is that some guys found out that this "SERP thing" seems to have made its way in the ESR 115.11.0esr but without any setting to disable it. So yeah I don't know.
      Don't have a nice day I guess.

      So what do I do now and what do I disable in the end? In the worst case scenario what browser do I use instead of Firefox?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Better start learning curl quickly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There are no downloadable binaries yet, as the project is still very unstable.
      Next?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh look: https://mozilla-services.github.io/remote-settings-permissions/

    main/content-relevance This is to support the "Interest-based Content Relevance Ranking and Personalization" project. See project proposal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F8yzO0QK-PFhm3YLymcx2IGGw08ZGer0z3pUXvLi1Vs/edit?usp=sharing 2024-03-07 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1884151

    Document and bug are locked down.

    main/search-categorization The collection will contain JSON files with hashed domains mapped to an array containing category indexes and scores 2023-08-28 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1850058

    Bug is locked down.

    I wonder if this means we will see a "Privacy Sandbox" aka more tracking like Chrome in Firefox soon?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit:
      https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/third_party/rust/relevancy/src

      Proposed API for the relevancy component (validation phase)

      The goal here is to allow us to validate that we can reliably detect user interests from
      history data, without spending too much time building the API out. There's some hand-waving
      towards how we would use this data to rank search results, but we don't need to come to a final
      decision on that yet.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's in nightly already!

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone tell the media or something I'm too lazy

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >126.0
    >have all telemetry disabled in firefox settings
    >check about:config
    >look up "telemetry"
    >the shit in OP's pic is indeed turned on
    it's so fricking over

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mandatory
    I sense a bravegay trying to promote their malware through lies.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It should be illegal for invasive options like these to be opted in by default and all new changes should prompt explicit YES/NO from users instead of being silently enabled.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick you mozilla
    >Rest assured, the way we gather these insights will always put user privacy first.
    then revert this or i will blow up mozilla offices with dynamite

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dude, I'm upset too, but tell the mods and FBI this was a joke or you'll be in serious trouble. We know you were joking, but they treat everything seriously like old boomers in a golf tournament

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Joke?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Joke?

        joke?

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wake up
    >literally no outrage whatsoever
    I suppose there's no stopping whatever Mozilla is doing. I realize that.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    esr + arkenfox

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Verification not required.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      byeah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      byeah

      >baby duck homosexuals didn't even read the changelogs
      Not covered by those settings (or any other) because it's technically not telemetry tehee, the full urls you visit are only collected for debug logging after all :^*~~*~~*~~*~~))

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/share-data-mozilla-help-improve-firefox
        their own blog about this very update links this
        >Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox. Here’s a step-by-step guide on how to adjust your settings. We also don’t collect category data when you use Private Browsing mode on Firefox.
        keyword: any

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >any technical or usage data
          Good thing this new not-telemetry is not considered to be either :^*~~
          >We also don't collect category data when you use Private Browsing
          Lol

          let isPrivate =
          wrappedChannel.loadInfo &&
          wrappedChannel.loadInfo.originAttributes.privateBrowsingId > 0;
          if (isPrivate) {
          provider += `-${SEARCH_TELEMETRY_PRIVATE_BROWSING_KEY_SUFFIX}`;
          }

          Services.telemetry.keyedScalarAdd(
          SEARCH_DATA_TRANSFERRED_SCALAR,
          provider,
          bytesTransferred
          );

          yo they are even collecting searches from private sessions lmaoooo

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >this new not-telemetry is not considered to be either
            source?

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >another firefox fud thread

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just wanted a simple browser - software to display websites. Not some spyware and propaganda tool Mozilla and Google made.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Firefox has always been spyware. This is not new

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mobile
      You never had any privacy.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to be honest i don't care if people get anonymized data about me and my browsing habits

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    didn't even know this, but my custom stylesheet stopped working and switches to waterfox.

    you'd think they would be more careful when sneaking in more surveillance.
    dumb fricks.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hero
    mozilla is evil and comparable to google and it's been known for years now

    btw anything that advertises itself as 'privacy friendly' is lying to you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      On the topic of FF, is there anyway to get the bookmarks that are suggested in the adress bar to organize by frequency or reverse date? I hate that it shows me a website that I barely use on top versus the one Im actually searching for on bottom

      >btw anything that advertises itself as 'privacy friendly' is lying to you
      Classic gaslighting

      Grsecurity is violating the copyright on the Linux Kernel by distributing a derivative work under terms other than the GPLv2 Only. Grsecurity is also violating the copyright on the linux Kernel by distributing a derivative work while attempting (successfully) to limit the rights granted by the linux copyright holders in the GPLv2 memorandum. Namely the right to distribute copies of derivative works of the Linux Kernel: which Grsecurity is. Grsecurity imposes a penalty (a negative covenant) on those who would redistribute grsecurity: a derivative work of the Linux kernel. Under US copyright Law: the copyright holder of the linux kernel has the right to control derivative works. The linux kernel copyright holder has decided to allow derivative works ONLY under the EXPRESS terms of the GPLv2 with NO OTHER terms added to the UNDERSTANDING between the PARTIES (this is NOT about adding terms "to the gpl").
      Grsecurity is a derivative work.
      >https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ14.pdf
      >Right to Prepare Derivative Works, Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to pre-pare, or to authorize someone else to create, an adaptation of that work. The owner of a copyright is generally the author or someone who has obtained the exclusive rights from the author. In any case where a copyrighted work is used without the permission of the copyright owner, copyright protection will not extend to any part of the work in which such mate-rial has been used unlawfully. The unauthorized adaptation of a work may constitute copyright infringement
      Richard Matthew Stallman today:
      >Pro telemetry in opensource/free software.
      >Pro-Grsecurity violation of GPL (silence).
      >Pro vaccine mandate.

      [...]
      has telemetry, you clearly have never mitm yourself, use iceweasel no binary blobs or just links

      >Stallman vaccine
      Qrd?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cucked and pushing the clotshot, as all ""freedom respecting"" lefties did

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Elaborate

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what's there to elaborate on? it's exactly as I said

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >user_pref("browser.search.serpEventTelemetryCategorization.enabled", false);
    It was already set to false on my end though.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Works on my machine!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >disables telemetry but leaves safe browsing enabled

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You have a point but that feature has saved me headaches couple of times.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Google Safe Browsing: on
      no need to report every site you visit to ((them)), just install Common Sense 2024 and call it a day

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think firefox already downloads the list of websites and ip address of malicious sites from their own system and use it to check for sites people visit. They use google only when those sites are not in their database. I'm not entirely sure how it works though. But I believe whatever they send is anonymized.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OHTTP
    what fricking kind of unholy dazzling technique is this

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This sure seems like a lot more then just recording a search category
    https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/SearchSERPTelemetry.sys.mjs#1

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >for debug logging only
      Silicon valley genocide can't come soon enough.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Plot twist, you are always being debugged.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So disable everything?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I should disable this too right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, Firefox Zero has a good list:
        https://pastebin.com/iMh3rxHi

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how do I run this?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a user.js, you either put it in your profile directory if you want to take *all* the settings, or if you just want some, then either paste it into your own user.js or do them one-by-one in the about:config.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you mean I simply put user.js in ~/ ?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah you put it in your profile directory, probably under .mozilla?

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've got everything enable disabled in the settings but "browser.search.serpEventTelemetry.enabled" was still enabled in my about:config.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >actually go check
    >this is all still opt-out and not at all mandatory
    wow its fricking nothing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's opt-out rather than opt-in
      Your parents must be so disappointed in you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      correction* they claim specific things are still opt-out while tangibly corelating this towards this new Telemetry. We actually do not know whether or not it is opt-out.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It should be disabled with
    browser.search.serpEventTelemetryCategorization.enabled

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >muh firefox
    cannot even allow javascript selectively per domain kek, uses double the memory compared to chromium
    it's just google funded "opposition" anyways
    ubo also works just fine in ug chromium btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chromium is removing MV2 next year.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well then I will just yt-dlp mpv and switch to le shill lion for 4chins probably
        ff is so shit and I won't let it anywhere near my machine

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You morons have been saying this for the last three years

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok google shill
      still not using any chromium based browsers btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >using chr*me
      >ever
      No, frick off, frick you, homosexual.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >can't read
        Typical firefox user

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WOLF CHADS STAY WINNING!

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry, 126.0 doesn't work on windows 7 so I don't care, still on 115

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Browser so bad it had to be updated 126 times
    lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The real crime is that it's gotten slower over time, not faster.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Did you know that cops, judges, and prosecutors are mortal?

    It's true.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So you're saying white men are mortal too.

    Good.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So how many thermonuclear devices have you hidden around your state?

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >category count:
    >porn
    >technology
    >piracy
    >IQfy
    Calculating profiling: moronic Pirate Technocoomer

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where's the outrage?
    >implying Firefox drones are capable of providing constructive criticism
    You're asking too much from them.
    These NPCs will blindly applaud these practices by claiming that ">le Google is worse", or tell you it's not a biggie because ">muh arkenfox user.js that I didn't even read" will "save" them
    Arguing with these fanatics is a complete waste of your time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      really we just need ungoogled firefox at this point. Ungoogled Chromium has been a godsend, and the only reason I stick with Firefox has been because it's the only browser with sane history settings that save everything.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mandatory
    OP is moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you can't just disable
      Not after 127 you can't

      that doesn't disable this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cucked by Mozilla again.

        Come home: https://brave.com/

        I'd actually be happy if Mozilla was using my history to build a search engine so they can drop Google, but this is gay.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >le shill lion
          No.
          Why do you want to use shill lion when you could use librewolf, waterfox, arkenfox or mullvad browser?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        LMAO
        Literally what's the point of Firefox now?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is fricked up

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you can't just disable
          Not after 127 you can't

          that doesn't disable this

          A I to understand you can't opt-out in Firefox 127?

          It says serpEventTelemetry will be disabled. However, I believe there is also serpEventTelemetryCategorization or whatever was talked about earlier in the thread. Perhaps they will only disable the pointless(?) one and keep Categorization which is what is available for most people and can be disabled. Still strange and I don't know the difference between those two.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A I to understand you can't opt-out in Firefox 127?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fixed an issue where all the user's selected options to disable telemetry were not being applied to the telemetry.
      >In this fix, the data will be collected and archived and the option will be polled whether it should be sent to our servers.
      >Trust us, we got it working THIS time.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    heh turns like the tables have turned

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fedora enables a lesser opt-out telemetry
    >"Fricking Red Hat and their horrible practices!"
    >Mozilla enables an invasibe opt-out telemetry
    >"Achktually, it's for development reasons, and you can opt-out whenever you want"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stop being disingenuous
      they are both bad if you don't like telemetry

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mozilla has more money to hire shills

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They'rel osing money
        >less than a million dollar company now
        Wow, it's fricking nothing
        This telemetry is probably to attempt to drum up investors and sell some data on the side to make up for the fact that, if this is right, they're basically going down the shitter.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >(In thousands)
          Hope it helps!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's even worse because it means the financial losses have been catastrophic.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > using Google sponsored browser
    You have no one to blame.
    Use librewolf if you care about privacy and telemetry.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    related to this but has anyone noticed the typical mkultra style gangstalking and tracking that used to be prevalent and using all telemetry and visible userdata is having trouble keeping up with anything relevant to push? its like since covid the system can't figure out what to use to seed schizophrenia and hide things
    all they seem to be manually pushing is fake alien stories
    just worth noting, since even Firefox is going to be trying to upload more data to cloudflare (their main collection source)

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i have an old all in one touch screen acer pc and firefox sucks streaming video to it.
    I switched to brave on it and turned off all the bullshit, and it works much better.
    I still use firefox on everything else, but i stream alot on this pc. Its on a stand next to the bed and i can just lie on my side and watch whatever. Mostly plex and tubi.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Firefox
    >TELEMETRY
    I don't get it. is this really news? have you tried using Firefox through a proxy? it pings a bunch of servers and send some info...

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >@param {string} url The url that was matched (for debug logging only).

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >create telemetry category for people posting Antisemitism who are named Chad in zip code 53382
    >claims to be completely anonymous and no user data will be identified
    Every time there's a new holocaust when a israelite stubs their toe we go through this again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When you say holocaust I think of a big enveloping fire. Now sure there were big all engulfing fires being stirred up by the nazis. But I think you're using the wrong term.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >muh telemetry
    >muh privacy
    Hot take: Only terrorists and pedophiles should be afraid of data collecting practices.
    And even then, I'm pretty sure you'll be fine as long as you don't upload your shit to Google's or Microsoft's cloud services.
    ~~*They*~~ already know your interests, browsing patterns and even the anime girl you fap to. Which is why obsessing this much over your browser's false sense of privacy is completely moronic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hot take: Only terrorists and pedophiles should be afraid of data collecting practices.

      YHWH allows child brides.
      FreeSoftware and Opensource used to be honest and about making things good for the user.

      Zoomer homosexual.

      We will not accept betrayals.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what is corruption
      >implying somehow magically it wouldn't be used for evil
      Hot take, people like you are shining example why authoritarists and totalitarians do not deserve human rights and human status.
      And another hot take, people like you will burn in hell and this is good thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shit take you're ruled by terrorist pedophiles who are actively buying this data to continue to rule you

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no one discussing the one true browser alternative in this thread
    ngmi

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      for me it's seamonkey

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the moon will not judge your wavering faith kindly

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when RMS opposed phone-home software.
    I do.

    Is the RMS we knew the same one there is now?
    Why did he betray us?

    In a recent podcast, Bruce Perens said that Debian required signing software commits since the 1980s (didn't exist then, but he was talking about opensource in general) with your key tied to your name: and he said that meant they could prosecute any programmer if they wanted. It was a hidden feature.

    So you work for these people for free. And they conspire to imprison you from the very beginning (1980s). (and in the specific case of Debian: early 1990s)

    Now we know.
    What should be the response?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is the RMS we knew the same one there is now?
      >Why did he betray us?
      the dude is literally on deaths door, clearly all the people behind him are calling the shots under his name
      huh, kinda like another guy I know in a position of power

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the alternative is using unfree software. you're just saying slaves should kill themselves, spoiler alert: many of them did, and no one cared

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >In a recent podcast, Bruce Perens said that Debian required signing software commits since the 1980s (didn't exist then, but he was talking about opensource in general) with your key tied to your name: and he said that meant they could prosecute any programmer if they wanted. It was a hidden feature.

    >So you work for these people for free. And they conspire to imprison you from the very beginning (1980s). (and in the specific case of Debian: early 1990s)

    12:34
    https://www.podbean.com/player-v2/?i=8cir2-15f5047&square=1
    https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/podcast/Bruce-Perens-on-software-in-a-Post-Open-world

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/download/65d4eakgf5ti72ut/04252024_ITOpsQuery_S1E5_BrucePerens_mixdown.mp3

    12:34 - 13:00

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Debian certificate signing parties were so we could prosecute free programmers/workers -- Bruce Perens, paraphrased

    https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/download/65d4eakgf5ti72ut/04252024_ITOpsQuery_S1E5_BrucePerens_mixdown.mp3

    12:34 - 13:00

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Create a browser for power users
    >Power users recommend and install the browsers to friends and family.
    >Browser introduces opt-out telemetry.
    >Power users disable telemetry while normies just keep clicking yes to anything in front of them.
    >Oh, it seems like most of our users have severe brain damage is time to nuke all the confusing features.
    >Welcome to the telemetry era or or as I've recently taken to calling it, moron-centered development.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think most of the old-guard powerusers simply became moronic. I've seen a lot of old-guard powerusers succumb to the vax rhetoric. They simply do not care anymore ever since they got vaxxed.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no profiling will be performed
    yeah, okay
    it's not like the cia tapped google's lines before and it's not like they do that with other companies too
    if a company collects data it can always be used to profile, not necessarily by the company itself and not even with their knowledge

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was CIA/NSA/GCHQ that also got into Google's data, which is why they started trying to encrypt lots of stuff later.
      >The NSA has secretly tapped into the private fiber-optic networks that connect Google's and Yahoo's worldwide data centers, allowing the spy agency to suck up "at will" metadata and content belonging to users of the companies' services, according to The Washington Post.

      >Under a program called MUSCULAR -- a joint project with British NSA counterpart the GCHQ -- the NSA takes advantage of overseas taps to intercept data flowing within Google's and Yahoo's geographically distributed data "clouds," where multiple copies of user data are stored unencrypted
      https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/nsa-taps-into-google-yahoo-clouds-can-collect-data-at-will-says-post/

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where's the outrage?
    Both of the remaining firefox users are very upset, I assure you

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2024 and midwits are still trying to chase after the myth of privacy on an internet connected device

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shill

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I use Firefox exclusively because of Sidebery.
      If a Chromium browser had its capabilities I would change to it in a heart beat.
      Privacy? Lol, I use Windows.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >but I don't have anything to hide, why do you?
    can I have your credit card numbers?
    >I...

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People that care about this would be running their own local DNS and would have disabled DoH as well as blackhole routing all the open plain / DoH / DoT resolvers. Despite what people were sold, any ISP can block DoH with zero effort.

    Those smart people can just add a file to Unbound to block most of the telemetry. If you find more just add it to the file.

    local-zone: "push.services.mozilla.com" always_nxdomain
    local-zone: "firefox-settings-attachments.cdn.mozilla.net" always_nxdomain
    local-zone: "firefox.settings.services.mozilla.com" always_nxdomain
    local-zone: "detectportal.firefox.com." always_nxdomain
    local-zone: "shavar.services.mozilla.com" always_nxdomain

    If I missed one, then add it to your firewall / router running Unbound and share with the class.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You missed a lot.
      And they pull shit like this:
      > telemetry-incoming.r53-2.services.mozilla.com
      > locprod2-elb-us-west-2.prod.mozaws.net
      balrog-aus5.r53-2.services.mozilla.com

      I blocked these ones specifically but they might as well have a different domain every day and I wouldn't know.. These have "moz" in the domain name but they don't have to..

      I don't want to play whack-a-mole with my browser, and I'm always at a disadvantage because they can just hardcode the IP address, or use DoH anyway.. And a single connection can send the entire telemetry data in a fraction of a second, so if I'm always behind these domain name restrictions, then it never matters.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Interesting. I do not see those in my query logs or my firewall logs. Maybe because I am on ESR? Guess I will see them soon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you care just run this fragile workaround instead of switching browsers
      No, frick that and frick you.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It really logs your urls now?

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use a Firefox account to sync my browser history and passwords between my phone and computers, who gives a shit.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me anons, isn't it the distros responsibility to make sure these are not enabled?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes, make sure to tell your distro jannies to get on this right away

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So I use firefox with everything disabled. Is there any reason I shouldn't keep using it? Does librewolf do anything else for me?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good luck trying to decipher a clear answer from the shit-flinging in this thread
      >firefox is totally compromised
      >NOOO its not because
      >YESS it is because

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh no no no sisters!

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it doesnt sound as bad as some people made it out to be, so thats good.
    it also says it can be opted out of, so that means a lot of what i was reading was mis-info
    it looks like they are rolling this out to use the data to improve firefox suggests feature......honestly not sure if i like the idea of firefox suggests, sounds like they are attempting to curate search results for users, steering them towards "credible content from sponsored, vetted partners and trusted organizations."
    doesnt sound like this feature could ever be abused or manipulated.......

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >* Listener that observes network activity, so that we can determine if a link
    >* from a search provider page was followed, and >if then if that link was an ad click or not.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought you could just turn this off from settings. It's the same telemetry as earlier but they're doing it differently or something

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wish we could use another webkit browser instead of only epiphany.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Query is categorized in broad categories, isn't tied to you, isn't sold
    What is there to be outrage'd about

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >isn't sold
      Yeah, just like this one of a kind special deal I have just for you on this cable-stayed suspension bridge over the East River into Manhattan.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let's be honest, people who are going to disable this are going to do it regardless of it being sold and same with the opposite. So they have nothing to gain from lying instead of just omitting the selling part, on the other hand if it gets found out they're lying then it'd be a massive blow to their reputation that's going to be broadcasted by every tech news site out there

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this new not-telemetry is not considered to be either
      source?

      >DONT BELIEVE YOUR LYING EYES GOYIM
      >IF MOZILLA DOESNT WRITE IT ITS NOT TRUE

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Eyes = unsubstantiated claims on IQfy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >literal source code hosted by mozilla showing they collect data from private browsing = unsubstantiated claims on IQfy
          You're not earning your pennies, shill.

          you found tests, source here:
          https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/SearchSERPTelemetry.sys.mjs#1

          let isPrivate =
          wrappedChannel.loadInfo &&
          wrappedChannel.loadInfo.originAttributes.privateBrowsingId > 0;
          if (isPrivate) {
          provider += `-${SEARCH_TELEMETRY_PRIVATE_BROWSING_KEY_SUFFIX}`;
          }

          Services.telemetry.keyedScalarAdd(
          SEARCH_DATA_TRANSFERRED_SCALAR,
          provider,
          bytesTransferred
          );

          yo they are even collecting searches from private sessions lmaoooo

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Where do they claim otherwise? It's like you're making up shit in your mind and then getting mad at it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Where do they claim otherwise?

            https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/share-data-mozilla-help-improve-firefox
            their own blog about this very update links this
            >Remember, you can always opt out of sending any technical or usage data to Firefox. Here’s a step-by-step guide on how to adjust your settings. We also don’t collect category data when you use Private Browsing mode on Firefox.
            keyword: any

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's joever for me....
    save yourselves while you still can

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    insider here; just wanna say that we are coming for you chuds :I

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what's the about:config key to easily disable this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Already removed for your safety, citizen:

      >you can't just disable
      Not after 127 you can't

      that doesn't disable this

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's 2024 and still no addon to change the unique networking ID in about:networking#networkid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is it used for? It sounds a bit like it's related to your network devices and possibly a hash of the MAC.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Purportedly only for VPN's. "Only". Seems more like a Mega-Cookie to me.

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT Pedophiles afraid Firefox is going to see the illegal shit they're doing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ITT: Brown shitskins who don't own a working toilet try to tell us why spying is a good thing

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is one of the reasons why I use ESR so I'm prepared in advanced for mozilla's moronation.

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unmozillaed Firefox when?

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