>fixes the FHS

>fixes the FHS
sane root directory
~] cd /
/] ls
Programs
Users
System
Data
Mount

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >globohomosexual linux
    no thanks

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >globohomosexual linux is an "alternative" linux distro that copies shit from apple because it has been proven that morons can cope with this fs structure

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ah yes, because the FHS is so sane and rational, and totally not filled with ad hocs ever since it's inception at cluck and bell labs in the 70s.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wow, great reasoning, you fricking Black person.
        1. the users you are promoting it for, don't care about structure, they only use the browser
        2. the users who are potentially going to care about this structure are already familiar with the more sane /usr /opt /media /lib /lib64 /proc /dev /tmp /usr /var filesystem with the revised approach to remove unwanted folders from the root directory.
        if you are targeting those distros who still use the 70s layout, then tough luck, homosexual, no distro post 2005 uses that, they have a revised version.

        programs are user programs, system is a set of preinstalled programs.

        >programs are user programs, system is a set of preinstalled programs.
        wtf does this mean? blobwars packaged by the distribution falls under preinstalled programs or user programs?
        where does cdda downloaded and compiled from github falls into? user programs?
        what does it install into when make install copied cdda-tiles into /usr and makes a link in /bin?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >he users who are potentially going to care about this structure are already familiar with the more sane /usr /opt /media /lib /lib64 /proc /dev /tmp /usr /var
          AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >wtf does this mean?
          i can ask you the same question. your schizo sperging means nothing to someone who still uses dos. whatever is installed from the floppy is a part of the system.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >2. the users who are potentially going to care about this structure are already familiar with the more sane /usr /opt /media /lib /lib64 /proc /dev /tmp /usr /var filesystem with the revised approach to remove unwanted folders from the root directory.
          This is the dumbest gorilla Black person nocoder trying-to-fit-in thing I've ever read.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >what does it install into when make install copied cdda-tiles into /usr and makes a link in /bin?
          nta but obviously you'd have to modify build scripts in order to accomodate the new fs structure, like that's not hard to figure out

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this is true but unfortunately its not actually of any consequence. the reason the fhs is a mess to this day is cos nobody actually cares.

        i care about everything under the $HOME directory, as for the rest of the world, whatever.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cluck and bell labs
        heh. Grand Theft Overflow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      peak dunning kruger moronation

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why did Linus have to copy such a moronic file structure?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          linus didn't, gnu did, because gnu is a clone of unix.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why did Linus have to copy such a moronic file structure?

            worse is better

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            worse is better

            Because Linus is an autistic freak that doesn't give a frick about user experience and just wants to play with his autistic toy. the Black person unironically thought Unix was good design. Stallman knew better but he also knew that most nerds liked Unix so he had to model GNU after it unfortunately. now every freetard thinks that Unix is actually good, like the good brainwashed cultists that they are.

            not linus, the problem is gnu.
            you can do whatever you want with your fs, that's what Android and GoboLinux does.

            [...]
            Linus had nothing to do with the fs. That was gnu.

            He didn't copy gnu, he copied Unix.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the file structure has nothing to do with the kernel, gnu is the reason the file structure is unix-like, it has nothing to do with linus or the kernel

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And what FHS would he have gone with independently? Unix

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >o-oh, w-well if he made gnu he would have-
            Nice backtrack. You don't know that and can't say anything about it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How is it a backtrack. His stated intention was to make a unix like OS.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No he didn't, he never had the intention of developing an operating system, he only wanted to make a kernel. If he did, please go ahead and point to a direct quote.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so what define the file structure, is it considered in the user space? I mean how do distributions make the file structure?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > is it considered in the user space?
            Yes.
            >how do distributions make the file structure?
            By changing variable paths that programs look at to find ex. libraries at compile time, envars, and placing them in differing location through their package scripts. There's more to it than that, but you can change the file structure to whatever you want in your own distribution.

            for i in 16 32 48 64 128; do
            install -Dvm644 browser/branding/${pkgname}/default$i.png
            "$pkgdir/usr/share/icons/hicolor/${i}x${i}/apps/$pkgname.png"
            done
            # install -Dvm644 browser/branding/librewolf/content/about-logo.png
            # "$pkgdir/usr/share/icons/hicolor/192x192/apps/$pkgname.png"
            install -Dvm644 ${srcdir}/default192x192.png
            "$pkgdir/usr/share/icons/hicolor/192x192/apps/$pkgname.png"

            # arch upstream provides a separate svg for this. we don't have that, so let's re-use 16.png
            install -Dvm644 browser/branding/${pkgname}/default16.png
            "$pkgdir/usr/share/icons/hicolor/symbolic/apps/$pkgname-symbolic.png"

            install -Dvm644 ../$pkgname.desktop
            "$pkgdir/usr/share/applications/$pkgname.desktop"

            # Install a wrapper to avoid confusion about binary path
            install -Dvm755 /dev/stdin "$pkgdir/usr/bin/$pkgname" <<END
            #!/bin/sh
            exec /usr/lib/$pkgname/librewolf "$@"
            END

            # Replace duplicate binary with wrapper
            # https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658850
            ln -srfv "$pkgdir/usr/bin/$pkgname" "$pkgdir/usr/lib/$pkgname/librewolf-bin"
            # Use system certificates
            local nssckbi="$pkgdir/usr/lib/$pkgname/libnssckbi.so"
            if [[ -e $nssckbi ]]; then
            ln -srfv "$pkgdir/usr/lib/libnssckbi.so" "$nssckbi"
            fi
            }

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            this is wrong smartass

            morons like you are the ones holding Linux back

            linux is holding linux back because it's legacy garbage unix trashware

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >this is wrong smartass
            File structures are not a kernel space concept, never have been, never will be. Saying otherwise is objectively wrong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the idea of kernel space is arbitrary
            the reason why it has unix-like file structure is because it's a unix clone you fricking ape

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the idea of kernel space is arbitrary
            Well, it's clear you're a complete buffoon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because Linus is an autistic freak that doesn't give a frick about user experience and just wants to play with his autistic toy. the Black person unironically thought Unix was good design. Stallman knew better but he also knew that most nerds liked Unix so he had to model GNU after it unfortunately. now every freetard thinks that Unix is actually good, like the good brainwashed cultists that they are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >implying that windows has a bettee design

            it's crystal clear that you never used windows for anything outside of porn browsing and playing pirated gamez
            >Verification not required.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I never said anything about Windows.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            outside of filesystems, are you actually saying that the Linux kernel is somehow better or more advanced than NT? if so nice projection in your comment.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Our filesystems are light years ahead

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NT is a superior kernel design

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Give one example of a module that NT provides which is better than a Linux equivalent.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            drivers not causing kernel crashes? lol

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Any driver crash on Windows will give you a BSOD and force a restart.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not true. Only happens for kernel mode drivers and most drivers are user mode or have only tiny parts in KM still.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Any kind of km exception will still cause a BSOD, if a user mode driver hangs you're going to get one.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            not anon, handling drivers in general is an pleasant experience on either kernels.
            Windows at least let's you install drivers without having to recompile/restart.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            unpleasant*

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Also false, you can load modules and not have to restart the system. It's dependent on how specific distributions handle the driver package.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yes, it's patchy and janky, and is obviously an after thought. the driver architecture on Linux is still inferior to windows. that's not really controversial, it doesn't mean that win32 on top of the NT kernel isn't shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The practical application of UM and KM drivers almost always results in UM being directly tied to KM. There is nothing about how NT handles drivers that makes it better than DRMM. XOF is doing work on providing full reset capability for DRM drivers as well. So if DRM drivers don't bring down the kernel, and devices can be fully reset, there's no practical difference there either.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes KM misbehavior is bad.
            No, UM driver hanging will not crash KM.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If a UM driver has a part in KM and it crashes it will cause a BSOD. The most common driver crashes on any system are audio and graphic related, which will both cause a BSOD. This fantasy world you live in where drivers are disconnected from KM doesn't exist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so, strictly better than Linux then. on Linux, ALL driver crashes cause kernel crashes. on windows, only some non user mode drivers do. I don't think Linux even has a concept of user mode drivers.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >ALL driver crashes cause kernel crashes
            False, a video driver crash will bring down the display server but not the kernel. That hasn't been a thing for years.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not linus, the problem is gnu.
          you can do whatever you want with your fs, that's what Android and GoboLinux does.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because Linus is an autistic freak that doesn't give a frick about user experience and just wants to play with his autistic toy. the Black person unironically thought Unix was good design. Stallman knew better but he also knew that most nerds liked Unix so he had to model GNU after it unfortunately. now every freetard thinks that Unix is actually good, like the good brainwashed cultists that they are.

          Linus had nothing to do with the fs. That was gnu.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like an okay idea but the distro itself is probably shit because all meme distris suck ass due to package availability in their repos

    [...]

    Stop shitting up the board Black person

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Programs
    >System
    How do you decide at what point a program becomes part of the system?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think system is like for devices, drivers and shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      programs are user programs, system is a set of preinstalled programs.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GoboLinux is too based for this IQfyay board.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only reason I’ve heard of it is because it’s in the nosystemd.org list

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The tragedy is that `ls` is the only thing they modified, all the regular /bin /lib /var are still there, just not displayed by ls.
    A moronic idea for moronic people like OP.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are just symlinks for compatibility

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How does this change the fact that the directories are literally there on the disk, just hidden?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ls /*/
    Programs/Data
    Users/Programs
    Users/Data
    Users/Mount
    System/Programs
    System/Users
    System/Data
    System/Data/Programs
    Data/Programs
    Data/Users
    Data/System
    Mount/Programs
    Mount/Programs/Data
    Mount/Users

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >lying for absolutely no reason

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, bump.

    It would be huge for the ecosystem for gobo hierarchy to be adopted.. doesn't even have to have the upper case.

    Sanely dealing away with package mangers would be insanely good.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >uppercase letters
    ngmi

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NixOS has takes its packages and lumps them under /something/has-program-version/ then the root for that program, with bin, etc, usr... kind of like Gobo.

    I think someone could mix both, using nix package management with gobo fhs. I think that would be nice.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >/something/hash-program-version

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Take Nix, Gobo and AppImage and you got your self a modern FOSS Mac like experience.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >not using standard unix folder structure
    >directory names have first letter capitalized
    I hate this shit so fricking much

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If only it worked. I installed it on a virtual machine earlier today and there are no recipes built in nor does the Compile command work since it isn't connected to any repos.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i installed gobo once and I could not for the life of me find how to actually install anything. Am I meant to just untar things myself into the /Programs directory? That's easy, I just can't find any documentation on what was *intended*

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Best idea ever but Linux users are too moronic to comprehend it, as is evident by the replies to this thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the implementation is moronic, thats the problem

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is wrong with the way programs are stored in ordinary Linux distributions?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you can't easily copy and paste (with your mouse and keyboard) programs and put them in another machine offline because of the moronic Unix way of deploying programs all over the place. gobo is one step forwards to this.
      >just learn some command to reverse pack preinstalled programs into a deb
      no thank you, I value my time

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    using capitals in linux folders is idiotic,
    also those names are too long
    I would do it like
    /usr
    /bin
    /etc
    /mnt
    /opt

    there, much shorter and easier to type, also no need to press Shift for the first letter to be capitalized.

    oh wait.... It was already like that....

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      /prg
      /usr
      /sys
      /dat
      /mnt

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        /prog
        /user
        /yeoldesystemme
        /data
        /mount

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >using capitals in linux folders is idiotic,
      only for morons and buttholes that still use CLI to navigate their OS in current year

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Still faster than using a graphical interface, windows gay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no, you're just moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        literally get the frick out of IQfy and right into reddit you pretentious fricking low iq Black person

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          morons like you are the ones holding Linux back

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            unix was this since forever,
            no homosexual can come and change everything because he cannot deal with the situation. why don't go and dilate some more I'd say.

            just do the world a favor and just end it 😉

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            lol
            >Linux is MY toy! only I get to have a say on how Linux should be
            get another hobby incel homosexual

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            have fun being a miserable c**t that everyone hates for the rest of your life 😉

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yes im the one being the miserable c**t, and totally not the moron that thinks hes "gatekeeping" something good. go home and take your meds you delusional dumbass. I petty you, honestly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >just do the world a favor and just end it 😉
            Nobody has to end Unix. It's already dead.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Cange

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >sane root directory
      >implying that using System and Programs instead of /sbin or /bin and /usr/bin is better

      this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        CLI gays and Unixtards need not apply.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          doing anything in powershell or cmd without path variables is a massive pain in the ass precisely because of the moronic file structure

          also windows has localized string resources (imagine if /proc/cpuinfo was named like Procesador/Información de la CPU or Prozessor/CPU-Informationen depending on the language of the system)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >also windows has localized string resources (imagine if /proc/cpuinfo was named like Procesador/Información de la CPU or Prozessor/CPU-Informationen depending on the language of the system)
            That's normal and shouldn't affect anything if your program is designed right.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            get with the times and stop using the turdmenal, also this is sort of solved since underneath it's the same file structure, so you can still type cd /user/bin whatever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            */usr/bin

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >also no need to press Shift for the first letter to be capitalized
      just use a system that can do case independent folder and file names

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no thanks, i'm sticking with arch

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, Linux has the Program Files folder now?

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its MacOS for autistes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      MacOS for autistic schizophrenics, that's what Linux has always been about.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    /system
    /users
    /programs
    /drives or storage
    /config
    /debug

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick is /debug for?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Crash logs and shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        core dumps and logs
        really useful

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          why not /var/cores instead

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've never had as many driver-related crashes with Linux as I have with Windows. Every new shitware driver version from Nvidia or AMD has a high probability of causing random BSODs. Doesn't happen on Linux.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, begs the question why you even have drivers as conceptually UM if they're inherently tied to KM in the majority of practical applications. Just make it KM and don't muddy up the implementation details for people that actually have to work with drivers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there are an absolute shit ton of drivers that are not tied to KM. not in any meaningful way at least. Linux does not even provide for that possibility.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > shit ton of drivers that are not tied to KM
        In my experience the only driver crash which didn't result in a BSOD on my Windows system back when I still used 7, prior to SP1, was the HID for my shitty mouse. That wouldn't have crashed Linux either. This fantasy world where UM drivers don't bring down KM doesn't exist.
        >Linux does not even provide for that possibility.
        If there's no practical difference between having UM and KM separation and what DRM is capable of, it doesn't matter. All you're doing is muddying implementation detail for people that have to work with drivers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          can you give me an example where it would muddy the waters? I can't think of one, but I'm curious

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't take a genius to figure out why having an abstraction between the kernel and driver makes things more complicated. If you're accessing KM in the majority of practical applications you might as well just use KM for everything, instead of having two separate layers.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, it amazes me that some aspects of Windows, like the WDM audio layer, still do stupid shit like necessitating a large buffer size that enforces egregious audio latency. You try to decrease the size of the buffer even with a good DAC? Enjoy your billion cross runs. You're forced into using a 3rd party ASIO driver just for kind of professional audio application. Meanwhile, we get direct access to ALSA which will give low buffers out the gate, while Pipewire mogs the WDM audio layer in nearly every way. And what about filesystems? NTFS is slow, fragments heavily and is STILL the standard on any consumer device. Meanwhile ReFS was outdated on release and supports few of the features btrfs and zfs do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      NTFS is the only usable and portable file system on Linux, just like how WINE is the only stable ABI on Linux.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ntfs-3g is portable, NTFS is not.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://github.com/maharmstone/btrfs
        : ^ )

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >NTFS is the only usable and portable file system on Linux
        NTFS isn't even the most portable file system on Windows.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yet absolutely no one uses Linux for serious audio prod.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I produced the soundtrack for a small indie game using Linux and Reaper. It's also very common for any kind of audio broadcasting server to use Linux and JACK, as well any kind of scientific application that handles real-time processing to do the same, or use Mac.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >capital letters in root
    >useless bullshit
    >"sane"
    In no way is this a sane idea.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >capital letters
    fricking cringe
    Fricking with the FHS is stupid and dumb, but if they were going to do it:
    >/programs
    >/users/ (why bother renaming this at all, just leave it at /home/)
    >/system/usr/
    >/system/sbin
    >/system/boot
    >/system/etc
    >/system/dev
    >/system/proc
    >/mount/
    >/data, but user data belongs in /home/$USER/ (This is avoidable by putting /home/ on a big enough volume, mine is 10 TB)
    Then it's alright.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The reality is Linux just gets better in every aspect year over year. Windows gets worse year over year. Microsoft was way ahead of the industry in the 2000s but they've been losing ground ever since. It's like Microsoft just doesn't give a shit about the technical aspects of their OS anymore.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's like Microsoft just doesn't give a shit about the technical aspects of their OS anymore.
      they don't. why would they? they've expanded their business beyond selling and shilling their OS and couldn't care much for Windows.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Great structure, now you just need an AUR equivalent and a massive package repository.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why the frick did you quote me?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because when you gave into the abyss, the abyss gazes back,

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You get pissed of at someone for multi-quoting and then decide to quote totally unrelated people yourself?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm nta, I'm jsut saying that he got so pissed at the mass replier that he mass replied himself.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are they back again?

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Already thought of using but I got a bit scared of having software compatibility issues

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