How do I stop fearing death, scientifically

How do I stop fearing death, scientifically

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What have you tried?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depression and anxiety meds (not specifically for that, though)
      Some meditation, although I admit this could be explored much more
      Philosophy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Try meds like NSI-189 that specifically grow the amygdala.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Research NDEs or engross yourself in nihilism

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By realizing that you are just using the fear of something abstract and formless as a crutch to avoid confronting concrete reality and your fear of being an actual living body in a cold hard world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds plausible. Okay, so how do I get rid/cope with THAT fear?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Set goals, plot plans, act accordingly, review results, repeat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >death is abstract
      No.
      Death has no quiddity. It's not abstract at all.
      Don't confuse lack of reportable experience with lack of actual occurrence.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't confuse lack of reportable experience with lack of actual occurrence.
        nta and I agree that we don't know how and when we can exactly continue to exist in some form. not so scared about dying as of the pain, and knowing I won't be here to share these times with known ones/family, and general monkey brain afraid of unknown.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Try not thinking about it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just turn your brain off bro
      Has this been peer reviewed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It works about 90% of the time or more. The issue is the remaining 10% where it doesn't.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you just died then you wouldn't have to fear it anymore.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds pretty scientific

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You already managed to exist at minimum one time so far. That means the probability of you existing is greater than 0.
    Before and after now,an infinite amount of (standardised) time passed.
    Thus, it is entirely in the realm of possibilities and even likely that at some point your sentience will reform in some way. Likely with a 'wiped' memory though,just like this time you started existing. And with no guarantee of being a creature of comparable intellect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not "my" sentience if it's wiped. What makes it me at this point?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you weren't you in all the situations you simply don't remember?

        Counting from 0 on allows each value to appear exactly once despite infinite amount of values to be passed in the process. Why would you ever encounter the exact same number ever again if its just an infinite process playing out?

        Why do you think it is more accurate to compare the universe with counting from 0 to infinity than using probabilities for certain events?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't matter if I was, it's not 1 or 0, more like N/A. Essentially death. The only reason why I am not dead is that there are other moments I do remember, thus the chain of continuity of existence. The moment this chain is broken, that's it. And yes, a total memory wipe like in Men in Black is ontologically the same as death for me at this point in time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And yes, a total memory wipe like in Men in Black is ontologically the same as death for me at this point in time.
            So to you people who are brain damaged and basically forget everything they ever experienced should be assigned a new identity, despite them having verifiably done things with what basically is the same sentient existence?

            Your argument was based on an "infinite amount of (standardised) time" and the idea of an infinite amount of time is derived from the boundless count which never actually reproduces the same number because of any probability.

            An infinite amount of time passes, sure - that you can count. But how do you map the dimension of time to matter, which is constantly being changed and molded? Especially when considering whacky shit like quantum physics.

            >and human minds uploaded into machines,
            hate to break it to you but he doesn't really understand that subject. humans won't ever be ran in digital space, apart from academic or research reasons. it's extremely expensive. you're barely getting jack shit from whatever country you live in, no way you'll get the required hardware and energy to what..."be happy"? that's so fricking moronic you have no fricking idea

            >humans won't ever be ran in digital space
            With the value of digital twinning there is a huge incentive to try to upload peoples brains. It's likely gonna be a deep copy though, so if you somehow manage to get that copy to be sentient it'll likely be a separate entity.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >With the value of digital twinning there is a huge incentive to try to upload peoples brains.
            listen you fricking imbeciles, make the distinction between uploading to a different media for storage, in non-active form, and being active in a digital world. these two are not the same, and imply wildly different things
            so tired of your moronic childish idiotic takes that are not even your fricking own ideas because you don't understand jack shit about jack shit you primitive scared apes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your argument was based on an "infinite amount of (standardised) time" and the idea of an infinite amount of time is derived from the boundless count which never actually reproduces the same number because of any probability.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The number line is infinite, like time
            However, the amount of matter in space is not

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Irrelevant, (You) is not just some amount of matter.

            I would be interested in knowing how much matter you think there is and how many possible combinations that leads to in order to estimate some average amount of time you are saying it would take to repeat the entire existence of (You).

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is no (You), (You) are whatever combination of materia which is capable of processing information

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Counting from 0 on allows each value to appear exactly once despite infinite amount of values to be passed in the process. Why would you ever encounter the exact same number ever again if its just an infinite process playing out?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ruin your own life to the point death looks preferable.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Realize that "death" is just your atoms being reorganized in a certain way that your organs stop functioning the way they do. Scientifically speaking.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now, Ānanda, one who says: “feeling is my self” should be told:
    “There are three kinds of feelings, friend: pleasant, painful, and
    neither pleasant not painful. Which of the three do you consider
    to be your self?” When a pleasant feeling is felt, no painful or
    neither pleasant not painful feelings is felt, but only pleasant
    feelings. When a painful feelings is felt, no pleasant or neither
    pleasant not painful feeling is felt, but only a painful feeling. And
    when a neither pleasant not painful feeling is felt, no pleasant or
    painful feeling.
    A pleasant feeling is impermanent, conditioned, dependently
    arisen, bound to decay, to vanish, to fade away, to cease – and so
    too is a painful feeling and a neither pleasant not painful feeling.
    So anyone who, on experiencing a pleasant feeling, thinks, “This
    is my self,” must, at the cessation of that pleasant feeling think:
    “My self has gone!” and the same with a painful and a neither
    pleasant not painful feeling. Thus whoever thinks: “feeling is my
    self” is contemplating something in this present life that is
    impermanent, a mixture of happiness and unhappiness, subject to
    arising and passing away. Therefore it is not fitting to maintain:
    “feeling is my self.” (DN 15 ii66-7).

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The energy/matter making the computation that is you will persist eternally, it will just make different computations that are equally complex after you're gone. It will be unimaginably different but it will be equivalently complex.

    2kg of hydrogen gas and 2kg of human brain both make computations of equivalent complexity.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the Buddha’s teaching, “the self” is a presumption (maññita), a cognitive
    fabrication (saṅkhāra) that we conceive and then take as real. The Buddha had
    a low regard for presumption:
    Presumption is a disease, presumption is a tumor, presumption is
    a dart. By overcoming all presumptions, bhikkhu, one is called a
    sage at peace. And the sage at peace is not born, does not age,
    does not die; he is not shaken and does not yearn. For there is
    nothing present in him by which he might be born.
    (MN 140 iii246)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the Buddha’s teaching
      Reading words on a screen does not structurally change one's mind. Only a mind-blowing experience can solve our recurrent anxiety.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Death is the worst thing that can happen to life, refuse to cope.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-techies-wet-dreams

      > The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased.[22] Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive;[23] consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-propagating systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire[24] is nothing but a pipe-dream.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and human minds uploaded into machines,
        hate to break it to you but he doesn't really understand that subject. humans won't ever be ran in digital space, apart from academic or research reasons. it's extremely expensive. you're barely getting jack shit from whatever country you live in, no way you'll get the required hardware and energy to what..."be happy"? that's so fricking moronic you have no fricking idea

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's extremely expensive. you're barely getting jack shit from whatever country you live in
          Start saving money for it then, moron? Did you think the government was gonna pay for uploading millions of Mbungus? LOL

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    find out more abt cosmos and how vast it is

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    at most death is the loss of your information, from outside perspective. from yours who tf knows. theoretically after you "die" here you should experience whatever is possible for you. no matter how far away in the future. if possible. I think that's what the cryo crowd is trying to accomplish.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can stop fearing entirely if you get your amygdala surgically removed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdalotomy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M._(patient)

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Start hating life

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are organizations researching a cure for aging, effectively leading to the possibility of immortality. If you want to support anti-aging research, you can donate.

    https://www.levf.org/

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    listen to Alan Watts lectures

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    get close to dying like 10 times and you wont give a shit afterwards

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can confirm this isn't true. I give a shit, but in like a petty way where I want to live as long as possible just to spite the Reaper and when I eventually go out I'll be flipping him the bird with both hands if I have any sort of warning.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sounds like you dont fear death anymore

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lexapro

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fearing death is silly as it going to happen whether you want to or not.
    planning to attempt to avoid the long drawn out pain and suffering that comes before many deaths; that is something worthy of attention.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So you failed your zen meditation?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine your heart giving out. Must be horrifying in the moment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Cult of Passion

      Or feel it stop and know exactly what was happening.

      I can recount the exact moment my back vertebrae, L4-S1, turned to gravel, when the IED exploded. I dodnt remember my foot (L heel shattered, part sticking out the bottom, R cracked).

      Passenger got rekt, everyone else knocked out except me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Cult of Passion

      The adrenaline would temporarily give you "hyper-reality" awareness, so you feel attacks in far greater detail than you do in normal life.

      ++ if youre on drugs, or a lot, because the bloodrush pumps a shitton more drugs into your brain, or a police stop, straight to Heaven's Gate. Many a street skinny fightin' the popo.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    would you be as afraid as you'd be of dying if someone told you he's gonna punch your head (very precisely) such that you'll forget everything you have experienced for the last year? would it be as frightening?
    what about 2 years? what about 20? when are you starting to fear that punch as much as you'd fear dying from some heart attack?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe less so, but still pretty fricking afraid. It would essentially be semi-death to me. Even if it's just one year, I learned a lot and wiping it clean now would be a huge fricking detriment and very disorienting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I learned a lot and wiping it clean now would be a huge fricking detriment and very disorienting.
        Clearly, I don't disagree with you. I'd always choose the punch. I'd just lose some % and still get to live. Of-course supposing the punch is so precise that it can't do more or less damage than exactly losing a full year in the past. No contest better than dying. But it feels like a bit of dying when you think about it. At least for me. And the more you go back the more dies. But even if wiped clean, still glad I'd live, still better than dying.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you'll forget everything you have experienced for the last year?
      that's what the old 1950s 1960s EST would do to brains.
      t. had a parent who had EST who's frontal lobe was rekt from it.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do I stop fearing death, scientifically
    Die. If you're dead you can no longer fear death, you have conquered it.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    death is at least eject from these times, possibly from all. but at least from these

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spirituality
    >how do I use the rules of the physical world to come to terms with cessation in the physical world

    Never let your opponent set the pace. In any fight, any resistance, you should seek to set the tone.
    Never let your opposition determine the rules unless you're willing to lose in order to make a point

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    death is less scary than the decay of aging tbh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      decay if aging is death itself

      https://i.imgur.com/opV5pTg.png

      How do I stop fearing death, scientifically

      You make it your scientific task to overcome it, so it becomes a journey, evoking excitement instead of fear (not the perspective of death shall excite you, but the subject of it, because soon you find that the problem of aging and death is quite solvable, and you were born just in the right time. And so you realize that other people have already solved it, so you participate in solving other causes of sudden death. And when we solve that, we shall focus on bringing back those whom the preserved bodies used to be, and my guess is at that really near moment, all israelites move (I suspect them to be moved there by christians and muslims who would be puppeteered by rabbis, of course) to fulfil the profecy, so that the world doesn't notice as much that what israelites taught the world was purely bullshit, so they can present it as if it was some ancient form of predictive programming, leading the humanity (literally Son of Man (children of Adam)) to such perfection that, just as was predicted, corpses are resurrected. I suspect all that to be my prediction of events which shall take place in this century.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By worshipping it, as in, the worship of life in the moment.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kys. Without life, there is no fear of death

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    get married and you'll wish you were dead

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Benzodiazepines

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By killing yourself.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are studies that show that reading about or listening to NDEs lessens or removes the fear of death entirely. And NDEs are unironically irrefutable proof that heaven really is awaiting us because (1) people see things during their NDEs when they are out of their bodies that they should not be able to under the assumption that the brain creates consciousness, and (2) anyone can have an NDE and everyone is convinced by it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o

    So any atheist would be too, so pic related is literally irrefutable proof of life after death. As one NDEr pointed out:

    >"I'm still trying to fit it in with this dream that I'm walking around in, in this world. The reality of the experience is undeniable. This world that we live in, this game that we play called life is almost a phantom in comparison to the reality of that."

    If NDEs were hallucinations somehow then extreme atheists and neuroscientists who had NDEs would maintain that they were halluinations after having them. But the opposite happens as NDEs convince every skeptic when they have a really deep NDE themselves.

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