GUIX and HURD will be the greatest revolution in FOSS

Are you ready for the GNU GUIX System and the revolution that it will usher?

>GUIX package manager building up one of the greatest cookbook repositories on Earth
>GUIX operating system running on linux-libre kernel, soon moving to HURD kernel and ditching Linus' corporate bordello ecosystem altogether
>GNU Shephard init system, to replace Systemd for good
GUIX is basically a Libre NixOS on steroids. Add in the HURD kernel and it looks like they will shake things up real good.

As for me, I am running GUIX System on a VM and learning as much as I can before I make the switch. Learning Guile and shit.

It's gonna be a revolution frens, the GNU has horns and is fighting back.

It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14

Black Rifle Cuck Company, Conservative Humor Shirt $21.68

It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    HURD is never happening, there might be some hope in HyperbolaBSD though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dear anon, I have been waiting for years now. I even got forced to move pasteurs and will probably forget about HyperbolaBSD before it is released. I will tell stories to my great great grandkids about the rumors of HyperbolaBSD (AI will emulate me).
      Please saar, I NEED IT NOW. Do you have any idea when it might be released? I find no roadmap with a beta release or anything.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Add in the HURD kernel and it looks like they will shake things up real good.
    KEK

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Will existing GNU/Linux apps be able to run on Hurd or will they have to be ported over?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are being developed with HURD compatibility in mind, so they should be able to. Most of them anyway.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why can't hurd be distinct of poorly mach kernel frankenstein?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Libre NixOS on steroids
    By Libre I assume you mean 'no drivers'? I couldn't get GUIX to run properly on my system due to missing wifi, bluetooth and gpu drivers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah you need to use the 'non-guix' non-libre kernels and drivers. Try looking at crafting interpreters site.

      Pragmatism is available in GNULand but they don't like showing it off by default.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >building up one of the greatest repositories on Earth

    Isn't this thing unable to package even the most basic things, like Firefox, because it worships GNU FSDG?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Shilling it exclusively on IQfy? Nope
    nixos userbase has specifically skyrocketed though because it's also being used by Linux YouTubers and podcasters. the guy who made the nix language and package manager has been keeping track of the traffic to the binary cache and it's shot straight up on a graph since 2020

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nixos userbase has specifically skyrocketed
      you have zero proof of this besides you claiming it is. let's face it, you post in all the nix threads, you're one of the shills

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you have zero proof of this besides you claiming it is.
        And repo metrics, like how many git repos on GitHub have .nix files over time. and like mentioned previously, metrics the binary cache. and the amount of content being made for it on sites like youtube. It's pretty easy to get a good idea of how much the nix ecosystem is being adopted over time without even needing to introduce telemetry.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >11k stars
          WHOA DUDE MASSIVE PROJECT
          >initial release: 2003
          what a frick joke

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty good for just the package manager, it's also broken up with the nixpkgs repo which is a massive monorepo that defines all 80k packages that has another 16k stars. The discourse also does yearly surveys and of the number of respondents, which grows every year, it seems to increase at about 30% every year since 2020

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nix shill can't stop talking up a dead project
            >copemaxxing
            lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Dead project
            >Hasn't refuted anything I said about how much it's growing
            Nix and guix are the best linux way to manage packages and they make for the best linux distros. Once you understand them you can't go back to a normal distro.
            Even bsd is porting nix to it with nixbsd, software you may be using in enterprise may have had a nix package manager touch a component of the software you use now, especially considering that docker is now using it internally in their company. All of this wasn't happening 6 years ago, but is now. But no just call the people who speak positively of it a shill forever and maybe it will go away.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >more copemaxxing
            sad

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Keeps replying,
            >Still can't refute a thing I say
            The only one overdosing on copium is (you)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            stfu stop giving the tard attention. I understand the frustration trying to reason with a pigeon but you have supplied proof and obviously Nix isn't dying, but growing. It's not the one who says the last insult or has the last word that wins an argument/debate. You are feeding a troll. Stop it. Get some help

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >HURD
    No firmware blobs, no GPU drivers, simple as, freetard.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    trvthnvke
    guix is the only glowBlack person-free distro
    https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2023/the-full-source-bootstrap-building-from-source-all-the-way-down/
    https://simon.tournier.info/posts/2023-10-01-bootstrapping.html

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >same nixos schizo spamming non stop copemaxxing night after night
    a pedophile

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >is replying to me without giving me a (you)
      >now just results to calling others schizos and pedos when he was called out for being wrong
      You can just admit you were wrong on the internet. It's fine.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nixos schizo can't stop posting about his dead project
    >must attempt to have the last word
    >just can't stop no matter what
    >fragile ego
    sad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like you're describing yourself there

      >building up one of the greatest repositories on Earth

      Isn't this thing unable to package even the most basic things, like Firefox, because it worships GNU FSDG?

      >Isn't this thing unable to package even the most basic things
      Guix you can package just about anything. The official repos will only have software compatible with the free system distribution guidelines, but it's a source based package manager, and you can define any package if you have the source, including Firefox. Its also not the hardest thing in the world to set up your own binary caches

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When is there gonna be a hardware manufacturer making foss drivers and firmware already? I'd kill to have every component of my PC deblobbed

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Call me when they have the equivalent of gentoo and I'll look into it

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Average guix package is outdated by more years than average debian package and that's if guix has the package at all.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hurd
    Lmfao

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >linux kernel is bloat
    >gnu coreutils are bloat
    will HURD change any of this? Guix looks really nice and I like immutability but I want something slim, which is why I use OpenBSD at the moment. Ignoring drivers and compatibility, is the structure of HURD superior?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's just a nother HURDle

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, Hurd is a microkernel. Microkernels are designed to be smaller and more modular than monolithic kernels. Also, Hurd has been using the NetBSD's rump kernel lately.
      https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/hurd/rump/

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        so why aren't more suckless autists working on it??

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This. We need to combine Suckless autists with the Lisp autists to unleash nuclear terror on proprietary glow-ware.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They endorse Scheme, at least.
            >Scheme
            http://harmless.cat-v.org/software/

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    which one of you made this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      (You)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      would

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >GUIX is basically a Libre NixOS
    Fake and gay. If you'd just used NixOS and GUIX you would know that. They're different. GUIX isn't reproducible like NixOS. The only similarity between GUIX and NixOS is the declarative system.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought GUIX could be more reproducible? Something about bootstrapping?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >GUIX isn't reproducible like NixOS
      It's more complicated, but they're pretty similar
      Guix has reproducibility like nix, it's just not as easy as nix with flakes. They target different userbases. Nix tends to have more industry working with it, and so it tends to serve industry needs more. While guix tends to have more academics working with it, and it serves academic applications better, like in HPC, scientific compute, etc.
      When that arch dev made that click bait blog post about "nix not being truly reproducible" he was talking about reproducible builds the same way the academics tend to focus on it. Guix tends to focus on this too and has some nice tools for it like guix challenge. But setting up a system the same way it was 5 years ago or how a friend has their computer set up, while making it the most predictable, is easiest on nixOS.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guix is nice and I plan to switch to it, but I doubt HURD is happening outside of a VM toy anytime soon (or like at all).

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like GNUIX and GNU Guile.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >GUIX is basically a Libre NixOS on steroids.
    If by "on steroids" you mean trying to gain an upper hand and failing by taking the wrong approach, and ending up hurting itself, sure. Linux-libre is not an acceptable default, and the GNU FSDG is prescriptive garbage. Your amd64 processor has proprietary microcode in it, with or without Linux-libre, but with the regular version it has the newer microcode without the bugs in it. People cannot install GNU Guix on almost any machine worth using due to this.
    >buh just use nongeeks
    Yeah so I run guix time-machine -C channels.scm -- ... to just install a working OS. Of course if you're part of 80% of desktop users that use an NVIDIA graphics card you'll never use Guix, even with nonguix, because they hard link to mesa instead of libglvnd. You can try to graft the binaries and it sort of works, never with PRIME. It's freedom but they actively push away people that don't have a choice. Say based or whatever all you want, I hate that shit too, but smaller userbase is less contributors and less development while Nix/NixOS rockets ahead.

    It's not the biggest thing, still. If you live with that cope you will still find out that nixpkgs modules are architecturally superior to "give me a list of shepherd services". Nix language sucks and Scheme is better. Sadly, the entire Guix project is shackled down by GNU until they learn pragmatism.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hard link to mesa instead of libglnvd
      actual cancer for the system, I wish there was a way to replace mesa on all inputs with it. I think there is, but you'll have to use a with-input build option and compile from source every time instead of a with-graft since I don't think libglnvd is a drop in for mesa.

      still love guix, just wish it had a debian-like approach that segregated free and non-free. perhaps a downstream could make it good and contribute to freedomizing upstream.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >just wish it had a debian-like approach that segregated free and non-free
        This is the right way. I think Gentoo does it better than anyone else where you select what licence(s) to accept. The default is "-* @FREE" meaning deselect everything then add the set (@) of free software licences. You can change the global setting, or accept them per-package.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's truly unfortunate

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i was gonna ask what the real cons in practice are compared to nixos, but looks like you already got to it. about mesa-- is nvk a promising path forward for nvidia cards with guix?

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Suika is cute, but for me it is OpenBSD.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kind reminder the HURD is dead. It never managed to move past the Mach "microkernel", and it has deep architectural flaws as documented in the HURD critique paper.
    Look elsewhere. Here's some ideas:
    - Managarm
    - Genode
    - LionsOS
    - HelenOS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      anyone know much on these? Which one looks the most promising.

      On an unrelated note, would a "unix-like" operating system even be the optimal path? Why aren't we trying something something like Plan9/9Front or Inferno?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >On an unrelated note, would a "unix-like" operating system even be the optimal path
        Clever Anon. You've started to think for yourself.
        Many haven't realized UNIX isn't the endgame, but rather, a design from the late 60s that we have dragged this far.
        From that list, Genode is most advanced architecture-wise.
        Note that they publish an updated version of the documentation book every year by the end of May, so once they do it'll be a good time to check it out.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >NixOS on steroids
    NixOS is already on steroids: estradiol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking kek. I use Guix specifically because NixOS is full of troons.

      >GUIX is basically a Libre NixOS
      Fake and gay. If you'd just used NixOS and GUIX you would know that. They're different. GUIX isn't reproducible like NixOS. The only similarity between GUIX and NixOS is the declarative system.

      You have that exactly backwards: Guix is reproducible, NixOS is not.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >starts with the letter G
    I'm good thanks

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If only somebody tried to warn us about the dangers of proprietary software and "Trusted" computing then perhaps this dark future could be averted.

  26. 2 months ago
    I think .17hmr is really cool

    I know nothing about guix because it's too complicated for me to bother with.
    The Hurd kernerl is a really cool concept. There needs to be competition.
    Gnu Shepard is the coolest thing here. Is there a way I could donate money specifically to Gnu Shepard? Frick systemd.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Donate to the FSF
      https://www.fsf.org/working-together/fund

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >GUIX
    Outdated piece of shit

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wanted to switch to this but ultimately all the packages i really want are community maintained... it's silly you have to enable a community repo just to make the system usable.
    i like that it offers more customizability than gentoo but i think i'll have to stick with the latter.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really like guix but it can't do everything Nix flakes can, once it does I will switch

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *