how do we get over the fact no matter how great and sublime literature is, it still gets btfo by music

how do we get over the fact no matter how great and sublime literature is, it still gets btfo by music

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not listening to music as you read
    I swear I don't have adhd

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Outside of order baroque music and model jazz, I can't listen to music and read at the same time; too much stimulation to focus on either sufficiently.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >order baroque music
        lesser* baroque music

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you tried light ambient piano music?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >modal jazz
        You're able to read while listening to Coltrane and Dolphy playing Impressions?

  2. 2 months ago
    Hysto

    Literature may as well be the lowest form of art. Currently the most influential thinker and author is Jordan Peterson! LOL!

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    accept it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's a man.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        God I wish

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dang she is walling hard. You can tell every possible human contrivance is being employed to stop it but it is happening regardless.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the worst example of music tho, she's basically an actress or a model

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pivot to video essays opchan

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jason Bryan believes that if he can write a book that can be as deep as Robert Miles "Children" on mushrooms, he will consider himself an accomplished artist.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who was prodigiously skilled at reading & writing as a young adult but chose against the advice of my parents & all my teachers to pursue music, i feel that i'm specially equipped to answer this question. music is indeed more emotionally powerful & physiologically primal than literature, but the catch is that without a philosophical context or narrative framework of some sort, normies literally dont give a shit about it. normies dont listen to music because of its power or because of how ingeniusly its composed or produced, they listen to certain types of music because those pieces reflect their existing worldviews, remind them of where they've been, or reinforce narratives & concepts & metafictional story-patterns they've already assimilated into their understanding of reality. Music is a beast of an artform, but without a firm philosophical or literary foundation by which normie morons can comprehend it, it is powerless.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >skilled at reading and writing
      >proceeds to some verbose bs
      >Black person

      What happened to "Brevity is soul of wit"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Brevity is soul of wit
        The character who said that was an obnoxious, long-winded fricker

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Person with a talent for writing that never seriously pursued writing is mediocre at best
        This should be obvious especially when it’s why your writing is shit too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most pseud post on all of IQfy right now

        Nice rebuttals to my points, dipshit homosexuals

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >on god we bussin
          I like it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Perhaps he ain't trying to be witty, anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most pseud post on all of IQfy right now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You seem to be angry that music is an art form and not a dick measuring competition for musicians. What you're defending is equivalent of canvas shitting as "performance art".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agrre with you, but the way music is used in that way is still beautiful. Who cares if someone can't truly appreciate a group effort im creating a whole thing with sound. If music is as great and powerful as you say, it should be able to embody the opposite of what you hold dearly from it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Philosophy comes before pretty much all art.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Music can't tell a story in the same way that literature can, it has a different role.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do I have the feeling you have some shitty popular music in mind? People who say this never mean actually good music (classical).

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1) Great books tend to have greater staying power than popular music, music being the more faddish medium. Millions of people read The Great Gatsby every year, but basically no one listens to music from the 1920s, even the stuff that was extremely popular then.

    2) Literature is a more detailed medium than music, which explains why AI can (more or less) already ape popular music but it will be years before it writes a masterpiece novel. If you have a lot to say, books are the way to go, not music.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Great books tend to have greater staying power than popular music
      Why are you comparing great books to pop music? Compare pop literature to pop music or great music to great books.
      >basically no one listens to music from the 1920s
      What? Ravel's Bolero, when you add up the play counts for all the different combinations of titling the piece, has at least 50 million plays on Spotify. The most viewed performance of Bolero on Youtube has 75 million views. It's far from pop music numbers, but it's not neglectable and we're comparing it with great books anyway. I'd say the amount of people that read The Great Gatsby and listen to Bolero is closer than you make it seem.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You could make a comparison with popular books to popular music and I think the comparison would still hold. Sherlock Holmes, Jules Verne’s and Kipling’s work, for instance, compared to popular music of those decades.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've honestly never compared artistic mediums against each other like that. Why do people think like this?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If poetry counts as literature then lyrics definitely should as well.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's cope from a perspective that isn't trying to find out everything a novel can be

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literature > Film > Music

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >film
      lol
      reckon you watch A24slop and think it's high art

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, I hate GAy24. Sounds like projection to me

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No, I hate GAy24
          Alright, good. What movies did you have in mind, then?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Whatever movies I enjoy, but no A24 or capeshit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the reverse order is true

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      video game = literature + film + music
      therefore video game is better than literature, film and music

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        quantitative fallacy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's cheating. If you should judge quality of games as an art form you should judge narrative and interactive game design.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No one should be allowed to use the literature board if they believe that video games are the best art form. They are barely even art at all.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        vidya is too young of an artform as well as too unexplored to be compared to the others, but I think it does have potential
        again, it's too early

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymouṡ

          >vidya
          >young
          >potential
          This is the key. I think video games have the potential to be the best art form, but nothing yet produced is anywhere near that potential.

          People assume that unlimited innovation is possible in any medium but I don't see why that should be the case. I think the older forms have been explored pretty well. For example, music is great but it might well be that Beethoven got as far as you can go. When the 20th century tried to go further they just regressed. Atonality isn't a step forward.

          I made this picture a while back to express all this.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Postal 2 is the highest cultural achievement of mankind.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually literature > music >>> film

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        *Literature > film >>> music

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Film sucks. Glad I got out of my movie guy phase.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Film sucks
        >Movie guy phase
        Try watching something other than fricking fight club or Tarantino

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So watching French vampires commit suicide is better?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Name 10 films in which this occurs

            Pulp Fiction is one of the best movies of all time

            Watch more films

            I think films have more impact than books

            They both can have a equal impact. A good film is equal to a good book.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have only seen one French vampire film, I don't remember what it is called. My point still stands, regardless.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was 'Rape of the Vampire'

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Watch more films
            I could watch all the films and it would still be true moron, you’re so mindfricked by your pretentious babble you’ve forgotten what good films are.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pulp Fiction literally sucks, Tarantino is a hack

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >literally
            Your mind is just full of nonsense and memery, stop huffing your farts anytime.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You literally HAVE to like Tarantino even though his films are fricking overrated shlock

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Watch more films
            I could watch all the films and it would still be true moron, you’re so mindfricked by your pretentious babble you’ve forgotten what good films are.

            Pulp Fiction is one of the best movies of all time

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            Great writing

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pulp Fiction is one of the best movies of all time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think films have more impact than books

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    By doing both at once. 😀

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only thing I ever listen to while reading is white noise if people around me are particularly annoying

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >comparing apples to bowling balls
    Anons, how will ever recover from the fact that my car will never be as fast as a fighter jet? What do I dooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    >cries

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >laughs in video game
    I am everything. Jealous?

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Music is the most moving, the most impactful art. But that doesn’t mean it’s the best art. If you enjoy a mediocre pop song and listen to it because it lifts your mood, does that mean it’s more worthy than a profound philosophical novel?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >classical music too interesting
    >ambient music too shit
    what's some good reading music bros

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a lot of good smbient out there. I used to think it wasn't any good as well, but you have to search around a bit until you find the right stuff for you. There's a genre which gets lumped with ambient which some people also call "ambience" which is just the kind of sounds you might hear if you were in a certain setting, be it a jungle, a spaceport, or a library. That might be more up your alley. I got into server room ambience for a couple of nights, for getting into cyberpunk. More recently, Dune-themed ambient misic has been my sountrack for yoga, which is rather like reading in that you have to focus on the task at hand and can't be distracted by complex melodies or beats.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I get to live in a world with both literature and music? splendid.

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