How did such a prolific practice like the mannerbund which can be attested from India to Ireland for a millenia completely drop off the face of the ea...

How did such a prolific practice like the mannerbund which can be attested from India to Ireland for a millenia completely drop off the face of the earth with no surviving tradition?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The greater number of people in a tribe; the less advantageous this practice is. It's tautological. Asking why a tradition drops off the face of the earth; clearly it was not advantageous due to massive societal changes.
    Said changes we can figure are a shift to large scale societies.
    Now, "no surviving tradition" is a stupid claim; civilization preserved sports and fitness clubs; which at various times men took extremely seriously. This is probably a similar phenomenon, but without the connotations of violent conquest.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's made up by homosexuals

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >How did such a prolific practice like the mannerbund which can be attested from India to Ireland for a millenia completely drop off the face of the earth with no surviving tradition?
      It never existed OP.
      It's just a rightwing chud fantasy for dimwits who saw Fight Club too many times.

      Instant brown cope and meltdown

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't these just smaller street gangs? Not the kind where it lasts for generations and has initiates and major drug dealing and shit. Just the ones where some people get together and form a gang and mark out a stomping ground in which to do petty crime.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Easy: men have less testosterone than they did previously.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Man bunda? It’s alive and well I’m Brazil!

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >In the Ossetic tradition, there exists a compulsory traditional initiation into manhood, which involves a military expedition known as the "бaлc", which lasts for about 1-2 years. Men join the military during the spring feast dedicated to Tutyr, Uastyrdzhi and Warhag, the deities of wolves and warriors, which occurs during the Varkazana (the "month of men-wolves"; October–November) in the Old Ossetian Calendar.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't these just smaller street gangs? Not the kind where it lasts for generations and has initiates and major drug dealing and shit. Just the ones where some people get together and form a gang and mark out a stomping ground in which to do petty crime.

      Maybe OP is asking why non-ethnic men living in first world western countries dont form mannerbunds anymore

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you know männerbund just means band of men right?
    yes there have always been bands of men, and it didnt drop of the face of the earth at all, there is a männerbund close to my apartment building that tries to sell me cannabis on my way home constantly

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How did such a prolific practice like the mannerbund which can be attested from India to Ireland for a millenia completely drop off the face of the earth with no surviving tradition?
    It never existed OP.
    It's just a rightwing chud fantasy for dimwits who saw Fight Club too many times.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >okay sure this exact same social structure with the exact same theology shows up in every culture descended from this one group of people, but something something history ended so it doesn't count
      huh?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        there is no theological dimension to it and the guy who coined the term used it to describe east african initiation rituals

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >there is no theological dimension to it
          Yes there is.

          >the guy who coined the term used it to describe east african initiation rituals
          Really? Could you cite the source where Stig Wikander talked about anything to do with Africa? I'd love to see this, just like I'd love to see Dumezil's lost stuff on China.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Heinrich Schurtz coined it in 1902 in his book "Altersklassen und Männerbünde".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So you're referring to something different, not the Indo-European Koryos. So, it's not that it doesn't exist, which you originally argued, or that it's actually just a universal phenomena, it's that you're referring to a completely different social phenomena than what everyone else in the thread is talking about.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not the guy who said it doesnt exist. Maybe start calling it Koryos from now on if you want to avoid further confusion.
            This is like the whole prejudice + power thing all over again.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Maybe start calling it Koryos from now on
            We do, people like the dude that he's arguing with have a melty about how there were no PIE just like there are no Celts and Slavs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            See what I mean?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >See what I mean?
            You have no valid argument.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            idk man he BTFOd you pretty good

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >idk man he BTFOd you pretty good
            That isn't a valid argument anon. I'm still waiting for one from you. You haven't addressed anything.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Correct, you do lack an argument. This isn't a debate, we're not arguing, you're just wrong. I pointed out where you are wrong, and that made you upset. You can either step away from the keyboard and correct your ignorance, or you can keep being wrong. But if you choose the latter, you'll keep being mad, and people will continue to laugh at you, and you will have no one to blame but yourself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Correct, you do lack an argument. This isn't a debate, we're not arguing, you're just wrong. I pointed out where you are wrong, and that made you upset. You can either step away from the keyboard and correct your ignorance, or you can keep being wrong. But if you choose the latter, you'll keep being mad, and people will continue to laugh at you, and you will have no one to blame but yourself.
            That doesn't at all address how your ultra-vague "groups of men" is somehow an ancient PIE tradition.
            You're consistently saying nothing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >"groups of men"
            Well, yeah? That's not what it is. Given that you're totally new to these topics I don't see why you didn't just look this stuff up before having an opinion. There's even a wikipedia article on this topic.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*K%C3%B3ryos

            A good book on the subject is Kris Kershaw's The One-Eyed God. He goes through a bunch of the evidence in finer detail than the wikipedia article does.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not an argument! You still don't have an argument!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Did you respond to the wrong post? That was my first post in the thread I don't see what this has to do with what I said. As the other anon said no one is arguing with you, we're just telling you the facts.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There's even a wikipedia article on this topic.
            No shit, already read it.
            >Kris Kershaw's The One-Eyed God.
            A book you read simply because it's free online and you're too poor to purchase books.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >already read it.
            No you didn't, you said so in

            >Correct, you do lack an argument. This isn't a debate, we're not arguing, you're just wrong. I pointed out where you are wrong, and that made you upset. You can either step away from the keyboard and correct your ignorance, or you can keep being wrong. But if you choose the latter, you'll keep being mad, and people will continue to laugh at you, and you will have no one to blame but yourself.
            That doesn't at all address how your ultra-vague "groups of men" is somehow an ancient PIE tradition.
            You're consistently saying nothing.

            .

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >No you didn't, you said so in
            Literally just groups of men.
            I read it. It's typical PIE crap.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It still survives, to some degree. If you're asking why in Europe, well that's easy, israelite worship.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Urbanization, the evolution of finance and organized militaries. Pretty straightforward stuff when you think about it.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    relevant shitpost

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How did such a prolific practice like the mannerbund which can be attested from India to Ireland for a millenia completely drop off the face of the earth with no surviving tradition?
    Because you are calling multiple completely different traditions from different times the exact same thing when they weren't.
    This is pure PIE theory bullshit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >these things are related but um they actually aren’t at all because I say so
      Farmbaboon ape. Rabble

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        things are related but um they actually aren’t at all because I say so
        >Farmbaboon ape. Rabble
        Well they aren't related in anything but the fact that they involve groups of men. So that's like saying Milk is wine because you drink them both.

        So you're referring to something different, not the Indo-European Koryos. So, it's not that it doesn't exist, which you originally argued, or that it's actually just a universal phenomena, it's that you're referring to a completely different social phenomena than what everyone else in the thread is talking about.

        >So you're referring to something different, not the Indo-European Koryos
        There is no Indo-European Koryos. It's nothing more than PIE bullshit. I am sick and tired of double checking claims that some obscure Indian practice is the same as some Obscure Iranian or Western European practice and finding at that it's complete bullshit.
        Koryos exists but it isn't some universal Indo-European practice.

        >Maybe start calling it Koryos from now on
        We do, people like the dude that he's arguing with have a melty about how there were no PIE just like there are no Celts and Slavs.

        >We do, people like the dude that he's arguing with have a melty about how there were no PIE just like there are no Celts and Slavs.
        What the frick? PIE theory is nothing more than a linguistic theory. It isn't reality.
        Celts and Slavs definitely existed as separate cultural and genetic groups.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >PIE theory is nothing more than a linguistic theory
          lmfao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >lmfao
            Once again not a valid argument.
            You PIE morons never have one.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Celts and Slavs definitely existed as separate cultural and genetic groups.
          No they didn't you fricking shill. There is no evidence of "Celts" or "Slavs" ever existing. They're linguistic classifications and nothing more.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >No they didn't you fricking shill.
            Yes they did you fricking shill.

            >There is no evidence of "Celts" or "Slavs" ever existing.
            You have a very separate Celtic Culture archeologically speaking that is different from the Germanic and Slavic Cultures going back hundreds of years before Christ.
            The pagan gods are different too.
            This isn't even debatable.
            >They're linguistic classifications and nothing more.
            Completely wrong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's no evidence for Celtic or Slavic genetics and archaeological culture that don't also indicate PIE genetics and archaeological culture.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There's no evidence for Celtic or Slavic genetics
            There is actually. They also inhabited completely difference parts of Europe up until the introduction of Christianity.

            >archaeological culture
            You never find depictions of Celtic gods in Ancient slavic graves. Also ancient west Russian Dolmens have libation holes where as Celtic and Germanic Dolmens almost never do.
            I could go on forever with the differences.

            >don't also indicate PIE genetics and archaeological culture.
            There is no such thing as PIE genetics and culture.
            You guys haven't even decided who your imaginary PIE people are.
            What's your theory?
            Urheimat hypotheses, Pontic-Caspian steppe hypothesis, Armenian highland hypothesis or Anatolian hypothesis?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >archaeological culture
            Another example is that Slavs didn't use runes and didn't have a pre - Christian writing system but the Germanics and Celts did.
            The La Tène art style of the Celts from the Iron age is never found amongst the slavs etc.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I heared some kind of "carnival" festivities where people go around in disguises &/or asking for money among Europe might be derived from this kind of groups raiding the areas and asking for bribes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >halloween is from the undead coming to collect your afterlife taxes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        didn't mean halloween, mongoloid

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Männerbünde
    The name is a hint.
    What's more likely, a tradition existing simulatenously in places like Ireland to India unbroken for millennia or a bunch of Prussian historians making shit up to stroke their Junker egos

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The dude who noticed the phenomena was a Swede, not Prussian, so where is Prussia necessary?

  15. 1 month ago
    Radiochan

    it didn't, it's still around, if you know how to look for it

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Karelian EHG reconstruction mongoloid phenotype
    Pygmoid babble

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And the PIE idiots go silent, how predictable.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mannerbund is a meme
    You could find exemples in many other cultures

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