he's kinda stupid desu

he's kinda stupid tbh

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How so?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >steals figs so the bros will like him
      >gets tricked into joining a cult
      >gets disillusioned by cult for not having all the answers to his questions
      >"aight i think christianity might be it then, but i need to do moar research" (it's literally the only real major faith around)
      >becomes a fedora-tipping skeptic, drives himself mad
      >becomes a neoplatonist, has a genuine moment of metaphysical understanding, but is dissatisfied that everything wasn't answered
      >"wtf what i thought i understood everything now"
      >basically has a mental breakdown for not being able to force himself to be christian with this sunk-cost fallacy mindset
      >during said mental breakdown, he is miraculously converted after he *thinks* he hears a voice talking to him that magically lifts any responsibility for getting his shit together
      >converts without further interrogating the experience he had or the bible further

      He just comes off as an unfulfilled manic-depressive that got mindbroken by his first genuine spiritual experience, spiralled into psychosis and didn't know what it was. I'd know because I've been him.
      I've had experiences like Augustine's, I've assumed they were God, I've assumed they were the devil or demons too. I can't just assume they're God as much as I believe in one. I think he accumulated a good deal of wisdom, but his life was so coloured by Catholicism that he was limited to the elephant in the room and just gave in. Like just imagine if someone told him about Hindu metaphysics or Krishna lol

      Idk though, maybe I'll see Jesus tonight after saying this and make a thread here later about how moronic I was

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe try Buddhism and stop believing all the bullshit your mind tells you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          been there done that
          i like playing the game though

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >i like playing the game though
            Good point.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I just brought up the figs because everyone seems to think it makes him omg so relatable, but I found it the opposite. Like, who thinks that way? It's fricking baffling. I can't relate to his experiences or world view at all. His confessions read like the ravings of a lunatic or a space alien.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >muh Hindu metaphysics
        You have a shallow understanding of Christian spirituality if you think Hinduism is spiritually richer than Christianity in any way that is meaningful, or if Pastor Jim Moron from Bible Southern Baptist Church is the intellectual pinnacle of Christian thought. How do I know you haven't been duped by exoticism, contrarianism, or and I doubt you'd entertain the last option but I'll say it anyway, a demon?

        I just brought up the figs because everyone seems to think it makes him omg so relatable, but I found it the opposite. Like, who thinks that way? It's fricking baffling. I can't relate to his experiences or world view at all. His confessions read like the ravings of a lunatic or a space alien.

        You haven't been born again, of course you think it sounds like an alien or a lunatic wrote it. You'd get it if you were. Admittedly, he seems dramatic in his presentation, but the sentiment, that is, having done a bad thing for the sake of doing bad feeling good, only for that feeling to turn sour to the point it makes you repent, is a not an un-common sentiment that occurs at some point in a saved person's life.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You have a shallow understanding of Christian spirituality if you think Hinduism is spiritually richer than Christianity
          But it is, do you even know what you're talking about?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            t. exoticist navel gazing nerd who never read the Bible or any of its commentaries and historically influential theological works

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >doing bad thing feels good
          This is the part I don't get

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't say Hinduism is spiritually richer. I said that Hindu metaphysics would have thrown Augustine for a loop. That said, it genuinely is.

          The metaphysics of Christianity must explain how only Jesus is God and how He works. This is presupposed and seen as necessary, with the possibility that the actual truth may lie beyond this view not even considered. The idea that anyone else is capable of hypostatic union is regarded as heresy, and the possibility that it could be the default state is seen as even worse.

          Yet Advaita Vedanta and Sanatana Dharma can explain empirical and theoretical worldly and spiritual truth congruent with Neoplatonism while accounting for Christ's divinity and his words. It is all coherent to reason, to personal mystical experience, and to faith. I'm yet to find a flaw when applied, and it explains my mystical experiences in an actually coherent way. Catholicism nearly does it for me and it is very philosophically developed, but the metaphysics are just the Trinity jerry-rigged onto the Neoplatonic One.

          I value greatly the contribution that Christ and Christianity has had on the world, having basically built the West. But it's difficult to see as correct in the absolute given this. The closest I think you got, from my limited knowledge, was Meister Eckhart.

          t. exoticist navel gazing nerd who never read the Bible or any of its commentaries and historically influential theological works

          >exoticist
          You love that word, but you don't explain what Christianity does better than Hinduism without presupposing the Christian worldview. I would sincerely like to hear it.
          >Bible or any of its commentaries
          This is another issue. Instead of being able to accept that anything lay beyond the structure, you have to rely on these in-depth commentaries that turn water into wine in order to squeeze this purported infinite value from the text. In any other case, this would be insincere. But this time?
          >It's God, He doesn't have to move for you.
          >Mysterious ways...
          I don't resent it, but it's a tough one to swallow.

          Why is this book literally thw gayest shit ever written?
          >O madness, which knowest not how to love men, like men!
          > Thou hadst given sharp arrows, and destroying coals against the subtle tongue, which as though advising for us, would thwart, and would out of love devour us, as it doth its meat
          >I had no joy therein, but sought to please men by it; and that not to instruct, but simply to please. Wherefore also Thou didst break my bones with the staff of Thy correction
          Happy Pride month everyone!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe you'll think I'm a victim of sunk-cost fallacy because I'm Catholic and Augustine is my confirmation but this is a really dumb reading of the book. Calling Manichaeism a "cult" is really downplaying its relevance at the time; it was a legitimate contender to overtake Christianity at one point. Saying Augustine had no other faiths around than Christianity makes no sense when his father was literally a pagan and he wrote speeches for pagan politicians.

        There are actual valid criticisms you could make of the Confessions (he lays it on a bit thick with his mommy issues) but these are dumb.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why was there over 1000 years of nothing after Aristotle? What were people doing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Coping with Aquinas.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Crushing acorns, nuts, plants, fingernails, etc. satisfyingly in mortar and pestle.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I was a shithead who threw away figs for fun
    >Therefore, all humans are evil

    I don't know what anyone sees in this schizo.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First half is an interesting example of coming to find christ within the context of the Roman Empire and the religions and philosophies it competed with. Very moving account of the human experience. Second part is just junk about a Roman trying to explain things he has no way of possibly understanding, and naturally giving up.

    >Wgat is Thought
    >What is Memory
    >What is Time
    >I dunno Praise God tho

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being you, an anon no where near this Saint’s level on IQfy talking shit about him.
    You’re a special kind of stupid
    Save your response, Put this idiot thread in the hidden column

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Save your response

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I read his Critique of Skepticism. Arguments aside he came across as a stubborn butthole.
    I guess he had a couple decent points, but the smug way he presented his arguments made me angry

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This was my takeaway from City of God. Augustine was kind of a dick.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a bunch of teenagers and twentysomethings thinking they know better than a saint

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks saints are real and not just a man made concept

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Shoo shoo, Calvinist

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >a bunch of chuds thinking they know more about the vaccine than the Medical Experts™
      >a carpenter thinking they know more than the pharisees

      question nothing i agree

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Was St Augustine the one that got a boner in the Roman public baths as a kid and everyone laughed at him, and it traumatized him for life? Or was that someone else?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this book literally thw gayest shit ever written?
    >O madness, which knowest not how to love men, like men!
    > Thou hadst given sharp arrows, and destroying coals against the subtle tongue, which as though advising for us, would thwart, and would out of love devour us, as it doth its meat
    >I had no joy therein, but sought to please men by it; and that not to instruct, but simply to please. Wherefore also Thou didst break my bones with the staff of Thy correction
    Happy Pride month everyone!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean he went around fricking lots of women in hIs youth. Doesnt seem too homo

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I read it last year. I did appreciate it as an insight into a life in an interesting period in time, especially with the bits about daily life with his mother and friends. But philosophically, eh.......

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As someone with no Christian ancestry I find the story of the pear tree to be a bizarre one

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The story isn't about "the pears" themselves; it's about how he didn't even want the pears but just wanted to will something wrong for the sake of wrongness. He's intentionally taking a stupidly trivial example and then using it as a springboard to talk about the abstract human inclination to evil.

      It feels mopier to you than it really is because you're missing the political context of the book, which is Augustine's defending his own episcopacy as a Bishop. He's being mopey and humble and pious in a way of rhetoric that was popular at the time to defend his political position.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wait till you hear about the Fall of man

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