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How accurate is this religious map of the upcoming Europa Universalis 5?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >large areas being majority muslim in Iberia in 1444 (outside andalusia)
    0%

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually a minority. I blame the image compression for misleading us in a way.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its 1337 chud

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        1337, like [...] said.

        Leet

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What year is the EU5 start date?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      1337, like

      its 1337 chud

      said.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    all the catholic land should be zoroastrian

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well, its monarchs were certainly acting as if they were under xwedodah, kek

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >7+ different faiths for North American indians
    I don't think they have their priorities straight

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's the problem with that

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's too many for how (un)important the region is in this time period. It takes effort to make a religion and the focus of that many religions in an effectively prehistoric area means that either resources will have to be diverted from more interesting regions, or that they will be so barren and similar that they could have been combined into one totemist religion like in eu4.

        America is huge though, it would be categorically inaccurate to have aztecs share a faith with comanche

        I did not even count the Aztecs as >North American.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They probably differentiated NA religions and cultures in order to allow for events like the French and Indian war.
          It also provides better larp value if you, say, want to do a campaign starting in NA that resists colonisation, because it won't let you easily conquer neighbours that, in reality, were quite different from each other.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      America is huge though, it would be categorically inaccurate to have aztecs share a faith with comanche

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Comanche didn't exist back then

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I know at least the Iroquois had a montheistic religion before Europeans arrived but an Oneida tribe member told me this and you can never really be certain how much of what natives tell you is real. That definitely did throw me off though when I first saw the map, albeit clumping totally different isolated populations into a broad ‘animist’ religion is also dumb.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >albeit clumping totally different isolated populations into a broad ‘animist’ religion is also dumb.
        Yes I agree, it is about proportionality
        I don't mean that I don't like flavour in North Amercia, but if there's so much attention there and meanwhile Africa, South-America and large parts of Indonesia are the same Animist group, it shows something went wrong with the allocation of time and resources.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they should merge tengrist, animist, shamanist, totemist, nahua, sami, romuva, hindu, shinto, basically every religion that isnt muslim, christian or buddhist into one so they can be more easily wiped out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even if we ignore the gameplay losses for that change, it'd only buff those religions.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a step back in detail from EU4 so they can fill it back in with DLC, again
    It's all so tiresome.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How the frick is it a step back in detail? Just look at any map they've posted for the game. There are like 40,000 provinces for the game alone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just to give you one example, eu4 had the Inti religion to represent Incas' unique religion. Judging from that map, it's gone. But I'm sure it will be added back in the upcoming EU5: El Dorado DLC or whatever

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Then don't post an inaccurate map that doesn't feature all the religions.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The map is work in progress, as are all things posted by them on their DEV DIARY.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How about waiting for the definitive map to make this thread then, you ADHD-addled chimp?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            My Black, the enitre premise of the thread was to find the kinks to iron out by looking for historical inaccuracies.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is Paradox outsourcing quality control to IQfy or something? Who the frick are you and where's my paycheck?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I was interested in hearing IQfy' consensus about the subject. And no, I wish I worked for Paradox.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Calvinist countries will never reroll the dice in a battle, as everything is preordained.
            Kek

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Shinto did not exist until the Meiji Restoration.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >latvia/lithuania
    >ruomuva
    i thought the balts had been christianised in the 1200s

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nope, they were still pagan. That's why the Teutonic Order made their state there.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        makes sense
        i thought the teutons had finished up by this point and were now just focused on screwing with the poles

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There can be a pretty big difference between replacing the ruling elite or converting the local aristocracy (on paper) versus converting the entire populace. Lithuania was also very swampy so it was hard for the Teutonic heavy cavalry to make any real headway there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Their kings were, but that does not magically convert the entire land

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Large swathes of Finland still held on to traditional beliefs, even many who had converted were syncretic. there are documents about bishops complaining about this so it wasn't in just some backwater villages.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      As a Swedish company they should know that

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        2bh I think the inclusion of Sami Shamanist as distinct from other types of shamanism is already a big sign of their Swedish proximity bias.
        I do not think it's warranted to make it an unique religion for how impactless it is on the grand scale of things and I find it very annoying.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Who would've thought that a European company decides to focus more on Europe in a game series called Europa Universalis
          Although yeah I completely understand your gripe

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Who would've thought that a European company decides to focus more on Europe in a game series called Europa Universalis
            This is a good joke
            How long until China is added to Crusader Kings 3 I wonder

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >How long until China is added to Crusader Kings 3 I wonder
            Now that we know a Byzantine DLC is coming in Summer we may assume that special Imperial Chinese gov't systems are in works

            Would china really be mahayana at the time?
            also thankfully they included bogos in bosnia, i would say they did a lot better job at the cultures and religions than vic 2 lol

            Agreed

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Would china really be mahayana at the time?
    also thankfully they included bogos in bosnia, i would say they did a lot better job at the cultures and religions than vic 2 lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >How long until China is added to Crusader Kings 3 I wonder
      Now that we know a Byzantine DLC is coming in Summer we may assume that special Imperial Chinese gov't systems are in works
      [...]
      Agreed

      If the culture is either 100% of one or the other in a province, it's not better than Vic II

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this is a section of the culture map

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          of spain as well

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's fine for Europe and the Middle East, but the Chinese weren't Buddhist. Religion was more fluid there, with most people following regional Chinese folk beliefs

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what's the blueish dot in the Balkans supposed to be?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Would china really be mahayana at the time?
      also thankfully they included bogos in bosnia, i would say they did a lot better job at the cultures and religions than vic 2 lol

      >also thankfully they included bogos in bosnia, i would say they did a lot better job at the cultures and religions than vic 2 lol

  12. 1 month ago
    Talisin

    If Paradox were very pro-consumer and its fanbase, theyd build off of and translate all the content into base eu5 (or atleast free updates) and then make new content for eu5 dlc later on (which i will still pirate)

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Paradox has fallen far and this game is going to suck ass

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hope the Protestant reformation will have many different choices to choose like in the mod Pope Leo’s nightmare for eu4. That mod has like 12 reformations that spawn including mennonites and other anabaptist sects or anti-trinitarians like Servetuscist or Socinianism

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd hope there'd be a bit more nuance to it. The kind of Islam practised in Anatolia at the time, for example, was very heterodox and Sufi oriented. It shouldn't be a foregone conclusion that Sunni orthodoxy beats out Bektashism/Alevism there. The Qizilbash that carry the Safavids to glory didn't emerge out of nowhere.

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