Gnome probably has at least 75% of Linux DE marketshare. It sure is polished, but it's very simple.

Gnome probably has at least 75% of Linux DE marketshare. It sure is polished, but it's very simple.

The fact that most distros default releases are Gnome, what does that tell us about the Linux community in general? Are they trying to push simplicity and user friendliness?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it means gnome just werks and most people dont want to tinker with stupid bullshit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The only distro people use is Ubuntu and they tinker it for you. It objectively doesn't "just work" by default

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gnome just werks
      Then why do so many distributions have to ship it with third-party extensions? lmao

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The fact that most distros default releases are Gnome, what does that tell us about the Linux community in general?
    that they're idiots

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hope everyone stupid enough to tolerate that "software" switches to Windows.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's 1/3 Gnome, KDE and others each

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's not a single popular Linux distribution that ships KrashDE by default, all of them ship GNOME or a DE that depends on GTK. To install KrashDE you have to be a tinkertroony and do it yourself manually.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And yet all independent surveys show this. https://eylenburg.github.io/de_comparison.htm see the bottom of the big b table. Gnome is so shit it would have a 10% market share maximum if it wasn't default

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >gamingonlinux
          >arch installations
          So what you're telling me is obese manchildren prefer KDE?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >survery sources: a gayming website and tinkertroony distro

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        virtually every popular linux distro has a plasma iso/option. what world are you living in

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >gnome just werks
          Then why do so many distributions have to ship it with third-party extensions? lmao

          This so much. If distro developers pulled their heads out of their asses and switched defaults to kde plasma, gnome would probably die off within a few months tops.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You said it yourself, it's an option and not a default. For Fedora & Ubuntu you have to go out of your way specifically looking for it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        steamos is quite popular

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You made this thread yesterday and it was a trash thread then too

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ubuntu's GNOME Shell is heavily modified and Mint uses Cinnamon. The only "vanilla" GNOME distros people actually use are RHEL and Fedora.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Ubuntu's GNOME Shell is heavily modified
      It ain't that heavy, bruz

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I actually prefer having a simple DE at the start then gradually add extensions on top of it instead of other way around.

    My only gripes is that it's hard to use on rolling release distro where they routinely break extensions every 6 months, hate losing GSConnect for several weeks twice a year.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >more kde crash memes
    i legit have never had kde crash on me at all, been using the different variations for years, hell i even had the old kde linux mint spin. maybe its just my hardware

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Please understand, this is all they have to mock KDE. Removing the krash meme would be like removing the crutches from a kid with a broken leg. We need to be brotherly here in the Linux community.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I use Gnome because I love feet
    Simple as

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Little gnome feet?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    APOLOGIZE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      sorry ebasedi, the king of gnomes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no, there is the king of gnomes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kneeling out of respect.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Would be nice of gnome had features
    Sadly it doesn't.
    Meanwhile on KDE it's an endless talk of new features and polishing: https://pointieststick.com/
    Oh and everybody is a tinkerer if they use the computer long enough.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >standing next to Gnome
      Is that why Libreoffice is so bad?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they make shit look like plastic? KDE and it's meta-futuristic look and feel is top notch.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    XFCE user here
    should I install KDE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no. stay on the comfy mouse that doesn't krash

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I prefer both but for different uses. Main desktop/gaming is KDE but almost every VM I run is xfce or MATE.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If I wanted KDE-like UI I would have installed Windows

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Was a MATE chad before they seemed to stabilize around qt5.2x, then I got with the times and switched to KDE. She's been breddy good to me so far.

      >If I wanted a Xerox like UI I'd install Windows
      ftfy

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Highly doubt. I manage around 300 linux desktop users at a research facility for work. We track what DE they use (we give them a wide variety of choices) and GNOME is something like 15%.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what %age is xfce
      I know it accounts for ~14% of all *buntu installs so I wonder if numbers are consistent

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        IQfy is about 45/45 XFCE/KDE with 5% vocal gnomie morons and 5% niche users

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where do you take those numbers from? is there somewhere where you can see the actual numbers? I've only found polls in sites like linuxquestions and reddit and every time kde was on top.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I believe debian's popularity contest is reliable.
      https://popcon.debian.org/by_inst
      >gnome-session: 64463
      >kde-plasma-desktop 23607

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm trying to take some numbers from https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/packages

        You can install kde using plasma-desktop or plasma-meta (you could also do it manually but I hope the number of people doing this is low enough as to not skew the data too much ignoring it).

        Plasma-desktop: 32.3%
        Plasma-meta: 14.49%

        I'm not sure which ones I should use for gnome as you can end with some gnome packages anyway cause of apps dependencies even if you don't use gnome; the one you used, gnome-session, is 22%.

        Gnome-session: 22%

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Debian's survey is in the installer itself, whereas arch loonix's one requires the users to install "pkgstats" package by themselves, and this package isn't mentioned anywhere so it's hard for users to find it.
          Also plasma-meta always fetches plasma-desktop, so you should count the later only.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm trying to take some numbers from https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/packages

        You can install kde using plasma-desktop or plasma-meta (you could also do it manually but I hope the number of people doing this is low enough as to not skew the data too much ignoring it).

        Plasma-desktop: 32.3%
        Plasma-meta: 14.49%

        I'm not sure which ones I should use for gnome as you can end with some gnome packages anyway cause of apps dependencies even if you don't use gnome; the one you used, gnome-session, is 22%.

        Gnome-session: 22%

        GNOME is probably more popular, but this is not proof that its shitbrained nofeatures design is good since most users will be installing third-party extensions or using distros that ship them out of the box (Ubuntu, Pop_OS, Zorin, Manjaro, Nobara, etc)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          When GNOME plus extensions still beats other DEs, you know the competition must be pretty bad. Or GNOME must be pretty good.

          It just needs to fix its dynamic multi-monitor support.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I hope the irony of using popularity as a metric for good on Lunix desktop isn't lost in you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            rofl you're confusing me with the guy I quoted. I meant that GNOME just works better overall

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah because 75% of 1% is still "nobody uses this"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I've never used gnome without extensions since gnome 3 happened, and i'm not using it anymore there was a point when extensions broke too often and for too long and you had to fight on bugzilla even for regressions to be acknowledged.

          For a long time after that I tried everything but kde cause of the krashes meme and about a year ago (5.27.x) I finally tested it and found it amazing (on x11), sadly plasma6 failed to be that amazing, I'll wait a couple months and check again cause I think it still needs more polishing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I've never used gnome without extensions since gnome 3 happened

            if you know how to use the hotkeys you don't need extensions

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, cause hotkeys would have brought the system tray back, or any of the bazillion removed features...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >gnome has no system tray meme

            isn't this thing the system tray? what's the difference?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can't interact with background applications, only close them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            background applications don't even show there if they are not using gnome's desktop portal or some shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know how it's now as I've stopped using gnome long ago but there was no application tray icons anymore (there was an extension for it)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They added a nested background apps menu in GNOME 44, which lets you close background apps but not interact with them like with any functional system tray. True GNOME design.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            why is that even necessary?
            <
            Doesn't that bar on the bottom tell you what apps are running in the background?

            idiots don't know how to use gnome

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know, does it? Or is it only for apps with visible windows?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >idiots don't know how to use gnome
            It's gnome changing how things work so many times that some of the users got tired of having his workflow disrupted for no actual benefit that decided to stop using it.

            Tray icons were a gnome feature till they decided to remove it with no proper alternative.

            I bet the workflow is more stable now that there's almost nothing else they can remove but when they went from a feature rich desktop to what it's now it was a fricking nightmare to use.

            So, yes I do know how to use gnome but I still prefer gnome 2.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i've been using gnome since 2017 and have noticed no significant changes that made me want to stop using gnome

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            cause of this

            Oh, I see why do you like the current gnome, you haven't used gnome when it still had features.

            You haven't used gnome long enough, most of the features were already removed on 2017.

            I started using gnome in 2002 up to maybe 2016 with a ton of extensions the last few years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you interact with them by pressing the windows key, genius

            >So there was no tray icons for... ~5 years?
            because they weren't needed. they are unnecessary
            i've been using gnome since 2017 during a time when people hated it more than they do now

            2017 gnome is still usable in 2024 if you use appimages

            We are talking about background apps (apps without any windows), not apps with windows in the background. Are you sure this overview has those? Why would they need to add a background apps menu if it does? Not gonna spin up a VM just to test this shit tbh.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            all the apps listed here have windows
            >amberol(i am assuming this is a multimedia player based on the icon)
            >ticktick

            They added a nested background apps menu in GNOME 44, which lets you close background apps but not interact with them like with any functional system tray. True GNOME design.

            i have never used an app that doesn't have a window so a feature that has background app icons is unnecessary for me

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You are replying to a troll.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So there was no tray icons for... ~5 years? and now there's a crippled version of them, is still amazing that they have added a feature, unless they have done it to break 999 standards while doing it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >So there was no tray icons for... ~5 years?
            because they weren't needed. they are unnecessary
            i've been using gnome since 2017 during a time when people hated it more than they do now

            2017 gnome is still usable in 2024 if you use appimages

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, I see why do you like the current gnome, you haven't used gnome when it still had features.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you interact with them by pressing the windows key, genius

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    test

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i dont care im using sway on waytroon and I'm happy

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have to subject myself to use GNOME because of my setup and it's just not that difficult to adapt to.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I cannot wait for COSMIC to kill GNOME and put ebussi out of a job

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I regret doing this on Windows, it makes files unsearchable on IQfy archives because you fricked up the checksum
      Just use the filename

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      just use clip and a vector db like a sane person living in the 21th century.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gnome extensions are new users who came over from windows

    people who know how to use gnome don't need extensions

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      gnome extensions are for new users*

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what does that tell us about the Linux community in general
    It's psychologically paralyzed, demoralized and sees no way out. Microsoft won.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ubuntu has the highest Linux desktop market share actually, and Ubuntu adds a number of add-ons that make it closer to Windows in terms of usability than to stock Gnome
    I honestly think default Gnome is probably the least used DE there is. There's no stats but never have I ever seen anyone use Gnome the way it's intended to be used, that is with no minimax buttons, no taskbar, no tray icons...

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand how people can put up with this giant-icon, giant-button mobile-style shit on a desktop. I really don't.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >giant icon

      they are about big as icons on a windows desktop. what the hell are you yapping about?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        about as big as*

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If the current version of Windows is like that, my statement applies to it too.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          desktop icons have always been that size wtf

          gnome's icons are about the same size as these
          if not smaller

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            why are you comparing it to windows 98 in tiny ant 4:3 resolution?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            here's what a modern windows looks like since you clearly forgot

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >png
            >transparent desktop
            X to doubt

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            here's your wallpaper bro

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I use GNOME but I don't understand why footgays act like everyone should force themselves to adapt to it. When they add a feature that should probably have been there for a while, they also act like it's great, but before it existed there were always excuses as for it "not being needed at all". GNOME benefits from extensions, some of which aren't even there to mimic Windows features or make a desktop more Windows-like, but some of these people are cultist to the point at which they actually hate a feature that's there and still gets included with every release. There are convenient extensions but oh no, too much convenience, let me take 5 steps instead of 3 please, I can't live without having to use only one input method instead of having 3 available for this particular function. It's moronic. Get your head out of your ass with your "desktop paradigm" bullshit already, no desktop is perfect.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer kde feature wise, gnome looks nicer.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mainstream distros are heavily influenced by decisions made in the RHEL / Fedora ecosystem. That's basically all it comes down to. The Foot embodies 3/4 primary flaws in computing today: Decreased user choice, decreased concern for efficient resource utilization, and an obsession with rolling out frequent updates and design changes at the expense of core functionality. The GNOME Foundation is second only to enormous globohomosexual entities like Microsoft and Google in how little it gives a shit about its user base. Hell, Apple has more respect for established design patterns and user feedback than the Foot people do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I'd say even google is better at user friendliness than gnome (mass data harvesting aside)

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here is my gnome bros

    [...]

    I themed it to look like macOS.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can GNOME do 1.5 scaling properly yet or is KDE still better?

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >probably has
    kys

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gnome was an attempt by Microsoft to sabotage Linux by making it the main alternative and slow rolling or never updating and fixing issues.

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