Half of Greeks have light hair

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>A study from 2013 for prediction of hair and eye colour from DNA of the Greek people showed that the self-reported phenotype frequencies according to hair and eye colour categories was as follows: 119 individuals – hair colour, 11 blond, 45 dark blond/light brown, 49 dark brown, 3 brown red/auburn and 11 had black hair

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dye jobs like the one in your pic are popular in Greek women so the number walking around with lighter looking hair is a lot higher, but among men these numbers don't sound too far off.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it's true.

      Even if you believe her hair is dyed, her eyes are literally blue.

      The delusion that modern Greeks are pure browns/non-European is pushed by spiteful mutant individuals who are obvious Afro-Arab-Turkic rape babies that don't look like their fellow Greeks.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is a Slavic admixture.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No it isn't, there is no Slavic DNA in modern Greek peoples.

          Ancient Greeks also had light hair and light eyes just like modern Greeks, especially in the iron age Hellenic era,

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            Why do you browns cope so much? You have nothing to do with ancient Greeks, Ancient Greeks thought you were ugly (which also means they thought you were amoral/evil):

            https://greekreporter.com/2022/12/07/ancient-greek-beauty-standards-beautiful-greece/
            >Ancient Greeks who were beautiful, particularly men, were often described as “kaloskagathos,” an adjective that combines “kalos,” meaning beautiful or handsome, and “agathos,” which mean virtuous or good.
            >In fact, ancient Greeks believed that physical beauty had a direct correlation to internal beauty, meaning that good-looking people were also morally good while those deemed “ugly” were lacking character.
            >pale skin was sought after in ancient Greece
            >There are countless ancient texts advising women to don powdery, white makeup, which was largely lead-based, on their skin to maintain a pale complexion while covering any blemishes.
            >In ancient Greece, blue eyes and reddish-blonde hair were considered extremely beautiful.
            >Even heroes were given this distinction, relating to the idea that physical beauty related to inner goodness in ancient Greece. The Mycenean king Menelaus, an integral figure in the Trojan War, was described as “red-haired” in the Odyssey.
            >His wife, Helen of Troy, considered the most beautiful woman in the world, was fair, with long, golden-red hair and blue eyes, according to the ancient Greek poets.

            Both Ancient and modern Greeks have always had a percentage of people with light hair/eyes, just a gradient lower percentage than other Europeans, but it's always been there since the Hellenic golden age.

            We have already discussed this topic, significant Slavic admixture both in mainland Greece and on the islands. stop coping.
            the ancient Greeks were much brown.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >ancient Greeks were much brown.
            No, Ancient Mycenaean were "brown" (in the sense of Anatolian-Caucasian admixture). Hellenic Greeks were White (in the sense of Indo-European admixture).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they became whiter with each new wave of northern steppe barbarians, at the moment the Greeks are the whitest they have ever been (except for the Thracians, who mixed with the Turkish mongrels).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thracians weren't Greeks

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >iron age Hellenic era
            Slavic invasion moment, lmao.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        She is obviously wearing contact lenses

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is a Slavic admixture.

          Why do you browns cope so much? You have nothing to do with ancient Greeks, Ancient Greeks thought you were ugly (which also means they thought you were amoral/evil):

          https://greekreporter.com/2022/12/07/ancient-greek-beauty-standards-beautiful-greece/
          >Ancient Greeks who were beautiful, particularly men, were often described as “kaloskagathos,” an adjective that combines “kalos,” meaning beautiful or handsome, and “agathos,” which mean virtuous or good.
          >In fact, ancient Greeks believed that physical beauty had a direct correlation to internal beauty, meaning that good-looking people were also morally good while those deemed “ugly” were lacking character.
          >pale skin was sought after in ancient Greece
          >There are countless ancient texts advising women to don powdery, white makeup, which was largely lead-based, on their skin to maintain a pale complexion while covering any blemishes.
          >In ancient Greece, blue eyes and reddish-blonde hair were considered extremely beautiful.
          >Even heroes were given this distinction, relating to the idea that physical beauty related to inner goodness in ancient Greece. The Mycenean king Menelaus, an integral figure in the Trojan War, was described as “red-haired” in the Odyssey.
          >His wife, Helen of Troy, considered the most beautiful woman in the world, was fair, with long, golden-red hair and blue eyes, according to the ancient Greek poets.

          Both Ancient and modern Greeks have always had a percentage of people with light hair/eyes, just a gradient lower percentage than other Europeans, but it's always been there since the Hellenic golden age.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Helen of Troy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon there are many R1a and I2 of slavic subclades in Greece. Greeks are 1/3 slavic on average.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's even more R1b than R1a in Greek blood.

            The Greek language is Indo-European afterall, it is no surprise that it comes from Indo-European blooded people.

            R1* is by far the biggest paternal component of the Grecian peoples.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Greek R1a is completely Slavic, in addition, most of the I lines are also of Slavic origin.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Huge cope. Greek is a Steppe language, the people who are genetically Steppe brought it into the region.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Greek R1a is completely Slavic
            Can we be certain of this? What are the subclades? It's difficult to find this info, in my language anyway.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yes, like macedonia was slavic, his name was alexandrovski macedoniski

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Her hair is clearly, visibly, dyed. And I don't need to be told what Greeks are like. My wife is Greek and has a very similar dye job, supposedly to imitate the way the sun naturally bleaches her hair in the Greece. I would say from firsthand experience that a majority of Greek women dye their hair, mostly lightening it. The ones with dark brown hair make it light brown. Those with light brown hair go blonde. The blondes usually go for a lighter blonde. One exception is my sister in law who dyed her light brown hair jet black for several years during her goth phase, which also included wearing leather thigh high boots and jackets in the Mediterranean summer.
        Some of my wife's family do have blue eyes, and about half of them have light brown or dirty blond hair. The same is true of most people from their region in my experience.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Her hair roots are literally blonde tho.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Her hair is black

          Not trying to be confrontational, I just legit don't see it, the roots look blonde. I think you are caught off guard because she's a dirty blonde and the shadows are darker than other shades of blonde hair.

          Maybe you guys have another picture of her, but I don't see it in this one.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're white so obviously yes

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >60% slavic north greeks
        meme model, otherwise serbians are 80% slavic

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the Serb level is actually 65-70%.
          and the Croats are not higher than the Serbs because they have a Germanic admixture that brings the level down a little.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            svetovid nosense

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't...
            in any case, the most Slavic in the Balkans are the Bosnian Muslims, kek.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Svetovid has proved Serbs are highly Slavic, I don't remember the numbers, but I think they're over 60% Slavic.

            The most Slavic-shifted Greek outliers being over 50% makes complete sense since this particular subset of Greeks are similar to N. Macedonians and Bulgarians.

            south slavs look nothing like north slavs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Svetovid has proved Serbs are highly Slavic, I don't remember the numbers, but I think they're over 60% Slavic.

          The most Slavic-shifted Greek outliers being over 50% makes complete sense since this particular subset of Greeks are similar to N. Macedonians and Bulgarians.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not even South Slavs are Slavs lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cope.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That chart is meaningless, since it lacks thracians and illyrians. Also most ancient greeks were from islands and anatolia so were mixed with luwians since the beginning.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >hometowns of literaly whos no one knows

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anyone with IQ above 90 knows most of them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What are the sources?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          roach twitter

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          pulled it right out of his behind

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mixed Greeks do. Like your picrelated who has a half-German mother.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The overwhelming majority of Greek men and women have brown (actually brown, not "dark blonde") to black hair. Women dye their hair though
      t. Greek

      Also it's true, apparently her mother is mixed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        her mother btw

        [...]
        Ironically enough, her mother is half german making her a quarter German. I have a friend whose mother is German (full blooded) who used to be blonde when young but has darkened considerably overall

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's not relevant at all, both parents need the gene for blonde hair/blue eyes to produce offspring with it.

        That has always been the entire point of "blonde hair, blue eyed people". Obviously even Nordics are mostly darker hair. The point is that it's a recessive gene, meaning that Europeans who have it can then be identified as pure European because non-Europeans will never be able to produce any offspring with bh/be in their lines.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >both parents need the gene
          Irl, not just 6th grade basic mendelian models, I am pretty sure there are multiple genes that need to cowork and work on a spectrum, rather than a single one. Furthermore. even in limited cases, non Europeans can have blond hair

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Alright Anon, then let's open up that post-6th grade genetic model can of worms. I propose we do it by first establishing where it _does_ work; which is exclusively with intra-race breeding.

            When two white Europeans reproduce the phenotype is determined by the alleles on matching genes. This phenotype is by definition what is physically visible; straight hair, wavy hair, blonde hair, brown hair etc. European traits light and dark. Now there are several genes that determine things like skin colour, eye colour, hair colour etc., but there aren't nearly as many as most people think, we know precisely which genes and we also know which combination of alleles give which phenotype. A Greek breeding with another Greek might have recessive alleles for blonde hair and their offspring might be blonde despite both parents having dark hair. Similarly a Greek and a blonde German have a very high probability that their children will be blonde and almost 100% probably that the child will be blonde while young and with darker straight hair as they age which is the most common phenotype in central Europe.

            Now, let's contrast this with the more compex inter-race mixing. Here it's actually much simpler; the probability of blonde kids is precisely zero. Why? Because there is no "opposing allele on matching parent chromosomes"; the gene itself is actually simply not present. As I said, they aren't that many, we know they don't exist in non-whites. Now that gene could then become tightly bound around histones (become inactive intragenes), it can be loose with no opposing allele (very bad for genes causing genetic diseases), but it cannot be healthily expressed which you have two opposing chromosome lengths; in general a high entropy dysgenic clusterfrick.

            One thing is certain those kids will never look like white Europeans again.

            And that is why bh/be is a useful abstraction of Europeans. It is not at all about the colour/phenotype, it's about the underlying genotype.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    South Slavs are closer to pre-Slavic Balkans than the other way around, at least in the southern part

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >self reported
    Though the study was to get a reference population set in order to make more accurate predictions. Its possible they actually picked them with a bias for people with more varied hair color

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Modern "Greeks" are actually dark haired mulattoes, but Ancient Greeks were indeed Nordic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did they become darker due to the Slavs and Goths?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nah. E-V13 Nafris and J2 Syrians.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Nafris
          E-M81
          >Syrians
          J1

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nope.

            >Loosdrecht et al. (2018) analysed genome-wide data from seven ancient individuals from the Iberomaurusian Grotte des Pigeons site near Taforalt in north-eastern Morocco. The fossils were directly dated to between 15,100 and 13,900 calibrated years before present. The scientists found that all males belonged to haplogroup E1b1b, common among Afroasiatic males. The male specimens with sufficient nuclear DNA preservation belonged to the paternal haplogroup E1b1b1a1 (M78), with one skeleton bearing the E1b1b1a1b1 parent lineage to E-V13, one male specimen belonged to E1b1b (M215*).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hi Joseph

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Who?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Joseph you are not phoenician, you are nafri mutt

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the haplogroup of that sample has been resequenced as e-m78 in a later study
            e-v13 has been found in iron age bulgaria and romania and it's not present in nafris

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/wX6iNpo.jpg

            according to that study that clade is almost exclusively limited to europe

            What is this Taforalt mulatto even trying lol.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            E-V13 bros... Why is the ancestral version of our haplogroup only carried by Gambians... I don't feel so good...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Damn no wonder they are are so brown.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Makes sense that younger clades left, Europe has had clades of E present since the Neolithic at least.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >E-V13
          native greek
          >and J2
          native greek

          greeks have no mena y-dna

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >E-V13
            Black

            >J2
            Araboid.

            Greeks are shitskin rapebabies. This is undeniable.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Most ancient greeks were J2 shitskins.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >r1b elite
            DAS RITE

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >>E-V13
            >Black
            e-v13 is balkaner moron
            >>J2
            >Araboid.
            arab real y-dna is E, not j2 or even j1

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hi Joseph

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hi Joseph

            Hi Mordvix

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sheeeeeit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      according to that study that clade is almost exclusively limited to europe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is like saying Spaniards have Native American DNA

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    MALAZGIRT 1066 ISTANBUL 1453 SAKARYA 1921 TOTAL GREEK DEATH

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's less than half but yes blond Greeks exist

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want her to spit and laugh at me and call me a dirty Germanic barbar while she hogs all the warm water in the shower, just making me stand there feeling humiliated.

    &humanities

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    stop replying to those bait posts

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Greek women were at the heart of the Barbary slave trade, which is what mongrelized them with black hair, dark brown eyes, and olive skin. The same for Italians and Spaniards with centuries of Muslim Moor conquests.

    So pure ones are quite the bit of a rarity.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like how the most muttified people in the world - muttified to such an extent we literally can't tell what they are - South Slavs and Turks, accuse the Greeks and Albanians of being mutts.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The overwhelming majority of Greek men and women have brown (actually brown, not "dark blonde") to black hair. Women dye their hair though
    t. Greek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Also it's true, apparently her mother is mixed

      Ironically enough, her mother is half german making her a quarter German. I have a friend whose mother is German (full blooded) who used to be blonde when young but has darkened considerably overall

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Her hair is black

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE MED JUST LIKE ME

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