How do platonists respond?

How do platonists respond?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's not how platonism works, buddy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But that is how physics works. No forms needed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you understand what "forms" mean here?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes I wrote that sentence. Do you understand what I meant?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the philosopher king will announce your execution because you're a waste for society

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Platonists are too dumb to parse this passage kek. They literally can't comprehend actual philosophy since Plato was an inept playwright who couldn't hold a candle to the Greek tragedians so he coped out by writing his shitty worthless thoughts in dialogue form. If someone proudly introduces himself as a Platonist I immediately assume they haven't read much philosophy and still less modern philosophy outside of Plato and they definitely know next to nothing about science and mathematics

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only people who still care about Plato are guenontards

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao nice try at swallowing the entire Greek tradition under your arbitrary fotm homo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy cope

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >weak inept playwrite
      on what basis or proof are you making that claim?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >read much philosophy and still less modern philosophy outside of Plato and they definitely know next to nothing about science and mathematics
      These are all pointless anyway tbh

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Say it with me
    INDIVIDUALS FORM GENERALS
    GENERALS NEVER FORM INDIVIDUALS

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does it matter if physical phenomena result in the emergence of a form? The State (society) has an ideal form, but a state is formed as an emergence of individual humans.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he State (society) has an ideal form
      No it doesn't lmao

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure the idea of form being an active cause in physical development begins with Aristotle. Not sure of the details as I haven't read Aristotle, but I know that in the Philebus Plato distinguishes between the "limiting" and "rational" forms, and the active cause.

    In any case, the only refutation needed for the theory of forms is that there's no reason to believe they exist.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In any case, the only refutation needed for the theory of forms is that there's no reason to believe they exist.
      Besides my feeling that they exist

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Preciosley, my dear Watson.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What a legitimately moronic refutation of Platonism. Just shameful. Has this hack even read Plato? It's like a scientist 'refuting' the concept of the soul by showing that its nowhere to be found in explaining the workings of the brain.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >emerges
    From where? Forms.

    >constrained energetically
    Forms.

    >to "seek"
    Forms.

    >the point
    Forms.

    >results in the emergence of a
    Form.

    >the same topological form
    Form.

    That's how. Deleuze does this same bit and points out how easy it is to slip the Forms back in (albeit he says that to AVOID doing it). The fact that Forms come from other Forms (emanation) and that the basic constituents of reality come from Forms (spacetime + fundamental particles) is how this sort of thing can interact (hence why you can theoretically have Formless "pure matter" which moves towards enformment).

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