Have there ever been 'confirmed' cases of miracles or answered intercessions that had scientists puzzled?

Have there ever been 'confirmed' cases of miracles or answered intercessions that had scientists puzzled?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, because Abrahamic religion is a scam

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Atheism is the greatest scam to ever exist

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh yeah, what scientific proof do you have that atheism is incorrect?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you ever observed an instance of something just suddenly existing when it didn't exist before? That's what you believe if you're an atheist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Have you ever observed an instance of something just suddenly existing when it didn't exist before?
            Quantum fluctuation, for example?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have there been any experiments that are confirmed to have violated the conservation of energy principle?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That would assume the quantum phenomena already exist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If by "quantum phenomena" you mean God then yes I agree

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds good to me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also you dont have the luxury of assumptions. You're a skeptic. So [insert scientism here] doesnt explain the big bang if we can't understand and/or replicate it. Basically your proposition fails to meet the smell test by your own criteria.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's even the meaning of this question, if time itself didn't exist at the "start" of the big bang. If you go by human experience, then naturally cosmic phenomena won't make any sense.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What's even the meaning of this question, if time itself didn't exist at the "start" of the big bang. If you go by human experience, then naturally cosmic phenomena won't make any sense.

            This sounds like a postulation that science will never adequately understand the mysteries of the universe and will continuously fail to meaningfully challenge the argument for God.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >This sounds like a postulation that science will never adequately understand the mysteries of the universe
            That's conjecture.

            >will continuously fail to meaningfully challenge the argument for God
            God is not even a concept that has a definitive definition. How could you disprove it? But that's not a feat to be proud of or an argument for his existence.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What's even the meaning of this question, if time itself didn't exist at the "start" of the big bang. If you go by human experience, then naturally cosmic phenomena won't make any sense.

            This sounds like a postulation that science will never adequately understand the mysteries of the universe and will continuously fail to meaningfully challenge the argument for God.

            (YOU)
            >That's conjecture.
            Okay then what's your point?

            >God is not even a concept that has a definitive definition. How could you disprove it? But that's not a feat to be proud of or an argument for his existence.

            God is 'defined' only by his inability to be defined. The nature of God is indescribable and unfathomable.

            My point with Atheists is that they often fail to recognize that they make great leaps of faith (even greater than Christians) to make their world view work. It's why the origin of the universe is such an annoying topic to them. Something can't come from nothing yet Atheists claim there is no evidence for God because "well maybe this... or maybe quantum fluctuation" meanwhile they are surrounded by a world governed by endlessly intricate universal laws. The fortunate reality is that we are all of divine origin. Glory to God.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The nature of God is indescribable and unfathomable.
            Then how I am supposed to talk about him, let alone prove him.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >God is 'defined' only by his inability to be defined.
            kek, this is a blatant contradiction btw

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a deliberate word choice and even put in quotations for that reason. I could just as easily have said "You can't define God." Good one though bro.

            >The nature of God is indescribable and unfathomable.
            Then how I am supposed to talk about him, let alone prove him.

            You don't prove him. You have faith in him and worship him. Science is a useful tool but it will never explain the true nature of existence (e.g. divine reality)

            >God is 'defined' only by his inability to be defined. The nature of God is indescribable and unfathomable.

            So bullshit, then

            >So bullshit, then
            Do you really think that you, a person whose brain could fit in a bucket, could ever understand the true nature of a divine entity?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you really think that you, a person whose brain could fit in a bucket, could ever understand the true nature of a divine entity?

            How can a believer do this then, you fricking moron

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How can a believer do this then, you fricking moron

            Where did I say believers understand God? We have access only to what he has revealed to us and we rely on the Church to help us to interpret that and apply it to our lives. God is an ocean and what we know of him is only a drop.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Non-believers can never get it, they refuse to try and understand religion as it is meant to be understood and always assess it based on how much sense it makes as a man-made mythology, because that's how THEY see it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They view it through their own lens and only use their own definitions of words. For example when an atheist says objective truth he means something with maximum confidence. The religious person means absolutely true not just a 99.99999 percent success rate

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They view it through their own lens and only use their own definitions of words. For example when an atheist says objective truth he means something with maximum confidence. The religious person means absolutely true not just a 99.99999 percent success rate

            Are you now legitimately having a conversation with yourself?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >God is an ocean and what we know of him is only a drop.
            >>Do you really think that you, a person whose brain could fit in a bucket, could ever understand the true nature of a divine entity?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ...is there a point in requoting that?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, do we know only a part of the divine nature or nothing at all about it? Also, what might this imply about all your claims about them, mainly its infallibility?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >God is 'defined' only by his inability to be defined. The nature of God is indescribable and unfathomable.

            So bullshit, then

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fatima comes to mind, idk about any scientists who've discussed it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >most people there didn't see anything
      >people who saw something were staring at the sun for minutes
      There's zero mystery about Fatima.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice lies.

        https://i.imgur.com/W4ok4Zu.jpg

        Have there ever been 'confirmed' cases of miracles or answered intercessions that had scientists puzzled?

        Here you have the latest official Lourdes miracle lady talking about her insta heal from egregious disease:

        Any scientist can go to the lourdes medical boureau and try to debunk the miracles, they dont do it, wonder why?

        Also a future nobel prize saw miracles first hand there, then he had to leave for america because the university here was mad he wouldnt denny what he saw:
        https://aleteia.org/2018/11/06/the-lourdes-miracle-that-brought-a-nobel-prize-winning-doctor-to-faith/

        The story of Emile Zola getting stumped at Lourdes is also quite funny:
        https://catholicomics.wordpress.com/1-emile-zola-vs-lourdes/

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even secular jornalists who went there to mock the event saw it and reported on it. Such newspapers are available to see on the internetz.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The earth literally grows people

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Have there ever been 'confirmed' cases of miracles or answered intercessions
    Yes.
    >that had scientists puzzled?
    No. Nothing can puzzle a naturalist, it's an unfalsifiable premise. When a cancer gets healed, then it must have been misdiagnosed. When future is predicted, it must have been a coincidence. When an apparition is made to multiple people, it must have been mass hysteria etc.

    Atheists don't have a method by which they could establish "yes, this was divine". Until they do, they can never scientifically analyze any miracle.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Atheists don't have a method by which they could establish "yes, this was divine".
      It's not needed. Because you can prove that "no, [insert religion] is not divine".

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >[method for gathering evidence is] not needed
        It is for science.

        Ok, prove that for Christianity and describe the method.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not even needed for science, because there's never "truth" in science but theories, which are ranked by the accuracy of their predictions.

          For example that God tries to convince us of his existence. Which is the purpose of the bible, if we go by Christian theology. If God existed, he'd know that his existence can not be proven. So why try and give arguments?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >[gathering evidence] is not needed for science
            No further questions from my side.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not taking issue with the evidence gathering I'm taking issue with your proposition. When I asked if you'd observed matter being created fron nothing you should have either 1) asterisked your answer with enough qualifiers that it can be dismissed because no one understands it or 2) simply say 'no'.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No further questions from my side.
            I understand how you got into the cult now.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Outside of Christianity, yes.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every blood stained eucharist, miracles well documented at Lourdes, and multiple saints and blsseded. I mean we can go on and on. Also, undeccaying bodies of the saints. Just go.walk up to St. Padre Pio's body.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Blood stained Eucharist
      Documented by illiterate serfs 600 years ago
      >Miracles at Lourdes
      Perpetuated by greedy bishops with a vested interest in getting people to go on pilgrimage
      >Saints
      Literal church propaganda
      >Padre Pio
      They covered his face with a silicon mask dipshit

      >I mean we can go on and on
      Lol, Lmao even

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >things need a heckin' cause to exist!
    this is it. this is literally the only christgay argument

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're forgetting the gypsy tier parler tricks anon. Someone's sweater became dirty, then it became clean agaim. Spooooooky

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, do we know only a part of the divine nature or nothing at all about it? Also, what might this imply about all your claims about them, mainly its infallibility?

        >things need a heckin' cause to exist!
        this is it. this is literally the only christgay argument

        >Blood stained Eucharist
        Documented by illiterate serfs 600 years ago
        >Miracles at Lourdes
        Perpetuated by greedy bishops with a vested interest in getting people to go on pilgrimage
        >Saints
        Literal church propaganda
        >Padre Pio
        They covered his face with a silicon mask dipshit

        >I mean we can go on and on
        Lol, Lmao even

        Even secular jornalists who went there to mock the event saw it and reported on it. Such newspapers are available to see on the internetz.

        Frisian schizo samegay post

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's nice, now back to Lourdes, I heard they found a new gypsy scam, I mean miracle

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