Historically, Why were there no Arabic Bibles before the rise of islam?

Historically, Why were there no Arabic Bibles before the rise of islam?

and to add why were there no good/long Arabic texts before islam and the Quran? Arabs played a part in the Middle East for a long time and had their own kingdoms, why weren't there any noticeable texts?

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  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    their prophet was illiterate, what do you think?

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >why were there no good/long Arabic texts before islam and the Quran?
    oh there were. but maybe put two and two together

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >oh there were
      Most of the Bibles done by the Arabs were in Greek or syriac and small texts carved on rocks is still very little to go off of

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >anon has never heard of book burning

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          source?

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            it got burned

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'm gonna fricking burn your ass for spreading outlandish claims without citing a fricking source, Black person.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            youre asking good questions
            >where are all the other works of classical arabic?
            >did the quran just spring up out of nowhere without a literary tradition?
            and the answer is that obviously things dont spring up out of nowhere
            Early Muslims purged Arabic literature which didnt affirm Islam.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            The Quran is so widely divergent from the literal account of the Bible that it makes very little sense to believe that it was made by a person who actually read the Bible. It would make more sense to believe it was made by a person who heard snippets about important stories and lessons from both the Tanakh and the New Testament, combining the two of them together, most likely a person who got it from travelling Christian and israeli merchants who would've been willing to talk about bits of their religions' lore to pagans.
            We know for a fact that Arabic was spoken over a wide geographical range in ancient times, as far south as modern-day Yemen and as far north as modern-day Syria and Iraq, so it may have been possible for certain Arabic speakers to also be literate Syriac speakers, even if the people of Muhammad's own tribe did not know how to write in the 7th century CE.
            It's not exactly unusual for people to be willing to write in one language, seen as the language of high culture, but also to be unwilling to write in their native language, the language of low culture.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            This is like saying Mormon scripture is so divergent from the Bible the author clearly never read the Bible.
            Have you considered that new cult leaders might have very conscious reasons for changing or misconstruing previous religious teachings?

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            something like that but don't forget the pagan upbringing of his tribe. deceitful or not he had also his own cultural bias.
            you don't get rid of your old religion like that. it takes generations to shift archetypes if ever.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            next time try telling him about how Muslim chroniclers record that the scolls from the Library of Alexandria fed the fires of the public baths for six months

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            Source is them still book burning and destroying art and monuments to this day. This isn't even 2 and 2, it's putting 1 and 1 together.

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            The actions of moronic islamist today cant be put onto how they acted back then

            even if this was true why arent there any mention or references to an Arabic bible by others?

          • 7 days ago
            Anonymous

            The first Muslims were moronic Islamists though.
            Which why they created the largest Islamic state to ever exist.
            They were on a roll trying to burn and conquer everything, beginning in Arabia itself.

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's actually an open question where there was ever a pre-islamic Arabic Bible. One could ostensibly be discovered, and it wouldn't be considered a historical impossibility, though it would obviously be a very groundbreaking find, for obvious reasons. The oldest known Arabic translation of any part of the Bible is a translation of the book of Acts and Paul's epistles that is dated to AD 867.

    It wouldn't be beyond possibility that an Arabic translation existed that was even older than this. In Xinjiang, archaeologists found a fragments of a Middle Persian Bible translation of the Psalms that seems to be based on the Syriac, and it dated to the 500s or 600s. It's called the Pahlavi Psalter.

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I think its extremely funny how to this day indians keep passing down knowledge through oral lessons, but in youtube.

    When you ask yourself why every tutorial is made by an indian, this is why.

    Upanishad literally means "sitting down by a teacher".

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Quran is the first real Arabic book. Christians of the Near East used Aramaic and there's evidence the Quran (or at least large portions of it) was originally an Aramaic text.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >there's evidence
      may we see it?

  6. 7 days ago
    Radiochan

    Arabic israelites and Christians quoted Biblical passages in Arabic but there doesn't seem to be evidence of a full Bible. Muhammed was supposed to have been exposed to Nestorian monks and as a businessman in a busy merchant town he probably would have had a vague understanding of things.

    This is a pretty interesting book on the subject anyway. https://themarginaliareview.com/arabic-bible-islam/

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