Historically, were women always like this?

Historically, were women always like this?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah. Why do you think Sharia has been around for so long?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Alhamdulilah for Islam. I can be sure when I marry my future wife Inshallah that I will be the first. Can't imagine what it's like for westoids.
      >t. gulfenjoyer

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >implying women stop being prostitutes during marriage
    around like 30% of kids were conceived by their mothers cheating in marriage and aren't related to their father

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      source?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        His ass

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That study was based on men that knew their wife had/was cheating on them and then requested a paternity test

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine how much higher it would be if we included the ones who don’t know.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There was another study that did, and the rate fell to 5% IIRC (still fricked up but not a 1/3rd chance of raising a bastard)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shalom

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta but lol, didn't the israelites themselves make this crisis much worse. Foids are truly the israelites of the gender. They are incredibly schemeing and lie without hesitation. And yet their degeneracy is still tolerated.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, only in times of social decline

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Riiiiiiight

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason men use porn. Nobody stops them and they make excuses.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Natural-born Citizen

      The difference is that everyone kind of knows instinctively why a bawd is bad, whereas nobody IRL teaches the dangers of porn addiction

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >women are total bawds who will frick anyone
    >...that's why i can't get laid
    Huh?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The issue is not getting laid, the issue is rather, why would you bother getting laid if there has been other men's semen inside, not to mention other things she's probably put in there..

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Had a motorcycle once. Loved that thing - a little yellow '97 CBR. Really good bike.
        Then it got stolen - and the twits took it for a joy ride.
        The police asked if I wanted to recover it - but i just let it be. I couldn't ride the bike again, knowing it's.....taint.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          im not investing money to something which is not my property

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then you view women the wrong way

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Perhaps, but not money.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hole that is a centimetre away from where she pissed
        >hole that is an inch and a half away from where she shits and farts from
        >hole that bleeds one a month,

        Yup, totally fresh and sterile place until a penis entered it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/sJaJqcH.jpg

      The issue is not getting laid, the issue is rather, why would you bother getting laid if there has been other men's semen inside, not to mention other things she's probably put in there..

      We all know the Madonna-prostitute complex. Loosely speaking, it is a psychological condition in which men categories women as either being Madonnas (desexualized, benign, motherly, chaste) or prostitutes (hyper-sexualized, dangerous, lustful, viceful) without being able to psychologically reconcile the two into a holistic understanding of an individual. Modern American women are afflicted with a similar condition. I call it the Chad-Creep complex. A woman with the chad-creep complex can only divide men into two categories: "Chads" who are perfect, attractive, desirable and can do no wrong, (handsome, smart, funny, tall) and "creeps" who can do no right and are ick-inducing undesirable losers (ugly, dumb, boring, small). It's a mass-psychological phenomena which primarily effects millennial and gen-z women. Why this developed is hard to say, but my theory is that these generations of girls were raised with hysterical paranoid media and parents telling them all men are evil killers in waiting and rapist, while also being raised to be attracted to men and idealizing men via movies and sports, etc. at the same time. This, combined with a society which pushes "girlboss" and "all women are queens" type of egoism and narcissism created the problem of today, where, yes, a woman can somehow be both a prostitute and prude at the same time. In my experience, non-western women don't really have the chad-creep complex and while they definitely lust after tall, hot guys they don't categories some random 5/10 common man everydude as a creep and are more likely to see a nuanced individual with strengths and weaknesses. Probably because non-western girls weren't raised with the aforementioned conditions American/Western women were.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Madonna-prostitute complex is moronic Freudian gobbledyasiatic. Feminism must insist that a man who wants an attractive, virtuous woman is delusional or pathological. Two opposing categories may be simplistic and convincing to you, but it is not quite that simple.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          t. virgin

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you have any evidence for this supposed complex? Does Freud have any evidence?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you think it’s normal for some random woman in a gym to call a stranger a creep because he exercises next to them at a public gym? I mean, at what point can we admit it’s either an unhealthy sexual impulse or an unusually sociopathic impulse? I don’t think it can just be chalked up to “girls will be girls” or that it’s a normal state of affairs. Society needs to stop normalizing female mental illness but women have so much power and most of society can’t really see it. They take it for granted.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why don't men just love virgins and wait until marriage to have sex?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you honestly think there's enough virgin women (of age) out there for every man who wants to marry a virgin, as a virgin? Women start bawdting themselves out at 13 years old, and any woman who says she wants to wait until marriage in the 21st century is 100% fricking chad on the side and just wants to milk whatever helpless sod that believes her for betabux.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i like think that in our advanced industrial society at the pinnacle of our technological evolution everyone is labeled as a disgusting beast with low self-control who really knows nothing beyond pleasure and ignorance.

            Really helps to put things into perspective.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because sex is the best feeling on earth physically and emotionally.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I do love virgins. It's just impossible to find them.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically I wanna say that I'm a gay, and I've slept with just 2 less than the amount of guys in that pic. I'm also 19 btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you a cute boy??

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mhm :3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you a cute boy??

      mhm :3

      gays are nasty

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering marriages were arranged and nobody really had a say in them, not really. It would also be hard to account for the women who were forced to marry chuds but fricked chads in secret.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If a woman was caught committing adultery she would either be killed or abused by her husband and society ad hoc. Women cucking their husbands for a taste of chad's dik didn't happen as much as you think it did.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Une Chienne Andalou

    Imagine unironically believing that image is even close to an accurate representation of reality. The problem with incel scum is that they are so fixated and obssessed with sex that it’s literally all they can think about. Everywhere they look, in every interaction they have, it’s always about sex somehow. Sex is the incels primary motive to do anything. If it doesn’t increase your chances of having sex, why do it? This is how the incel thinks. Perhaps Freud was closer to the truth than I thought. I unironically believe Incels would see a dramatic increase in quality of life if they literally cut their balls off if only just so they could look upon the world with a new perspective, a perspective uncorrupted and unmarred by a debased sex drive

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm the aforementioned homosexual that's taken over 20 wieners and have slept with a total of 35 people in my 19 years of life, and you're not wrong by assessing incels as sex-obsessed. But Incels are sex-obsessed because they are sex-deprived.

      We're animals in the end. Deprive us of our animal needs, like food and water, and we die. To prevent this, our animal minds have figured out it's best to burn out rather than fading away, so our animal minds make us go apeshit if our animal needs aren't met. This goes for sex, too.

      Getting mad at incels for being obsessed with sex is like getting mad at an African for being obsessed with food or clean drinking water.

      let them chinless mfs smash

      • 3 weeks ago
        Une Chienne Andalou

        >Incels are sex-obsessed because they are sex-deprived
        exactly, the fundamental problem isn’t that they’re sex deprived, it’s that they desire sex to such a degree that being deprived of it they come to see life as not worth living. This is delusion of the highest degree.
        >Deprive us of our animal needs, like food and water, and we die.
        >This goes for sex, too
        Did you really just put sex on the same level as food and water? Are moids really THIS delusional? Say it ain’t so!
        >Getting mad at incels for being obsessed with sex is like getting mad at an African for being obsessed with food or clean drinking water
        Nope. We actually need food and water to live. Take away food or water and you will die within days, maybe weeks. Meanwhile there are people who have never had sex in their life and live a purposeful life for 60+ years. Sex cannot ever be put in the same category as food and water, it is NOT a basic need, but rather a hedonistic desire. Your mental anguish over not having sex is the result of you being mindfricked into deriving your value and self worth from sex. Once you fall to this delusion, you’re already on the way to becoming an incel.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No. When it comes to fundamental animal needs, like food, water, and sex, obsession does not come from only mental delusions; obsession comes from primarily deprivation.

          When it comes to mental delusions and ailments that bring forth obsession, it is usually over-indulgence for those whom have. Eating disorders that cause obesity, hyper-sexuality (Which yours truly most certainly has, etc.)

          >Did you really just put sex on the same level as food and water? Are moids really THIS delusional? Say it ain’t so!
          Yes.

          >Nope. We actually need food and water to live. Take away food or water and you will die within days, maybe weeks. Meanwhile there are people who have never had sex in their life and live a purposeful life for 60+ years. Sex cannot ever be put in the same category as food and water, it is NOT a basic need, but rather a hedonistic desire. Your mental anguish over not having sex is the result of you being mindfricked into deriving your value and self worth from sex. Once you fall to this delusion, you’re already on the way to becoming an incel.
          Sexuality is the primary thing that separates the living from the dead. Reproduction and the wonderful art and force of nature that surrounds it is something on the same level as eating food and drinking water when it comes to living beings. Even if asexually, all life reproduces. That is what defines life on a material level, does it not?! Go to any scholarly source, and they will mention that recreating itself in some capacity is a defining trait of all living this! Fricking is on the same level as eating, fricking is on the same level as drinking, fricking is on the same level as sleeping, fricking is *important*. You cannot deny this.

          Out of scholarly curiosity, when was the last time you had sex?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Une Chienne Andalou

            >Sexuality is the primary thing that separates the living from the dead.
            Wrong. Even if you leave philosophy out of it, on a scientific level you know that’s not true. All those nuns and monks living in monasteries with a deep sense of purpose are not alive? Surely you must see how absurd this sounds.
            >fricking is *important*. You cannot deny this.
            I never said it has no importance, and for the continuation of the species it is necessary. My claim is that the source of *many* social ills is rooted in sexuality and the majority population’s strange fascination with it. Sexism in particular is rooted in this “necessary evil”. I also do not accept that sex can be put on the same level as food or water if you were to make a hierarchy of needs. You could still have sex on the pyramid, but it must be a tier removed from food and water because those things are actually necessary to continue living, sex is not, this category distinction is undeniable.
            >Out of scholarly curiosity, when was the last time you had sex?
            6 years ago. I consider myself mostly asexual these days lmao. It was not a fun experience and it felt like I was being turned inside out. Absolutely overwhelming (in a bad way) on a sensory level. If oral counts for anything I’ve been active with women too but that was still a few years ago

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The vast majority of asexuals are women. I have wondered why this is. Women generally have a lower sex drive and a narrower, more specific range of stimuli that will arouse it. As well as this, there are a high number of modern illnesses that afflict the sex drives of both men and women, i.e obesity, stress, hormonal disruptors etc. Of course, they could really just be lying. Many "asexual" women are strangely quite sexually active or have been in the past. Maybe it's just a lack of a sufficiently attractive male. Women also have many bizarre attitudes about men and sex due to religion and feminism.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he believes women when they tell him they are asexual
            lol
            lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Astounding lack of reading comprehension

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry, I didn't read the entirety of your post. I just saw the words "asexual" and "women" and just automatically had to point out obvious.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is worth saying, most "asexual" discussion forums revolve around women asking if their whorish behaviour disqualifies then from the nobility and privilege of being part of the LGBTQA+ movement. They are invariably assured that it does not, they can have their cake and eat it too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Wrong. Even if you leave philosophy out of it, on a scientific level you know that’s not true. All those nuns and monks living in monasteries with a deep sense of purpose are not alive? Surely you must see how absurd this sounds.
            Ah yes, I meant to address this point but the reply would've been too long. Not sure why 2-Kilobytes are in such short supply for IQfy but whatever.

            I want you to realize the people that deny sex, like monks and and nuns, also in tandem regularly deny themselves food and drink. Surely this is not a coincidence; that these people whom believe the life beyond life is so important that it will dictate their every movement deny themselves food, drink, and sex.

            >I never said it has no importance, and for the continuation of the species it is necessary.
            >You could still have sex on the pyramid, but it must be a tier removed from food and water because those things are actually necessary to continue living, sex is not, this category distinction is undeniable.
            You believe that survival of the species and survival of an individual are not one in the same. To each individual of each species, their survival and the survival of the species are one in the same. No species is truly genocidal on a mass-scale, nothing but ill individuals of each species wants to see both themselves and all others of their species to die.

            >6 years ago.

            lol that explains it. Have sex.
            i get a lil crazy too when i go without some good dick for a while

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just curious. Are you a man or a woman... Scientifically speaking ?

            Also you wiped the floor with that anon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a homosexual and assigned male at birth. I'm not sure if I'm a particularly effeminate gay male, a trans woman, or something in-between. Heavy fluctuations and likely suffering from BPD and/or schizophrenia.

            Also thanks. I should note I'm an amateur gay pornstar and an avid Gnostic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just curious. Are you a man or a woman... Scientifically speaking ?

            Also you wiped the floor with that anon

            While high as frick might I add. I was fricking blazed writing that shit lmfaoo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I am a homosexual
        >You are right about incels
        Syphilis has rotten your brain already
        Burn yourself

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've unironically never gotten an STI in my life (so far)

          [...]
          [...]
          gays are nasty

          Oh, and if I had a pussy you'd be applauding me?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they are so fixated and obssessed with sex
      That isn't something exclusive to incels. If you have spent any time around normies you will quickly realize they are just as sex obsessed but aren't as upfront about it, and just like incels, their self-worth is tied to their sexual success, and they will put down people who aren't as sexually successful as them to get a sense of superiority. If you don't seem like someone who gets laid, they will mock you behind your back, if you're ever so slightly ugly or socially inept they will refuse to associate with you for "scaring the hoes away" and will always hold it in their minds that you are less of a person because you haven't gotten your dick wet as often as them. Yes, they look down upon (You), no one who browses an anonymous imageboard for the discussion of history and humanities is going to be able to hide the fact that they're autistic and have little to no social or sexual success. There's a reason why so many people won't shut up about "rizz" and care so much about their appearance and status. Incels are merely a symptom, a result, of normie sexual brainrot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Une Chienne Andalou

        >That isn't something exclusive to incels. If you have spent any time around normies you will quickly realize they are just as sex obsessed but aren't as upfront about it, and just like incels, their self-worth is tied to their sexual success, and they will put down people who aren't as sexually successful as them to get a sense of superiority
        Based knower.
        I never said it was exclusive to incels, just that they exhibit this terminal obsession to a significantly higher degree in regards to intensity. Trust me, Normies are just as mindfricked about this. Everything you said is true, except I would qualify it with this: Having a sense of aesthetics and caring about “appearance” in terms of body or fashion is not inherently sexual. Such delusional thinking is what drives moids to believe that women “wear makeup for men”. It is entirely possible to rid yourself of sex-obssessed brainworms and still have deep sense of appreciation for beauty and see beauty as an ideal to embody and practice. In fact, this is actually more pure and elevated than the way incels or mindfricked normies conventionally understand “beauty”.
        >no one who browses an anonymous imageboard for the discussion of history and humanities is going to be able to hide the fact that they're autistic and have little to no social or sexual success
        Hey now, I’m diagnosed with ADD/ADHD but I’m not autistic lmao.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Everything you said is true, except I would qualify it with [cope]
          just admit you were wrong bro lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Une Chienne Andalou

            >cope
            Can you even read? I didn’t even try to refute any of his points, that’s why I said qualify, not debunk/refute, I just added onto something to explain it further because it’s something I think he overlooked

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The existence of every human being is contingent upon the sexual coupling of a male and female.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is here that we see two things, one, why women tend to be in league with trannies, they are the modern incarnation of the eunuch, neutered and easily controlled, and two, further evidence as to why the world would be better if women lost all rights.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sex is the primary motive of everybody you blockhead. Matched perhaps only by survival. Though there are indeed species who will die in the course of mating.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    women wasn't like this at all historically. And the phenomenon of western women sleeping around was encouraged by the men themselves during the liberalization of society starting from the 1950s

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good take, men were stupid and really believe bullshit about the sexual liberation.

      It's funny because he's a delusional moron who's projecting his relationship with his mom onto every single woman in the entire world.

      i love my mom , more than i expected. However, i know that the majority of women are individuals that cant love a male in a selfless and romantic way. But at the same time, the love that a daughter or a mother has to her father/son, is something beyond that equalizes the lack of true romantic love.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Op is just coping with the fact that his life isn't that image but with a line of women.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes women have always loved:
    -alcohol
    -sex
    -money
    -gossip
    -public posturing

    that's all. Women don't even love their kids. Kids are just a tool for them in order to smother them, play the helicopter mom, and delude themselves they are not loathsome.

    You really have to understand women do only 2 things:
    -with men they have sex
    -and among women, they talk about the sex they had with men

    that's 100% the life of a woman .

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my mom doesn't love me!
      lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based response

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tbf lack of mother is the cause for a lot of cases of misogyny

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based response

        why is it funny, the only reason he hates women is because they hate him for no good reason, or do you just like hurting innocent people or something, you want conscious beings to exist just to be made to suffer, that's just demonic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's funny because he's a delusional moron who's projecting his relationship with his mom onto every single woman in the entire world.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not him, but I have the opposite problem, my mother loves me too much.

        >hole that is a centimetre away from where she pissed
        >hole that is an inch and a half away from where she shits and farts from
        >hole that bleeds one a month,

        Yup, totally fresh and sterile place until a penis entered it.

        It's as much about ownership as it is purity. If I'm just another guy on this fricking highway rest-stop of a vegana what's point? Ditto for not getting any legal say when it comes to my spouse. You barely get any say with children, who are regardless enslaved to the government.

        Lmao do westoid incels even know how had arranged patriarchal marriages of their past worked? If you want a wife, you buy it from its parents. It's not like you can go to any unmarried woman and ask it for sex and it will give it to you just because it's le patriarchate, quite the opposite.
        t. shitskin

        Still a better system that what currently exists, dowry and all. Also, it's the Patriarchy, Juan.
        And after the marriage is done, you get at least some legal power over your woman. Though brothers are a worry.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Women don't like sex much and only have it because they have to or because they want money (gold diggers).

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    didn't meant to derail this thread, but I've a doubt regarding ethics. Is it all ethics just arbitrary as in if the majority or the ones holding power wants something to be ethical, it just is? Here's a situation to think about. Why is it ok for women to decide which man's genes should survive and which one's should be eradicated from the genepool? can a man do the same by whatever means necessary, including outright physical murder? I mean, the urge to ensure genetic survival(the urge to reproduce) and physical survival (the urge for immediate survival such as thirst, hunger, etc.)is what drives all of life and the societies it forms.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you can’t seduce a woman something is seriously wrong with you and you probably shouldn’t spread your genes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If you can’t seduce a woman something is seriously wrong with you and you probably shouldn’t spread your genes
        u clearly are not answering my question. I'll ask it again. Who in the world gets to decide whose genes should survive and whose shouldn't?
        Also, how do u explain fisherian runaway where female choice liteallly lead to extinction of certain species?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not him, but it's hilarious how you pretend to be concerned with some sociological issue when it's obvious that you're just seething that you can't get laid.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nah, I'm just curious as to what's fair and what isn't. Women constantly preach "my booty my choice", but when it comes to divorce settlement a man can't claim "my money my choice". U clearly are trying to dodge the hypocrisy at play. The fact that i'm an incel or a chad has nothing to do with this.
            >Yeah women get to decide, but men also have the choice of becoming someone who can seduce a woman.
            lol, wut about le 5'2 balding indian janitor or that bagelcel who complained about getting rejected non stop in dating apps, so much so that a girl told him to khs for being such a midget. Is all justa power game in life. Is ethics merely a memetic weapon to subdue the mass and get what u want? Were the post modernists right when they said that it's all about power games? the answer seems to be yes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the second answer in here is meant for

            Yeah women get to decide, but men also have the choice of becoming someone who can seduce a woman. I would bet you that most men actually had to make a conscious effort to become a man that women want to sleep with and in most cases it wasn’t an accident.
            Took time and focused effort to achieve that goal.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh height
            Is this an American meme? Women don't really care about it where I'm from. Funnily enough, the biggest ladies man out of all my coworkers is like 165cm while the biggest incel in the workplace is 2 meters tall.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what c**try do u live in?
            >Is this an American meme?
            nah, it's a human meme that's true in all human societies.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah women get to decide, but men also have the choice of becoming someone who can seduce a woman. I would bet you that most men actually had to make a conscious effort to become a man that women want to sleep with and in most cases it wasn’t an accident.
          Took time and focused effort to achieve that goal.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Who in the world gets to decide whose genes should survive and whose shouldn't?
          It's not a conscious action on behalf of any individual, it's nature taking its course. So nature decides.
          >how do u explain fisherian runaway where female choice liteallly lead to extinction of certain species?
          Every adaptive mechanism can still have bad outcomes in 0.001% of cases, doesn't mean it's maladaptive.

          >we are going back to the 80/20 rule
          good fricking luck trying to crush an incel uprising comprising of the bottom 80% of the men.
          >as nature intended.
          what is natural?? Is it a force something beyond one's control?

          >good fricking luck trying to crush an incel uprising
          This would be just another conflict between males competing for females, nothing that hasn't already happened countless times at various scales. It wouldn't magically make females genuinely desire short ugly men.
          >what is natural?? Is it a force something beyond one's control?
          One individual can make an effort to control their urges. Like you can stop yourself from getting a boner for a hot girl if you try really hard. You might even be able to get it up and frick an ugly woman if you try hard enough. But most people are not gonna try, they will go with the flow of their urges. So, collectively, it truly is beyond anyone's control.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Every adaptive mechanism can still have bad outcomes in 0.001% of cases, doesn't mean it's maladaptive.
            Like monogomy?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Monogamy is probably better long-term than 1 chad breeding 10 females, leaving 9 incels to seethe with rage (which is beginning to happen on a mass scale). But there's nothing anyone can do to change womens (or mens) sexual desires.

            >So, collectively, it truly is beyond anyone's control.
            rape was considered to be "out of everyone's control" back in the good ol days. It can even be argued that it's natural in the animal kingdom. But it did get curbed because of civilization, govt and law enforcement. So clearly, we do have massive influence in some aspects of "nature".
            >It's not a conscious action on behalf of any individual, it's nature taking its course. So nature decides.
            but one can change it's course. Not completely, but to a sufficient extent where almost every man gets laid.
            >So, collectively, it truly is beyond anyone's control.
            lol.

            >rape was considered to be "out of everyone's control" back in the good ol days. It can even be argued that it's natural in the animal kingdom. But it did get curbed because of civilization
            Rape has been punished since the start of recorded history. It is a violent attack that demands reprisal from the female's kin, always has been. Regardless, rapists still rape when they see an opportunity - only overwhelming force can deter them. As soon as the force recedes, they will rape again.
            This is exactly the same as women's desires being suppressed for a couple thousand years via institutionalized monogamy. Notice what happened when religion became meaningless in society - we are here.
            >one can change it's course. Not completely, but to a sufficient extent where almost every man gets laid.
            Suppressing rapists' urges by force did not take away their rapist nature. Notice how rapists are still punished despite monogamy being in a freefall. We never needed monogamy to prevent mass rape, only the deterrent of other men's wrath.

            >So, collectively, it truly is beyond anyone's control.
            don't women have their own collective clique and quite successful in pushing their agenda be it reducing the amount of rapes by undesired incels, creation of cryobank repositories housing top dog semen, "gender pay gap", etc., etc., etc.. If anything they with the help of other influential people in society are quite literally calling the shots and deciding what's right and what isn't.

            Women weren't the ones who suddenly made rape illegal recently, it has always been a mortally punishable offense if the culprit was known.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Rape has been punished since the start of recorded history.
            >since the start of recorded history.
            u're just reiterating the point I'd/ made. "Natural" behaviour can be controlled and that means the 80/20 rule can also be dealt with.
            >Notice how rapists are still punished despite monogamy being in a freefall
            because the people in power have the means to punish it as u'd said with the phrase"eterrent of other men's wrath". But if sufficient enough men lose faith in such beliefs, "nature" will take its course. But that doesn't mean it's collectively beyond anyone's control. It's just that sufficient amount of folks see no merit or use in such an arrangemetn that they'd rather allow nature to take it's course.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So, collectively, it truly is beyond anyone's control.
            rape was considered to be "out of everyone's control" back in the good ol days. It can even be argued that it's natural in the animal kingdom. But it did get curbed because of civilization, govt and law enforcement. So clearly, we do have massive influence in some aspects of "nature".
            >It's not a conscious action on behalf of any individual, it's nature taking its course. So nature decides.
            but one can change it's course. Not completely, but to a sufficient extent where almost every man gets laid.
            >So, collectively, it truly is beyond anyone's control.
            lol.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So, collectively, it truly is beyond anyone's control.
            don't women have their own collective clique and quite successful in pushing their agenda be it reducing the amount of rapes by undesired incels, creation of cryobank repositories housing top dog semen, "gender pay gap", etc., etc., etc.. If anything they with the help of other influential people in society are quite literally calling the shots and deciding what's right and what isn't.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my question could also be rephrased in this manner I suppose. Y is genetic murder ok but physical murder isn't? Y is it acceptable(but increasingly not due to the rise of incels) by society to end the genetic life of a man? Life is life and genetic survival is merely an extension of physical survival.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you blame the women? Men are pursuing them. I wouldn’t want a woman to be mad about my number of past partners, if she’s hot she’s going to have a few too. Not a big deal.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The modern human population is the result of the minority of men who have ever lived reproducing with the majority of women who have ever lived. It's clearly established through Y-DNA analysis - most males are descended from a small number of males from the subsequent generations. This mirrors the reproductive behavior of almost all mammals, which makes sense as we are mammals.

    Monogamy really only started very recently in human history, and it has never been successfully implemented. There has always been adultery and shit, we've simply been pretending it exists to keep sub-5 men happy. Now that automation and technology is quickly making sub-5 men obsolete, down to their labor (the last bargaining chip they had), we are going back to the 80/20 rule as nature intended.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we are going back to the 80/20 rule
      good fricking luck trying to crush an incel uprising comprising of the bottom 80% of the men.
      >as nature intended.
      what is natural?? Is it a force something beyond one's control?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're not only suppressing the incel well, but they're making a profit out of it. Why else is onlyfans so popular?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AI and also this is a runaway process. Porn and sedatives is only viable in the short term. Some people are not placated by the bread and circuses, some people get tired of them, some just snap even with bread and circuses. Not to mention shit like birthrate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hahahaha
      >Monogamy really only started very recently in human history,
      dude, monogamy is literal a core for any civilization to start, sure thing, 10000 years maybe be a short time in comparison to the existence of the homosexual sapiens but it only shows that monogamy is the civilized option. Of course, adultery always existed, jsut as there always were robbers, killers, delinquents, gangsters, no human is perfect, the difference is that nowadays women can have a choice thanks to technology that allows them to integrate in the production force and have rights over the State or goverment.
      >we are going back to the 80/20 rule as nature intended.
      nature is shit dude, look at Australia, too many "nature evolved" creatures being slaughtered by little animals mutated over human desire.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course, we just were wiser and knew how to put veils on their heads and kick their asses when they misbehaved

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is she still childless?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man, i wish i had sex

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao do westoid incels even know how had arranged patriarchal marriages of their past worked? If you want a wife, you buy it from its parents. It's not like you can go to any unmarried woman and ask it for sex and it will give it to you just because it's le patriarchate, quite the opposite.
    t. shitskin

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, obviously not. Monogamy, taboo against "fornication" aka sex outside of marriage, and bawd shaming are a compound social technology that disallows exactly this. Downside for men is you might get stuck with one insufferable and/or ugly girl, but it strongly enforces assurance that your children are your own and women are loyal to you and your household.

    The vast majority of women, at least in Europe, who were not prostitutes, had sex with 1-3 men in their lives. A good chunk probably only fricking their husbands they married in their teens to early 20s, if both lived long enough. Obviously exceptions are abound, but it's hard to get away with too much cheating or sleeping around when loose lips can permanently destroy your reputation forever. I'd say the latter is modernly analogous to a contemporary girl doing an OF. Some do it, but many that would are very scared of it hurting their reputation, or quit because they get spooked of such and denounce their past.

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