How the fuck do you know when you're out of the cave? How do you even tell which way is up?

How the frick do you know when you're out of the cave? How do you even tell which way is up?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    read Schopenhauer and you will be free.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was just a thought experiment.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Okay? So what?

      read Schopenhauer and you will be free.

      Schopenhauer is too optimistic. For him, you die and that's it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are already out of the cave. Looking at direct sunlight proves this, your eyeballs, as flawed as they are, are reacting to the outside world, not shadows on a wall. You are a weak piece of flesh exposed to the elements and one day will turn to dust to be cast away by the wind, it is all as you would expect of a being randomly thrown into existence.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I sure hope so

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      THIS.

      Okay? So what?

      [...]
      Schopenhauer is too optimistic. For him, you die and that's it.

      >Okay? So what?
      Later platonists completely misunderstood the Allegory of the Cave, partially thanks to gnostics who peddled "muh secret knowledge" crap.
      The Allegory of the Cave is meant to represent an epistemology, a theory of how we know things. In Meno, Socrates tells of a slave boy who was able to do math without being educated in the subject, which turns conventional wisdom about knowing things on its head. Basic math and geometry are a priori, which to Socrates was confusing. So he decided that we must still learn a priori knowledge, we just learn them prior to our lives in the land of the forms. And upon death, we return to the land of the forms to once again be refreshed with knowledge. That's what the allegory of the cave is. The cave is life, with imperfect knowledge and ignorance through the hazy memory of the forms, and seeing the sun is seeing the forms and experiencing true perfect knowledge.

      THAT'S IT. That's what it means. It isn't about the government or the matrix or an evil God or anything like that. It's just a metaphor to help explain how we know basic things. It makes me so goddamn angry how much the entire point of the allegory is ignored in favor of its bastardization, because the bastardization has no philosophical point whatsoever.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do you know that?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because I actually read the source material. The allegory of the cave makes no sense whatsoever without the context of everything else I said.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't see the natural connection between all these things? Also its a useful idea at any rate.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just chill in the cave you homosexual. It's comfy, knowledge is pain.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just stay in the pod, bro, it's easier

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What does late stage capitalism have to do with this? Everything in your pic is still very much in-cave stuff.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    find God

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How? How do I know its God?

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look for the sun idiot, it'll be bright

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How the frick do you know when you're out of the cave?
    Probably when you can't stop laughing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idgi

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Reading Hippias Minor
    >The runner who runs slow intentionally is better (more skillful) than the runner who runs slow unintentionally?
    >Yes.
    >Then the person who does evil intentionally is better (more moral) then the person who does evil unintentionally.
    Wow, very clever.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    When you get some b***hes and no longer think you're deep for knowing about baby undergrad's first allegory.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who said its deep? But it concisely conveys a certain idea, which is literally what language is for.

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