Historically speaking, by what right do government have to tell their citizens what to do?

Historically speaking, by what right do government have to tell their citizens what to do? Is it might makes right, or is it something else? Should citizens have the right to tell their government what to do?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >by what right do government have to tell their citizens what to do?
    in democracies, governments get the right to tell us what to do because we get to tell them what to do in turn. The commands between each other are reciprocal, and are shaped and informed by mutual compromise. That's the social contract in its most basic form.
    Most other forms of government derive authority solely through the threat of violence, however, yes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, so all I have to do is vote for the party that supports Palestine's claim to its own rightful clay? Seems easy enough.

      ...which party was that, again?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are, of course, allowed to form your own political parties. It's a matter of popularity and compromise.

        The US has 2 big tent parties who are not homogeneous. The "give every everything to Palestine and wipe Israel off the map" is not popular enough, or not a big enough issue compared to other planks of a party platform.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just move to Palestine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is American civics education cope.

      The truth is that liberal democracy in its current form is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. The bourgeoisie is controlled by rackets and monopolies who lobby for laws and social relations that benefit them. America has a two party system that answers to the same masters that demand financial bubbles be maintained by accumulating massive amounts of debt, importing cheap labour and price gouging. This is essentially a form of socialism for the rich.

      What you are witnessing is the continual development of a totalitarian world system where dissent is impossible . This has been an ongoing project in the United States since the 1970s at the latest, where they crushed union movements, introduced experimental drugs into minority communities and instructed people with bogus philosophy (Karl Popper, French theory etc.) in ivory institutions.

      So long as meaningful dissent is impossible people will continue to defend and slide towards supporting their masters out of stockholm syndrome. They will enjoy the Steven Spielberg production of the Biden presidency and go back to sleep.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      op was probably not thinking about 2500 year old dead constitutions when he asked his question

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The government exists to uphold society and protect its citizens and their God given rights.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Obey or die" is in the social contract

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It has only ever been might makes right everything to the contrary is obfuscation

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Violence is the fundamental basis of all authority. The great shift of the modern age has been towards a centralized monopoly on violence held by the state, where as before many different families could exercise violence within their respective domains even if they acknowledged the greater legitimacy of a monarch to commit violence.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironic answer: read John Austin

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Historically speaking, by what right do government have to tell their citizens what to do?
    Historically? The divine right of kings. But in modern liberal countries it is consent between the governors and the governed. The government protects you from invaders or criminals in exchange for taxes and trade.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jnless they're a clear majority, any citizen trying themselves to the Government is a dissident and must be dealt with to restore social peace. By force if law doesn't cut it

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    society is a social pact, it's built around authority because if everyond gets to do what he wants you end up with chaos.
    those who want chaos want to impose their own order, it goes against the democratic structure of a country.
    every order is authoritarian by nature. give free reign yo revolutionaries and terror ensues because they have to resort to extreme violence to impose a new regime.
    kids want more freedom but bad actors will jump on the power vacuum, assuming they weren't pulling the strings from the start.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    human have power to defeat the anti-spirals

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      row row
      fight the powah

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it might makes right, or is it something else?
    Might makes right is *SORT OF* true, but you need to remember that the physical might of individuals is literally nothing. Generals need to be compelling speakers to motivate their troops. They need to not persecute scientists, because they need the scientists' research to make the best weapons. They need bureaucrats to efficiently collect taxes from the lands they conquer. Basically, they need to obey some degree of morality to actually exercise any lasting might, which means that in the final analysis, the true might is that of God, not the guy with the gun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Basically, they need to obey some degree of morality to actually exercise any lasting might, which means that in the final analysis, the true might is that of God, not the guy with the gun.
      mfw reading this absurd cope

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whats the context of this photo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      narcissism

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    government is just organized crime with (slightly) more social legitimacy. governing a person is morally criminal, just as much as owning them or killing them. government is evil.

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